Why can't Rinnegan-Sasuke use Shinra Tensei and other Six Paths Technique?

[VongolaX]

Only one, because he was used as a sacrifice for Kaguya. Madara did not state he only needed one. He said if he were to use the full power, his fighting style would be more refined. Soon after, he delivered Limbo, and nothing else that could be described as "full power," as even his Limbo clone count was reduced.

So you're just going to blandly lie at the manga, just to suit your needs?

So what happened to the bijuus then?

Since he only used limbo with his one eye, what became of the bijuus?

He stated that he can use the full power (which you repeated my post), meaning he can use whatever the rinnegan has two offer even beyond the six path tech.

Do you even know what full power means?

It's full utilization of the rinnegan, he can use six paths and then some more.

Madara can use full power with one eye, but never mentioned that he needed two eyes for six path tech.

So you are just assuming he needed two eyes because it makes sense to you, because you don't understand how it works.

You further justify yourself by giving an excuse that he died prematurely for that is why he didn't use the six paths with both eyes (also an assumption).

Yet blind no rinnegan and with dual rinnegan, both the different incarnations of Madara have only shown one use of the six path tech.


I think I'm done here...

We already have scans of people learning and using six path tech. with one to no rinnegan eyes anyway.

 

[Mad Daz]

NaturalChaos you need to cut your losses man. Looking pretty stubborn atm when plenty evidence has been provided saying its POSSIBLE.

 

[VongolaX]

He did not use the phantom dragon technique. He used chains. While he may be able to use the demonic statue perfectly, that is not one of the six paths. You also don't get access to one's techniques because you have some of their chakra, so that "will" explanation is nothing.

Never stated it was phantom dragon, they're nine dragon chains which are full utilization of the rinnegan


Completely false considering that naruto got the sage's senjustu chakra and he's able to use the sage's senjustu techniques.

Juubi jinchuuriki Obito/Madara too

Also six dead bodies were injected with Madara's will, giving them six path powers

So yes it is something, it's facts

The Tsukuyomi explanation fits perfectly though. Obviously after, he wouldn't have the Rinnegan, but it was an attempt at teaching him so that in case Nagato had died, otherwise, Obito would have no use for the six path techniques.

No that is what black zetsu is for...

Madara intended to revive himself by sacrificing Nagato, it was never stated that Madara knew Nagato would die prematurely.

The tsukyomi assumption is invalid, it doesn't make a lick of sense.

Especially when Madara taught him uchiha kinjustu (which he used without the rinnegan) and yin yang release (which he created without the juubi against rikudou Madara).

The eyes' power comes from the brain. It spouts special chakra into the eyes, so having Madara's will attached does not allow him to use the techniques, as then it would make no sense for Obito to have the Rinnegan, when he could just use the will. Obito never had the power of the six paths. He only used the Rinnegan to revive Madara.

Those chakra are being transmitted into the black rods in his body

Madara stated that it will allow him to use them in chapter 606 page 15

Manga>>>>you

You can't argue...

He transplanted the rinnegan so he can manipulate all nine bijuus in the war.

You need the rinnegan to utilize the full power of Gedo mazou.

Obito wasn't suppose to get the eyes in the first place.

We know Hagoromo has access to the six paths, because Hagoromo has two Rinnegan.

Here you go again...

Manga never stated that you need both eyes to use the technique.

Either post a scan/proof or stop posting more assumptions

Madara had both eyes and he still didn't use all six, so this both eyes fan fic logic is invalid.

 

[Behemoth55]

Madara stated he can use the full power with one eye

Nope. Madara didn't refer to the Rikudō no Jutsu itself, but to the potential of the Rinnegan. But that statement is wrong anyway. You need both eyes to unleash the full power of the Rinnegan-as Obito said it. Therefore, Madaras declaration is simply irrelevant.

By given facts, Madara didn't use any path with his right eye, but Obito did with the left eye. To summon and control the Gedō Mazō, a Rinnegan isn't needed. Madara said, even if Obito wouldn't awake the Rinnegan, he would be able to handle GM.

