Kidomaru vs Sasori

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I KNOW Kidomaru's abilities okay :') I argue for him all the time but he also never covers his body entirely in sticky gold. There are some points the pores either can't form or he needs free to cast jutsu or fight. Sasori will end up poisoning him.
How if im correct the poison he uses comes from Hiruko and his first puppet if he dares tries to stay in that first puppet form he's killed with .
 

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How if im correct the poison he uses comes from Hiruko and his first puppet if he dares tries to stay in that first puppet form he's killed with .
All sasori weapons are coated with poison, that's why chiyo said it would dangerous if they got . She had to be referring to his poison, since she mentioned the antidote running out. Not to mention Sasori can switch/put his core into another puppet avoiding the bow shot.
 

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How if im correct the poison he uses comes from Hiruko and his first puppet if he dares tries to stay in that first puppet form he's killed with .
Agreed. You also have to remember Kidomaru's presonality is a HUGE factor on his fighting style. People say how in theory his abilities are far higher than a chunin (and they are) but the downside is the guy just is arrogant. He's smart and yet still headstrong, playing with his food and his theatrical nature allowed the Rescue Squad to survive him and allowed for Neji to pull a close win.

The trick gas canister he uses against Kankuro should be enough, not to mention the puppets all have poisoned blades no? They swarm Kimimaro and temporarily overwhelm him until he starts webbing them and getting the distance he needs to battle. I think it's there one of them will poison him, and there's not much he can do to stop it in that state.

-Might be worth your time :)

Damn, it feels so strange to debate against one of my Sound 4 boys for a change.
 

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Conditions: Orochimaru sent Kidomaru to assassinate Sasori
Orochimaru sent Kidomaru
to assassinate Sasori
We both know Oro wouldn't be that dumb. He's cocky and arrogant, but not dumb. Underestimating a crippled Hiruzen while remote controlling two previous Hokages is one thing, but this would be just dumd. Even if Kido is just a disposable pawn >_>

OT: If it comes to that, 100 puppets overwhelm Kido with much more ease than Naruto's clones overwhelmed Mizuki.
 
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Volt, you have a hard time understanding simple logic. None of those Poisonous strikes are blitzing Kidomaru before he uses gold armor. It's ridiculous to believe otherwise, after we've witnessed his use it against a fast opponent.

Numbers, you being aware of his abilities mean nothing, as you haven't grasped the concept and how he has his advantages. Btw I'm sure I've been arguing for them longer than you have.
 
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Volt, you have a hard time understanding simple logic. None of those Poisonous strikes are blitzing Kidomaru before he uses gold armor. It's ridiculous to believe otherwise, after we've witnessed his use it against a fast opponent.

Numbers, you being aware of his abilities mean nothing, as you haven't grasped the concept and how he has his advantages. Btw I'm sure I've been arguing for them longer than you have.
Eh, maybe- late 2012, but Kidomaru NEVER covers his whole body in the armour. Pores don't appear in certain areas or he needs those areas free to fight back- Sasori will have him totally surrounded with puppets.
 

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Volt, you have a hard time understanding simple logic. None of those Poisonous strikes are blitzing Kidomaru before he uses gold armor. It's ridiculous to believe otherwise, after we've witnessed his use it against a fast opponent.
Part 1 Neji in the DB was a 4, Sasori is faster at 4.5. Kidomaru was getting overwhelmed by just Neji in close combat and had to resort to his spider. 100 puppets easily overwhelm him and his spider. He isn't beating 100 puppets alone with his spider.
 

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Because Kidomaru never covers his entire body. A rape of poison bladed puppets puts an end to him.
well that might be true . But I suppose close-ranged puppet attacks can be intercepted by webs , which should limit the no. of approaching puppets so greatly that he can block all the blades
the golden armor is a counter to poison projectiles mostly
 

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well that might be true . But I suppose close-ranged puppet attacks can be intercepted by webs , which should limit the no. of approaching puppets so greatly that he can block all the blades
the golden armor is a counter to poison projectiles mostly
Definitely. But the puppets have no reason to sit and take turns to attack. The puppets come outta the scroll and can all swarm at once, Kidomaru has to spit out the web and can take a few out but all it takes is one. And the area he spits webs is the area he has the armour. Meaning a hair shot, leg scrape or his back are all open.
 

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Definitely. But the puppets have no reason to sit and take turns to attack. The puppets come outta the scroll and can all swarm at once, Kidomaru has to spit out the web and can take a few out but all it takes is one. And the area he spits webs is the area he has the armour. Meaning a hair shot, leg scrape or his back are all open.
how about his spider summoning ?

