Tobirama < Every Other Kage

[Im Still Robin]

Lol You sure seem pretty full of yourself these days.

Always, what's gonna stop me?
Mangaphax? Leh....never take me serious, rule #1

 

[The Work]

Please Tobirama is OP

He created so many jutsus including FTG, Kage Bunshin, and Edo Tensei.

The arsenal would annihilate anyone in his way.

 

[Im Still Robin]

Really, Naruto being born?
May I remind you that Tobirama created Kage Bunshin and FTG, and you know where Minato and Naruto would be without those. Lol

Shadow clones are useless and we...well most of us all know Kishi threw some bs in there to make Tobirama relevant.
Quite smart too...proof, the scroll was said to be Hashirama's (the one Narudo copied out of)
Minato didn't copy Tobirama's ftg bro, entirely different seals.

This isn't real life where you follow up on historical facts or something then say what would have been without this person or thing. Nah, this manga.

Well you're obviously a uchiha fapboy. I don't listen to what people say when it's obvious they support certain characters over others

Leh, the opposite.
I only troll those who dislike them cuz its fun and funny and people get mad, like you. Don't take me seriously man.

 

[Penguin]

Shadow clones are useless and we...well most of us all know Kishi threw some bs in there to make Tobirama relevant.
Quite smart too...proof, the scroll was said to be Hashirama's (the one Narudo copied out of)
Minato didn't copy Tobirama's ftg bro, entirely different seals.

This isn't real life where you follow up on historical facts or something then say what would have been without this person or thing. Nah, this manga.



Leh, the opposite.
I only troll those who dislike them cuz its fun and funny and people get mad, like you. Don't take me seriously man.

Minato did copy Tobirama's Hiraishin. Tobirama said so in the manga. Minato copied, and made it better. Tobirama invented it, but Minato made it better. Same with how Minato made rasengan, copying the Bijuudama.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Really, Naruto being born?
May I remind you that Tobirama created Kage Bunshin and FTG, and you know where Minato and Naruto would be without those. Lol

Oh my god .

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Shadow clones are useless and we...well most of us all know Kishi threw some bs in there to make Tobirama relevant.
Quite smart too...proof, the scroll was said to be Hashirama's (the one Narudo copied out of)
Minato didn't copy Tobirama's ftg bro, entirely different seals.

This isn't real life where you follow up on historical facts or something then say what would have been without this person or thing. Nah, this manga.



Leh, the opposite.
I only troll those who dislike them cuz its fun and funny and people get mad, like you. Don't take me seriously man.

And? Just because it's in Hashirama's scroll doesn't mean that he created the technique.
Without Shadow clones, Zabuza would have raped Naruto,Kiba would have raped Naruto, Gaara would have raped Naruto, Kabuto would have raped Naruto etc.
Naruto couldn't even use Rasengan without them.
And are you implying that Minato created his own version of FTG without something to base it on?
Minato wouldn't have FTG if Tobirama didn't create it because he would have nothing to base it on.

 

[Im Still Robin]

Minato did copy Tobirama's Hiraishin. Tobirama said so in the manga. Minato copied, and made it better. Tobirama invented it, but Minato made it better. Same with how Minato made rasengan, copying the Bijuudama.

The Penguin....well I suppose.
I never really did care for Tobirama enough to fully listen to his history jutsu or w/e
I could easily get through these words, but since its you free ticket.

*Hint on what I would have solo'd with* Saying and actually being are two different things, example lightning blade and chidori. I'll leh you with that Lol.

 

[Im Still Robin]

And? Just because it's in Hashirama's scroll doesn't mean that he created the technique.
Without Shadow clones, Zabuza would have raped Naruto,Kiba would have raped Naruto, Gaara would have raped Naruto, Kabuto would have raped Naruto etc.
Naruto couldn't even use Rasengan without them.
And are you implying that Minato created his own version of FTG without something to base it on?
Minato wouldn't have FTG if Tobirama didn't create it because he would have nothing to base it on.

That makes all the difference my friend, all the difference.
Minato could create his own FTG...well it would be the same none the less, but by simply doing the slightest thing different makes it his own.

Example, having a different seal and having it better than Tobirama's. One can imply it be the same, but one can also imply that its entirely different because of that.

Minato would of had uzumaki sealing to base FTG off of...oh and who/is Kushina *troll face* how might you ask? Reversal summoning...yeah I solo like that.

xD I'm sorry, but that was rich like fresh milk.
I'm honestly just messing around, but I am right. *don't take seriously*

WHO NEXT ON MY SOLO LIST?

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

You sir remind me of Forrest Gump. You say Tobirama is worse than every other kage then only mention one that is he worse then so give us points about the others you supposedly think he is worse then or just shut the hell up

It's not his fault. That's just all he had to say about that.

Im not knocking his achievements as a ninja, im talking purely from his Hokage position. And "Merule27" shuttup queer.

You're goddamn right I have objections you Nagato loving prick

What a respectable and mature debate here .






OT: Actually, of every Kage, Tobirama has been the most productive.



1. Realized how Madara came to be who he was, and took a measure that'd prevent it, but also tried to do it in A way that'd hopefully give the clan an important role. Unfortunately, the Uchiha didn't like being given a governmental position and spear heading the Military Police.

2. Creates the Academy so that children could grow up learning the basics and ultimately preventing their early death rate in missions.

3. Creates the Chunin exams. Allowing the competition to lessen strains between villages. Lowering the total expectation of war.

4. Created the Anbu system. Granting the Narutoverse and is readers the most consistent image of real Shinobi.

5. He invented the Hiraishin, Kagebunshin, and Edo Tensei. Each of which have literally played an integral part of preventing the end of the world. Even though one was partially responsible for progressing the risk as well.

Honestly, the greatest move Hashirama made was starting the first Summit.

Minato saved Konoha. Fair nod to giving Naruto Kurama.

Hiruzen prevented Orochimaru from destroying Konoha. Fair nod to preventing Orochimaru from eating Sasuke early to a degree. The hands and all.

Tsunade...erm...put her trust in Naruto

Tobirama created the current foundation of how villages operate, allowing the Hokage after him to have a safer environment to grow stronger and all that jazz.

The Penguin....well I suppose.
I never really did care for Tobirama enough to fully listen to his history jutsu or w/e
I could easily get through these words, but since its you free ticket.

*Hint on what I would have solo'd with* Saying and actually being are two different things, example lightning blade and chidori. I'll leh you with that Lol.

You....you realize those are the same jutsu right?


Chidori IS Raikiri. It earned the nickname Raikiri when Kakashi used Chidori to cut lightning.


As for the other part. As you noted, Minato has a connection to the Uzumaki. Take Tobirama's jutsu, hand it to an Uzumaki, and let Fuinjutsu experts modify with the appropriate seals.

Honestly, there's been no one in Naruto who's invented the same technique as another person just off a whim. Hell it HAS the same name. Unlikely Minato just happened to be on the same name pace as Tobirama. Especially since he's tried naming Naruto's tech, and talked about another of his. Botho which have ludicrous namings.


Honestly Tobirama and Minato basically have tbe same functionality. Everything is the same except it. seems like Minato can simply move more with his modified seal.