Sasuke is Useless Now?

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Has been since Danzo fight. Kishi has irreparably done him dirty, lol.
 

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I disagree Sasuke had more fights than anyone in the series (no fillers) and took out high level ninja
 

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For all the times Sasuke shitted on Naruto when they were kids
 

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lmao, why y'all judge sasuke or naruto base on that one moment. That's like saying Goku was stronger and faster than frieza for a second when he came out of the water and went kaioken on his ass. Which ain't true. He simply caught him off guard. So naruto simply caught the ***** off guard. In the ninja's world there is no such thing as who is the strongest. It all come down to brain work and strategy(Talk-No-Jutsu ain't strategy).

If Naruto or Sasuke beat or seal kaguya, it don't mean shit!! That ***** kaguya have no fighting skills at all. So this ain't no fight. Just a game of tag.

P.S. Naruto is the strongest character! But take away his reasons to fight(be acknowledge by everyone, become hokage, protect my friends), then nearly half of the NV can whoop his ass. Rock Lee, hands down will rape naruto! Itachi and Madara are the best tacticians which allow them be solo king!! Sasuke still finding his way. Revenge was his only reason to get stronger.

But anyway, you guys need to stop that shit. In next week manga, if naruto move his foot twice and sasuke move his foot once, one of y'all gonna create a thread saying, "Naruto move his foot twice so he stronger than sasuke!" WTF stop the madness! Every character is strong in their own way.
 

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sasuke smacked her bro, she didn't jump of his susu
not to say it wasn't what happened, but if the PS hit her, wouldn't it's hand/arm be extended outwards in her direction? The position of the hands & arms looks more like it's in a position of playing D.
 
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He was the freaking decoy you tosspots! I still think Sasuke is equal to Naruto or a little stronger
 

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Don't worry OP, naruto might get a nerf after this fight, i mean the guy is OP.
 

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Yes. But if Hagoromo had given Naruto both seals, he could take Kaguya down by himself, which should be absurd.

Not really.. Hagomoro indeed could have done that. He seemed to approve the thinking of Naruto - the ability to forgive and not to let hate rule over himself and ability to make people follow him but he didn't want to ignore Indra ( or someone like him) again. There are chances that Sasuke could do it alone too if Hagomoro would have given him both the seals. That means there was a chance that Sasuke would felt left out again. He said that last time doing so resulted in Indra and Ashura's eternal rivalry and he wanted to avoid it this time around.

Hagomoro was concentrated on future beyond not just this battle.
 
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Not really.. Hagomoro indeed could have done that. Hogomroro seems to approve the thinking of Naruto - the ability to forgive and not to let hate rule over himself but he didn't want to ignore Indra ( or someone like him) again. There are chances that Sasuke could do it alone too if Hagomoro would have given him both the seals. So there was a chance that Sasuke would felt left out again.

He said that last time doing so resulted in Indra and Ashura's eternal rivalry and he wanted to avoid it this time around. He was concentrated on future too not just this battle.

lel, you know that's not true. You're just saying that to avoid arguments.
 

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Not really.. Hagomoro indeed could have done that. Hogomroro seems to approve the thinking of Naruto - the ability to forgive and not to let hate rule over himself but he didn't want to ignore Indra ( or someone like him) again. There are chances that Sasuke could do it alone too if Hagomoro would have given him both the seals. So there was a chance that Sasuke would felt left out again.

He said that last time doing so resulted in Indra and Ashura's eternal rivalry and he wanted to avoid it this time around. He was concentrated on future too not just this battle.

Yes. But the point is that neither of them should even slightly have the power to come close to defeating her alone, and yet Naruto could despite Hagoromo's personal vendetta.

We're not talking about ideals, we're discussing raw power and battle prowess.
 

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lel, you know that's not true. You're just saying that to avoid arguments.

Did it occur to you that I may not be underestimating Sasuke as much as you? :pP Sasuke has always competed with Naruto and there is really not that much difference between their power levels. Both of them had an edge over another at different points and both keep up with each other. It comes down to personality. Naruto inspires in different way.

Yes. But the point is that neither of them should even slightly have the power to come close to defeating her alone, and yet Naruto could despite Hagoromo's personal vendetta.

We're not talking about ideals, we're discussing raw power and battle prowess.

I'm not sure about that. Naruto is not close to defeating her alone. If we are referring to latest hit he was able to land on her - it was probably result of the sudden anger and attack rather than a calculated move and Kaguya was out of it a bit. Changing dimensions and opening portals seem to take a lot out of her and they needed to recharge. Plus she had just dodged an attack from Sasuke and he still seem to be in charging mode. But it was just one blow. The battle is still on.
 
