Kidomaru vs Sasori

[blazekev90]

These things are coming at him from every angle. Are you saying he can spit out and set out webs traps in every direction before one scrapes him?

Also throw in Hiruko's poison needle mouth spray, a gas canister that shoots even more poison and the Third Kazekage puppet which utterly wrecks Kidomaru and there's no chance. The Third's puppet's right arm held several poisoned blades, while the left arm could open up to reveal several summoning seals that summoned thousands of similar arms to attack the target.

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These arms were capable of crushing an opponent, emitting poisonous gas clouds, and releasing wires that dragged the opponent into the gas cloud. Oh and the large-scale jutsu Iron Sand? That's mixed with poison as well so...game over.

Kidomaru's holes in his armour mean he's dying in that gas cloud even if 6 arms are miraculously to make it through 100 puppets at once.

If it was 10 meters away, sure he'd be caught, but it's 70. Do you know the how far that is? That allows considerable amount of prep time for Kidomaru before Sasori's pupppts swamp him.

Did you even read the conditions? The 3rd Kazekage was restricted. Why are you mentioning him?

As cloud of gas blown towards Kidomaru is blown away by the debris from his arrows. Similarly to how Sakura used a bomb to blow the gas away.

 

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If it was 10 meters away, sure he'd be caught, but it's 70. Do you know the how far that is? That allows considerable amount of prep time for Kidomaru before Sasori's pupppts swamp him.

It's as if....the puppets can like, go over and under the webs? Or even just around really. They're very fast and from what we've seen very articulate in their movements. What is this guy's gameplan covering himself head to toe from every angle in webs? Is he making himself a cute little prison for when Sasori gets over there and sprays him with the gan canister, needle spray?

Did you even read the conditions? The 3rd Kazekage was restricted. Why are you mentioning him?

Oh im just talking about the character in general now. I already beat Kidomaru without it.

As cloud of gas blown towards Kidomaru is blown away by the debris from his arrows. Similarly to how Sakura used a bomb to blow the gas away.

You'll have to be more specific with this one. Unless its Kidomaru's huge final one he's supposedly using first then there's not nearly enough impact to push these clouds away. Needle spray still does the job.

 

[blazekev90]

Sasori gets to be underrated here a lot.

-He can use his own chakra strings to flip away the webs if they come at them. Considering he can control about 100 puppets at a time, he can easily attach strings to that amount of webs [

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] and cut them in the mid way.

-Hiruko (people question how Sasori can bypass gold armor but how is Kidomaru bypassing Hiruko?) . This guy is no sensor thus have no way of knowing where is his core. Kidomaru needs to bypass Hiruko and his arrows are casuing pinpoint damage [

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] (so he can harm a little part of his defense if he can) & have not shown the DC comparable to Sakura's punch which can break huge boulders [

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-Kidomaru's gold armor. It have been stated to be protective against chakra [

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] so it is suspectable to any type of other attacks, physical or ninjutsu. Even if it was protective against chakra, it got worn out [

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] after Neji's strikes, which are chakra.

-Objectiles. Now these are just getting blocked by Hiruko, or getting flicked by Hiruko's tail [

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-That huge spider summon have not shown any feats of durability, firepower or speed. It was just huge, it get poisoned and diced.

Last of all, stamina. Sasori is a puppet with immortality. He can easily outlast Kidomaru.

Finally a reasonable post, i wish my labtop worked.

Regardless,
You're wrong about chakra strings and their affect of Kidomaru's web. As the web is already intact and can't be broken away unless one uses chakra force/sharpness similar to Neji. Sasori's strands would only be tangled in the mix, giving Kidomaru the advantage. The only web chakra strings could deflect are those used by his summoned spiders.

Wait...you're questioning whether Kidomaru's arrows could penetrate Hiruko?!? Have to not seen the damage it created against Neji? It's more destructive the Sasuke's arrows. The crater they created and having pierced through multiple trees and you think it'll only scratch the surface of Hiruko? That's laughable. Also, he doesn't need to know about core, but seeing as he has intel, he does.

Golden Armor is to protect against chakra, chakra having been used in every ninjutsu, also, it doesnt take away the fact that it's a metal! So, regardless Sasori's pins or poisoned covered weaponry wouldn't penetrate it.

The summoning is there to spread it's eggs. In a forest, those spiders can go undetected and cover their web as most spiders to catch its prey. It's not there to use offensively. Think about it.

Stamina is the major issue. That is what i can agree with.

 

[blazekev90]

It's as if....the puppets can like, go over and under the webs? Or even just around really. They're very fast and from what we've seen very articulate in their movements. What is this guy's gameplan covering himself head to toe from every angle in webs? Is he making himself a cute little prison for when Sasori gets over there and sprays him with the gan canister, needle spray?


Oh im just talking about the character in general now. I already beat Kidomaru without it.



You'll have to be more specific with this one. Unless its Kidomaru's huge final one he's supposedly using first then there's not nearly enough impact to push these clouds away. Needle spray still does the job.

Do i need to post images? Because you don't seem to get the visual of webs being spread in Forest of Death. As I've said repeatedly, large webs cover a great portion of the forest to prevent puppets from bypassing. For the few that do, Kidomaru has shown the ability to shot smaller webs, with the speed fast enough to counter them

Lol @ people thinking a # advantage is always a factor. Naruto has used clones of 10,000 and have been defeated by one man. It's a matrer of being able to eliminate the threat.

Have you read about spiders? You create "prison" like structures to keep their prey from escaping. Instead, here he'd being doing so from keeping his prey from entering.