I'm not sure how fast/quickly those puppets(or sasori himself with the scrolls) can track kido and begin the assault in this forest , but perhaps he would still have enough time to set up webs all around him in the forest with his spider's help , potentially avoiding the situation you mention.

also in response to the notion that sasori can burn all his webs with flame , I believe those flames are produced with a gas-fuelled flamethrower so they cannot burn thru all that chakra webs . Amaterasu is chakra-based so it can do so.
 
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how about his spider summoning ?

I'm not sure how fast/quickly those puppets(or sasori himself with the scrolls) can track kido and begin the assault in this forest , but perhaps he would still have enough time to set up webs all around him in the forest with his spider's help , potentially avoiding the situation you mention.

also in response to the notion that sasori can burn all his webs with flame , I believe those flames are produced with a gas-fuelled flamethrower so they cannot burn thru all that chakra webs . Amaterasu is chakra-based so it can do so.
Sasori, w/ hirukos tail, blitz-1-shots the big spider then canopy jumps over the web affected area, or just throws it out of the way w/ his strings or 1,ooo hands...

the webs are connected to trees w/ are flammable, kabutos version is stronger than kidos, & we can disagree about wether real fire vs chakra fire makes a difference
 

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how about his spider summoning ?

I'm not sure how fast/quickly those puppets(or sasori himself with the scrolls) can track kido and begin the assault in this forest , but perhaps he would still have enough time to set up webs all around him in the forest with his spider's help , potentially avoiding the situation you mention.

also in response to the notion that sasori can burn all his webs with flame , I believe those flames are produced with a gas-fuelled flamethrower so they cannot burn thru all that chakra webs . Amaterasu is chakra-based so it can do so.
All the spiders do are eat, they're poisonous too from knowledge.

....but what are they going to do. Sasori does not have skin.
 

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Eh, maybe- late 2012, but Kidomaru NEVER covers his whole body in the armour. Pores don't appear in certain areas or he needs those areas free to fight back- Sasori will have him totally surrounded with puppets.
No, since day one. I've been, if not the original, Orochimaru/sound fanboy.

Sweat glands are basically distributed over the entire body, there are few places here sweat glands aren't located (ears, nails, and lips). Again, you're stating he doesn't cover his entire with NO proof. There is no reason why he wouldn't and it was never stated that he couldn't.

Again, you have yet to explain how those puppets bypass his web. While you claim to know Kidomaru, you must not know much about Sasori and his style of fighting. While controlling puppets, he can't use any other weaponry in his true form. Having to use chakra, Kidomaru's chakra enhanced webs hinder the performance of the puppets.


Part 1 Neji in the DB was a 4, Sasori is faster at 4.5. Kidomaru was getting overwhelmed by just Neji in close combat and had to resort to his spider. 100 puppets easily overwhelm him and his spider. He isn't beating 100 puppets alone with his spider.
No.

Speed in the databook includes foot speed and reaction speed. Sasori has shown NEITHER! The speed he has shown was In relation to his hand speed, which was easily predicted by Sakura after briefly analyzing his battle style. You can't compare Neji's hand speed to Sasori's hand speed. That's utterly ridiculous.

Kidomaru was never overwhelmed his Neji's close combat, something he wouldn't have to be concerned about against Sasori anyway.
 

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No, since day one. I've been, if not the original, Orochimaru/sound fanboy.

Sweat glands are basically distributed over the entire body, there are few places here sweat glands aren't located (ears, nails, and lips). Again, you're stating he doesn't cover his entire with NO proof. There is no reason why he wouldn't and it was never stated that he couldn't.

Again, you have yet to explain how those puppets bypass his web. While you claim to know Kidomaru, you must not know much about Sasori and his style of fighting. While controlling puppets, he can't use any other weaponry in his true form. Having to use chakra, Kidomaru's chakra enhanced webs hinder the performance of the puppets.
Years doesn't come into it and doesn't sound nearly as impressive as you may think it does :') I've loved Kabuto since the Forest of Death days and know everything there is to know about him and his base moveset but i've still been wrong on occasion. What matters is we've both done our research.

The puppets are many in number and very agile. Why do you think one web would get them all at once?

And yes but even if armour doesn't form everywhere he doesn't cover himself in it head to toe. He leaves some areas either open a.) because he can't cover them b.) he needs some open spots so he can move and fight back.
 
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