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I'm not sure about that. Naruto is not close to defeating her alone. If we are referring to latest hit he was able to land on her - it was probably result of the sudden anger and attack rather than a calculated move and Kaguya was out of it a bit. Changing dimensions and opening portals seem to take a lot out of her and they needed to recharge. Plus she had just dodged an attack from Sasuke and he still seem to be in charging mode. But it was just one blow. The battle is still on.

Naruto pretty effortlessly forced Kaguya to swap dimensions just to evade his clones. She already seems low on chakra while Naruto has shown no signs of fatigue. I believe Naruto could defeat Kaguya med-high difficulty by himself.
 

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Did it occur to you that I may not be underestimating Sasuke as much as you? :pP Sasuke has always competed with Naruto and there is really not that much difference between their power levels. Both of them had an edge over another at different points and both keep up with each other. It comes down to personality.

....No not at all. There is nothing to suggest Sasuke can even defend against Kaguya, let alone manage to strike her.When was the last time Sasuke had an "edge" on Naruto? When he cut that tree branch? Or was it when he manged to slice Madara, and then proceed to do nothing since then?
Call it bashing or whatever, but Sasuke has shown nothing to prove he is a vital component of this fight. Other than having a tatau that is conveniently needed to seal Kaguya.
If Naruto and Sasuke where competing then it's not even a close game at this point. But there not, their fighting Kaguya. Or at least Naruto is, I'm not really sure what Sasuke is doing. But it certainly isn't the same thing Naruto's doing.

P.S lel What personality? It's Sasuke.
 

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1. You speak like you didn't know naruto > Le sauce
2. You sound butthurt. I think there is some cream for that.
3. Naruto is name of this manga. Not naruto and sasuke. What is Kishi doing? Get over yourself kid...seriously.
 

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Naruto pretty effortlessly forced Kaguya to swap dimensions just to evade his clones. She already seems low on chakra while Naruto has shown no signs of fatigue. I believe Naruto could defeat Kaguya med-high difficulty by himself.

Probably. Naruto hasn't been opening any portals or dimensions so he was saving his chakra on that account and his strategy is pretty effective using basic clones and diversions while making her tired. Her strategy is of someone who never had real battle in tough situations all that much. She was too powerful and usually straight hits one hit KO would have been enough - not that many opponent were left out of by her tree to begin with.

The thing is if he was alone then that reduces her use of portals too. She needs to change worlds for him alone not to dodge two of them. That would increase difficulty for Naruto too. Would he able to cope then at his current level, we would never know for sure. If he had both seals and whole chakra from the Sage then I would guess he could.
 

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1. You speak like you didn't know naruto > Le sauce
2. You sound butthurt. I think there is some cream for that.
3. Naruto is name of this manga. Not naruto and sasuke. What is Kishi doing? Get over yourself kid...seriously.

Doesn't sound like I'm the one butthurt. Might want to look in a mirror.

Probably. Naruto hasn't been opening any portals or dimensions so he was saving his chakra on that account and his strategy is pretty effective using basic clones and diversions while making her tired. Her strategy is of someone who never had real battle in tough situations all that much. She was too powerful and usually straight hits one hit KO would have been enough - not that many opponent were left out of by her tree to begin with.

The thing is if he was alone then that reduces her use of portals too. She needs to change worlds for him alone. That would increse difficulty for Naruto too. Would he able to cope then at his current level, we would never know for sure. If he had both seals and whole chakra from the Sage then I would guess he could.

The point is this debate shouldn't even be possible for either of them. They simply aren't struggling enough to make this believable imo.
 

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Doesn't sound like I'm the one butthurt. Might want to look in a mirror.

Nope I'm actually the opposite. Seeing all the naruto hate "retarded" threads and why is sasuke useless threads etc since 2am this morning(central time zone)...I'm quite amused but at the same time somewhat distraught at the fact that people really expect this manga to end with someone being equal to or stronger than the main character. It's rarely happens and never happens when the main characters name is the title of the manga.
 

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Nope I'm actually the opposite. Seeing all the naruto hate "retarded" threads and why is sasuke useless threads etc since 2am this morning(central time zone)...I'm quite amused but at the same time somewhat distraught at the fact that people really expect this manga to end with someone being equal to or stronger than the main character. It's rarely happens and never happens when the main characters name is the title of the manga.

Well the "hes the title character" argument is kind of weak. There are so many other reasons why naruto is stronger for you to use that.
 
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