 

[Bronze]

Madara stated he can use the full power with one eye

No. Madara was referring as to when he gets his other eye, he can use the Rinnegan's full power. Unless you're saying he was lying about that, when he said you need two eyes to use the Rinnegan's full power. [

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[salamander uchiha]

Because that'd be overkill for nardo at least this way he can still put up a reasonable fight.

 

[VongolaX]

No. Madara was referring as to when he gets his other eye, he can use the Rinnegan's full power. Unless you're saying he was lying about that, when he said you need two eyes to use the Rinnegan's full power. [

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That scan proves nothing, but the fact he had the rinnegan and not both sharingans.

Madara already used the full power/utilization with one eye....like he stated.

The second eye will make him complete, it just doubles the amount of power that he can use with one eye.

 

[Migster257]

Because plot.

 

[Frikid]

It is still too early to decide if he can use the six techniques or not.

 

[VongolaX]

Nope. Madara didn't refer to the Rikudō no Jutsu itself, but to the potential of the Rinnegan. But that statement is wrong anyway. You need both eyes to unleash the full power of the Rinnegan-as Obito said it. Therefore, Madaras declaration is simply irrelevant.

I know he wasn't referring to rikudou Justus itself, but the complete usuage of the eyes that go far beyond rikudou tech.

On top of that, you're weighing Obito's words over madara.

Madara's information and his eyes are a lot more factual than Obito.

With the second eye, his power just double.

He gets full power body and eyes...

Like Sasuke, he's at full power and has one eye.

Same can be said of Kaguya's rinnegan/sharingan

By given facts, Madara didn't use any path with his right eye, but Obito did with the left eye. To summon and control the Gedō Mazō, a Rinnegan isn't needed. Madara said, even if Obito wouldn't awake the Rinnegan, he would be able to handle GM.

You need the rinnegan to break the seal, since Obito had Hashirama's cells in him he was able to control Gedo too.

Obito summoned Gedo mazou with his left eye, and Madara like wise with his right eye.

Both Madara and Obito use absorption, and use the black rod as well.

Since Madara is the Original eye holder, he is able to use limbo.

When he got both eyes, he was able to quadruple his limbo count.

 

[VongolaX]

No he didn't. The full power would be all techniques, or the greatest technique. He obviously didn't mean the former because he didn't use one path.

That's not what he said at all

I already told you to read chapter 665-666

He used rinnegan techniques on rikudou Madara already

Yet you deliberately ignore that part again, didn't you?

Where's any of your proof any way?

No scan or chapter number?

 

[VongolaX]

It seems you don't understand the situation here. I believe that Sasuke needs two Rinnegan to use the six paths techniques. I believe that one needs to have both Rinnegan to use the six paths. You believe that with just one Rinnegan, that you can use the six paths. You use as evidence of this, that Madara absorbed Amaterasu and Hashirama's sage chakra. You also don't know whether or not that even was because of the Rinnegan. If that even was the case, it would be because Madara can use the paths without eyes. This can further be proven by how the sharingan works. Obito has never used one of the six paths, and so anything pertaining to him is rendered useless. Each side of this, as I said before, is pure speculation, because there is no definitive way to prove it. Your only merit of success here is for one's who awaken the Rinnegan. And that cannot be confirmed because Sasuke has not used one of the six paths, and we don't know how Madara absorbed the techniques.

Obito used the technique before, why do you lie so casually?

You believe you need both eyes but show no proof

 

[Behemoth55]

I know he wasn't referring to rikudou Justus itself, but the complete usuage of the eyes that go far beyond rikudou tech.

On top of that, you're weighing Obito's words over madara.

Madara's information and his eyes are a lot more factual than Obito.

With the second eye, his power just double.

He gets full power body and eyes...

Like Sasuke, he's at full power and has one eye.

Same can be said of Kaguya's rinnegan/sharingan

It would be wrong not to take Obitos words seriously since Madara proves that statement. Sasuke can't be at full power with one Rinnegan if the true power only comes with a complete pair of eyes.
Kaguyas Sharingan/whatever isn't relevant in this case, because her eye works differently. It's not exactly the same as Hagoromos Rinnegan, but I don't know why.

