~So let me try to understand this character Naruto Uzumaki~

What do you think of Naruto's mindset involving Obito?


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thought it was really sweet.

''must see underneath the underneath.'' and obitos trash speech. '' hes so cool!''
 

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Actually yes, the instance with Nagato was also stupid as he used a book to change Nagato.
That was the moment when the manga has decreased in writing quality.
Nagato killed his sensei and his master not to mention the majority of the village and left it in ruins.
If Nagato didn't resurrect everyone back to life then Naruto would have stupid back then too.
Naruto is always the only person who can ever actually “do” anything right. Some random kid pretending to be Madara tries to talk sense into Nagato? Brain washed! Nagato’s teacher tries to talk sense into his student? lol die! Naruto tries to talk sense into Nagato? Time to convert! ! Obito’s friend & his teacher try to talk sense into him? lol die! Naruto tries to talk sense into Obito? Time to convert! Hashirama tries to encourage the masses? lol, who is he anyway? Naruto tries to encourage the masses? Everyone goes for it! Tens of thousands of people die? Who cares! Naruto’s friend dies? Suddenly everyone wants to fight! Those healers and medics want to help people? Naw. Naruto can do it all! Nobody in this manga except for a scarce few have any agency of their own any longer.
 

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Those are arguable in my eyes. Sasuke's hatred, Lee's determination, Itachis loyalty and Hinata's love are all far more realistic than Naruto idolizing someone like Obito_OBITO! Like ****, do you even remember everything he's done???


Not to mention Itachi, Lee, and Hinata are side characters, so their personalities would obviously be less fleshed out
Agree with bold a lot. U_U
 

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Yes but it's not like he's being saved. Obito is dead, Naruto knew that he couldn't save him, so expressing what he thought of the real Obito in his final moments is not a terrible thing. Crimes or not, Obito would never return to the village, never see family again, never be accepted, so what Naruto said helped him become Kid Obito again and be freed.
The fact that Naruto is completely incapable of comprehending the scale of Obito's crime in the past makes him a pathetic character. I lost all the respect for Naruto after this chapter. Naruto was annoying and shameless before, now he's not only those but he lost his dignity as well. And this pathetic excuse of a character is supposed to be the protagonist of the manga?
 
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What exactly did Sasuke do that even comes close to what Obito caused Naruto.
I bet you can't even give me 3 reasons.
I wouldn't call it close, but he still saw the Sasuke he knew before even though Sasuke wanted to destroy the village. Attacked the Kage summit and... and... killed Samurai fodder and... and.. tried to kill Kakashi and... and Sakura??
Damn, the struggle was real there.
 

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The fact that Naruto is completely incapable of comprehending the scale of Obito's crime in the past makes him a pathetic character. I lost all the respect for Naruto after this chapter. Naruto was annoying and shameless before, now he's not only those but he lost his dignity as well. And this pathetic excuse of a character is supposed to be the protagonist of the manga?
Just because he forgave him doesn't mean he can't comprehend the actions. You're forgetting he's the guy who will end the cycle of hatred.
 

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Yes but it's not like he's being saved. Obito is dead, Naruto knew that he couldn't save him, so expressing what he thought of the real Obito in his final moments is not a terrible thing. Crimes or not, Obito would never return to the village, never see family again, never be accepted, so what Naruto said helped him become Kid Obito again and be freed.
Lol at bold he said that after obito was dead.

he said he was the coolest, that something that should never be said about someone like him.
 

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I'm amazed at how people fail to see the whole point of Naruto's character and what Kishimoto is trying to express. Being someone who is like Naruto, I take pride in my heart's choices and will never change and become cold and unforgiving. That continues an unending cycle of hatred and Naruto is meant to change all that.

It's a symbolic moment.

Why are you guys trying to paint Naruto as some deep complex character that Kishi is showing us his many levels?

It's not that deep at all. He's Jesus.
 