Well it's irrelevant as it's restricted.

I'll post a scan once i use my tablet. I cam only do but so much on this phone
As stated, Kidomaru startes in his final CM stage. This is his first arrow shot in this form

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Look at the trees! The force of the arrow would blow cloud of gas away before it even reaches him.

 

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Finally a reasonable post, i wish my labtop worked.

No need to rush it or reply at all if it is troublesome.

Regardless,
You're wrong about chakra strings and their affect of Kidomaru's web. As the web is already intact and can't be broken away unless one uses chakra force/sharpness similar to Neji. Sasori's strands would only be tangled in the mix, giving Kidomaru the advantage. The only web chakra strings could deflect are those used by his summoned spiders.

But my point was not Sasori destroying the webs by chakra, it was just moving them away. His chakra srings can stop them on their tracks and flick them away.

Wait...you're questioning whether Kidomaru's arrows could penetrate Hiruko?!? Have to not seen the damage it created against Neji? It's more destructive the Sasuke's arrows. The crater they created and having pierced through multiple trees and you think it'll only scratch the surface of Hiruko? That's laughable. Also, he doesn't need to know about core, but seeing as he has intel, he does.

Environment gets effected much more easily than humans or defenses in NV.Kidomaru mainly hamred...trees. Not saying much for his DC as those things easily get dispached in NV standarts and some ninja have durabilty above concrete [

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] and two of those arrow shots did not kill a 14 year old who is already injured by prior attacks and worn out. Sakura's punch can destroy boulder (a lot more durable than trees), Kidomaru needs damage comparable to that which i have not seen it to occur.

The damage he applied on Neji was pinpoint, so if by some miracle Kidomaru shoots and arrow and it passes Hiruko, where does it hit? Miraclously his only alive part which is like 1% of his body? Sasori is not going down untill his heart gets killed, and intel just suggests that Kidomaru knows Sasori uses puppets and poison, not where his heart his unless you intend to change conditions.

Golden Armor is to protect against chakra, chakra having been used in every ninjutsu, also, it doesnt take away the fact that it's a metal! So, regardless Sasori's pins or poisoned covered weaponry wouldn't penetrate it.

Sasori's attacks are not elemental ninjutsu or anything. His arsenal has puppets with physical attacks, flame throwers, poisons. And as i have shown his armor got dropped down after chakra based attack, which gold armor was supposedely invulnerable to. Sasori gives him a beating and armor gets dropped eventually.

The summoning is there to spread it's eggs. In a forest, those spiders can go undetected and cover their web as most spiders to catch its prey. It's not there to use offensively. Think about it.

what can those babies do to harm him? They will get one shotted by this [

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] type of attacks.

Stamina is the major issue. That is what i can agree with.

Well yup.

 

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Basically it comes down to pure finesse & sheer skill(& stamina).

Sasori cannot be denied.

 

[blazekev90]

No need to rush it or reply at all if it is troublesome.

But my point was not Sasori destroying the webs by chakra, it was just moving them away. His chakra srings can stop them on their tracks and flick them away.


Environment gets effected much more easily than humans or defenses in NV.Kidomaru mainly hamred...trees. Not saying much for his DC as those things easily get dispached in NV standarts and some ninja have durabilty above concrete [

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] and two of those arrow shots did not kill a 14 year old who is already injured by prior attacks and worn out. Sakura's punch can destroy boulder (a lot more durable than trees), Kidomaru needs damage comparable to that which i have not seen it to occur. The damage he applied on Neji was pinpoint, so if by some miracle Kidomaru shoots and arro and it passes Hiruko, where does it hit? Miraclously his only alive part which is like 1% of his body? Sasori is not going down untill his heart gets killed, and intel just suggests that Kidomaru knows Sasori uses puppets and poison, not where his heart his.


Sasori's attacks are not elemental ninjutsu or anything. His arsenal has puppets with physical attacks, flame throwers, poisons. And as i have shown his armor got dropped down after chakra based attack, which gold armor was supposedely invulnerable to. Sasori gives him a beating and armor gets dropped eventually.


what can those babies do to harm him? They will get one shotted by this [

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] type of attacks.

Well yup.

He can't move along of the intake webs, that's the point. Also, I'm questioning whether he'd be. Able to deal with the strings used my the spiders. As seen here,

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Neji comments on how the strings began to hinder his movements. So, seeing as spiders could spread those web strands out continuously, they themselves could hinder Sasori from using his puppets accurately.

Those arrows were deflected by a 14 year old, who tracks an approach at a 50 meter radius.

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So, the damage was reduced significantly. Also, you have to understand arrows, arrows are meant to pierce, not destroy. Neji standing about 4-5 away from the ground is different than Hiruko laying flat on the ground. So, carter of this size used with his first arrow, that isn't 100% maxed

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would not arguably wreck Hiruko, but piece Sasori's core.

Sakura having destroyed it does not determine Hiruko's durability, as you've pointed out Sakura can destroy blunders. She can destroy just about anything. It wasn't stated that her punch was needed, that's the only offense they had. So you referencing that isn't helping your argument, but rather harming it claim.

I know what his attacks consist of. Also, I know he can't perform them all simultaneously. When using puppets, he'd have to switch to flamethrower.,etc. Gold Armor withstood the strongest chakra based blows in the series man. That's what their clan in known for, those weren't just any chakra blows used. Nonetheless, you haven't shown me an offensive attack that'll threaten his armor to begin with.

Those babies are used for defensives purposes. That mid ranged attack won't prevent them from covering the Forrest, giving them the enviromental advantage.