 

[Xāvî1]

In time he will do it!

 

[VongolaX]

When? Only thing they used was Kamui.

So your telling me the only thing Obito did to Madara is kamui?

He stabbed his stomach and just kamui?

Look at Obito's hand the entire way through.

 

[VongolaX]

It would be wrong not to take Obitos words seriously since Madara proves that statement. Sasuke can't be at full power with one Rinnegan if the true power only comes with a complete pair of eyes.
Kaguyas Sharingan/whatever isn't relevant in this case, because her eye works differently. It's not exactly the same as Hagoromos Rinnegan, but I don't know why.

What case?

Madara shown one six path technique. Like he did blind/one eye.

So having both rinnegan argument is pointless when he told white zetsu that he can preform full power with one.

Saying Kaguya is different without any explanation or proof doesn't get you anywhere.

Look at the juubi, where rinnegan originated....

Is it complete because it only has one rinnegan too?

Look, I'm not the guy who buys whatever theory/assumption without have a page# or scan agreeing with your claim.

Even if it sounds like the most illogical thing....

No one is not taking Obito's words lightly, but this is coming from a guy who doesn't know who Kaguya is yet you outweigh it more than Madara's words.

Madara with both eyes could show his true power, didn't say use of full power.

 

[ShinjuMadara]

Just like MS, Each Rinnegan is different, Madara's Rinnegan contains the same jutsus as the SO6P,Sasuke's 6 tomoed rinnegan contain advanced MS techs like flying susanoos and Amaterasu blades and teleportation. Madara and Kaguya's third Rinnegan also contain advanced techs, A direct Kamui and an extremely strong version of Tsukuyomi (IT)

Two Rinnegan Users can have the same techs, just like multiple MS can contain the same ability

 

[WalksInShadows]

It is still too early to decide if he can use the six techniques or not.

i think at this point one can safely say Hagoromo and Madara had the only ones capable of that.

 

[Behemoth55]

So having both rinnegan argument is pointless when he told white zetsu that he can preform full power with one.

That statement is absolutely redundant, because he couldn't use the full power of the Rinnegan without having both eyes.
Actually, it's illogical that someone would try to differentiate between 'full power' and 'true power'. The access to the Rikudō no Jutsu isn't the full power of the Rinnegan.


At the beginning I thought that I don't have to explain Kaguyas case though.

Kaguyas third eye-as we could see- requires the power of the 'Rinne'. The term Rinne refers to the samsara. There are three powers in Naruto which are directly related to that.

-Rikudō Senjutsu, the hermit power of the six path

-Rikudō no Sennin Chakra-Hermit chakra of the six path

-Samsara-eye- Rinnegan

That's the most significant difference between Hagoromos Rinnegan and the third eye, the red Rinnegan. Hagoromos eye power requires just his chakra-signature and that power can manifest itself in two eyes.
Kaguyas eye holds also the power of the Sharingan~Genjutsu.
As I said before, in this context you can't compare an eye -which manifest itself into a separate location(forhead) and holds independent characteristics- with Hagoromos Rinnegan.
The purple Rinnegan works completely different than the red one.

i think at this point one can safely say Hagoromo and Madara had the only ones capable of that.

Next week, if Sasuke uses Shuradō, everyone will scream.

 

[Bronze]

That scan proves nothing, but the fact he had the rinnegan and not both sharingans.

Madara already used the full power/utilization with one eye....like he stated.

The second eye will make him complete, it just doubles the amount of power that he can use with one eye.

First, Madara didn't use the full power of Rinnegan with one eye. And the scan is to prove that Madara says he needs his other eye to achieve Rinnegan's true power. Something he can't do with one eye. Second, wrong...double Rinnegan doesn't make him more complete. It allowed him to unlock the 3rd eye, which has been shown to differ from the purple Rinnegan; this is sufficient that double Rinnegan rises to even another Dojutsu. What you are spewing is nonsense.​