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I'm amazed at how people fail to see the whole point of Naruto's character and what Kishimoto is trying to express. Being someone who is like Naruto, I take pride in my heart's choices and will never change and become cold and unforgiving. That continues an unending cycle of hatred and Naruto is meant to change all that.
People just can't interpret the manga so when things that aren't as subtle happen everyone flips out.
 

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It's Naruto's nature. Kishimoto has the ability to cause sympathy even for the worst enemy. Naruto's respectful attitude is very admirable, but I agree with some of NBers that calling him the coolest guy is already too much...>_>
 

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I'm amazed at how people fail to see the whole point of Naruto's character and what Kishimoto is trying to express. Being someone who is like Naruto, I take pride in my heart's choices and will never change and become cold and unforgiving. That continues an unending cycle of hatred and Naruto is meant to change all that.


It's a symbolic moment.
Kindness and ability to forgive is virtue, what Naruto does is plain ignorance. Naruto refuses to look at past events, as if they never happened. Criminals get punished for their crime, that is justice. Naruto character is not only ridiculous, it's almost impossible to believe that such an ignorant person can exist. Unless of course that person is mentally unstable, which Naruto is
 
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Why are you guys trying to paint Naruto as some deep complex character that Kishi is showing us his many levels?

It's not that deep at all. He's Jesus.
I agree, I'm just surprised that you guys all flip out when you see this. It was so obvious. She didn't state he was deep what she stated was that how can he bring peace if he is just like "fvck you, Obito!". That is Danzo's method.
 

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I wouldn't call it close, but he still saw the Sasuke he knew before even though Sasuke wanted to destroy the village. Attacked the Kage summit and... and... killed Samurai fodder and... and.. tried to kill Kakashi and... and Sakura??
Damn, the struggle was real there.
More coverups and excuses just to make Obito seem innocent.

What Obito did to Naruto cannot be covered up and Naruto still respects this guy after everything he did.

This isn't even about fanboying Sasuke or being a Naruto hater. Naruto has just proven his worth that he is a bad character.
You could try to kill this guy 1000 times and he would still try to forgive you. Wow, him and Sakura have something in common I guess..
 

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I'm amazed at how people fail to see the whole point of Naruto's character and what Kishimoto is trying to express. Being someone who is like Naruto, I take pride in my heart's choices and will never change and become cold and unforgiving. That continues an unending cycle of hatred and Naruto is meant to change all that.
Unless you forgive and even idolize a man who killed your parents, your best friend's clan, attacked your home town, was responsible for the deaths of your agemates, seniors, and teachers, who started a war and killed thousands, and who helped bring about the apocalypse, don't compare yourself to Naruto
 

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Naruto is the one to end the cycle of hate, it's really that simple. The only thing making it complicated are those who misunderstand that and start bashing him for doing what he's meant to do.
.....and people don't like that.

He's a simple, bland, stale, boring, one-dimensional character and it has annoyed people.

Apparently, you're are meant to be able to relate to the main character.

It's seems many don't and find him unbearable.
 

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Kindness and ability to forgive is virtue, what Naruto does is plain ignorance. Naruto refuses to look at past events, as if they never happened. Criminals get punished for their crime, that is justice. Naruto character is not only ridiculous, it's almost impossible to believe that such an ignorant person can exist. Unless of course that person is mentally unstable, which Naruto is
If Obito had no reason for doing this and wasn't manipulated this would be understandable, that wasn't the case though. Obito himself knew he needed to be punished and sacrificed himself.
 
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More coverups and excuses just to make Obito seem innocent.

What Obito did to Naruto cannot be covered up and Naruto still respects this guy after everything he did.

This isn't even about fanboying Sasuke or being a Naruto hater. Naruto has just proven his worth that he is a bad character.
You could try to kill this guy 1000 times and he would still try to forgive you. Wow, him and Sakura have something in common I guess..
Naruto as a character is actually much worse than Sakura. I used to put Naruto on the level of Sakura, but calling Obito 'coolest guy' made him go a notch higher as a worse character
 
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