EMS Sasuke+ vs EMS Madara

[KidGamer65]

I wouldn't call cutting power irreverent, since cutting power broke though a lot of Hashirama's Buddha arms. Cutting power is still a good asset that makes it better than the original. rasenshuriken vs rasengan or TBBRS vs a TBB.

Yeah, its relevant. But when it explodes it isn't. Cause the blades will be eradicated too.

 

[RustledJimmies]

His Susanoo is smaller, but way stronger than Madara's.

I'm not disagreeing, but where did the first bit come from ?

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm not disagreeing, but where did the first bit come from ?

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Susanoo may have been crouching, but you can tell that if it stood up, it would not be as large as this.

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[LuckyMan]

So people are giving no PS EMS Sasuke Rinnegan PS feats? Why am I not surprised. :|

 

[DarkStar1]

So people are giving no PS EMS Sasuke Rinnegan PS feats? Why am I not surprised. :|

Because people are dopes.

Madara stomps. The chakra boost from Naruto won't compensate enough to take on Madara's PS with the feats he has.

 

[KidGamer65]

So people are giving no PS EMS Sasuke Rinnegan PS feats? Why am I not surprised. :|

Except Sasuke has PS, and no one gave him his feats post Hagoromo power up. I suggest you spend a little more time reading the posts before replying with nonsense.

Because people are dopes.

Madara stomps. The chakra boost from Naruto won't compensate enough to take on Madara's PS with the feats he has.

Based on what? Oh wait, nothing.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Sasuke wins scene 1-2 scene 3 is irrelevant.

 

[ARGUS]

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Susanoo may have been crouching, but you can tell that if it stood up, it would not be as large as this.

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No, sasukes winged PS is most likely larger than madaras
the angle where madaras PS is shown makes it appear larger,
however, here you can see

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which are much larger than the

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, and from herre we can conclude the madaras PS is infact mountain sized, if not slightly smaller..
however here, we can clearly tell that

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if not possibly even larger than madaras, seeing how its visible infront of huge meteorites

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of the earth,, and are larger than the roots of the shinju,

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, as this same location was covered

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, and from this view madaras PS is not even visible,
thereby concluding that sasukse winged PS is most likely larger than madaras,

besides Sasukes PS is amplified significantly by hagoromos power, as well as the rinnegan, and his moon power,
but the size is still most likely in sasukes favour, if we look at those scans,
which is why, size still matters in most cases when it comes to durability/offense of susanoo

 

[KidGamer65]

No, sasukes winged PS is most likely larger than madaras
the angle where madaras PS is shown makes it appear larger,

The angle is only part of it, but you can clearly tell that Madara's PS is larger. Sasuke's crouching isn't any kind of excuse.

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Are you really going to tell me that if this stood up, it'd be the size of a Mountain? I'd be surprised if it was larger than the surrounding rocks let alone a Mountain. Sasuke's PS is smaller, and its noticeable.

however, here you can see

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which are much larger than the

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, and from herre we can conclude the madaras PS is infact mountain sized, if not slightly smaller..

"well apparent?" Sasuke's Susanoo isn't even visible. Either you are looking at the wrong thing, or Susanoo is that white dot, which makes no sense since Susanoo isn't white. Either way, its not even visible, all you can see is a speck of something, so this doesn't even begin to support your point that since you can see it (Not really) its bigger than Madara's. Madara's Susanoo would be the same compared to those meteors.

however here, we can clearly tell that

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if not possibly even larger than madaras, seeing how its visible infront of huge meteorites

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of the earth,, and are larger than the roots of the shinju,

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, as this same location was covered

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, and from this view madaras PS is not even visible,
thereby concluding that sasukse winged PS is most likely larger than madaras,

Completely wrong here. Those are mere piece of the meteors he's already cut up. We already saw him compared to Madara's meteors, and he wasn't even visible. How are you coming to the conclusion that he is the same size now?

besides Sasukes PS is amplified significantly by hagoromos power, as well as the rinnegan, and his moon power,
but the size is still most likely in sasukes favour, if we look at those scans,
which is why, size still matters in most cases when it comes to durability/offense of susanoo

His Yin power is Hagoromo's power. One in the same, and the Rinnegan has never shown to amplify its strength, and how this is relevant to the overall point baffles me. It shows that a big Susanoo doesn't mean the strongest Susanoo. The fact Sasuke's is better than his is proof of that. Why its stronger is irrelevant.

It doesn't even make sense for Susanoo's durability to be based on size. Making something larger doesn't make it more durable. You can take a big pierce of paper and a small one, but they'd be the same when it came to durability.

 

[Conspirator.]

Sasuke takes the first 2, but loses the third. Madara's stamina is greater than Sasuke's, so he just needs to wait til his PS drops.

 

[ARGUS]

The angle is only part of it, but you can clearly tell that Madara's PS is larger. Sasuke's crouching isn't any kind of excuse.

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Are you really going to tell me that if this stood up, it'd be the size of a Mountain? I'd be surprised if it was larger than the surrounding rocks let alone a Mountain. Sasuke's PS is smaller, and its noticeable


"well apparent?" Sasuke's Susanoo isn't even visible. Either you are looking at the wrong thing, or Susanoo is that white dot, which makes no sense since Susanoo isn't white. Either way, its not even visible, all you can see is a speck of something, so this doesn't even begin to support your point that since you can see it (Not really) its bigger than Madara's. Madara's Susanoo would be the same compared to those meteors.





Completely wrong here. Those are mere piece of the meteors he's already cut up. We already saw him compared to Madara's meteors, and he wasn't even visible. How are you coming to the conclusion that he is the same size now?



His Yin power is Hagoromo's power. One in the same, and the Rinnegan has never shown to amplify its strength, and how this is relevant to the overall point baffles me. It shows that a big Susanoo doesn't mean the strongest Susanoo. The fact Sasuke's is better than his is proof of that. Why its stronger is irrelevant.

It doesn't even make sense for Susanoo's durability to be based on size. Making something larger doesn't make it more durable. You can take a big pierce of paper and a small one, but they'd be the same when it came to durability.

I concede,since i dont know much of sizes in the manga
however ii still think that sasukes winged PS is comparable to Madaras PS in terms of size,,
if its smaller then the gap isnt so large

 

[KidGamer65]

I concede,since i dont know much of sizes in the manga
however ii still think that sasukes winged PS is comparable to Madaras PS in terms of size,,
if its smaller then the gap isnt so large

Nah, unless you think that Susanoo standing up would tower over those rocks and Mountains. Then its not as big as Madara's.

 

[ARGUS]

Nah, unless you think that Susanoo standing up would tower over those rocks and Mountains. Then its not as big as Madara's.

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its slightly smaller

 

[Conspirator.]

Another poster on this site did some calcs with regards to size.

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Basically they find the size of the jewel madara/sasuke float in the PS, and then extrapolate it to judge the overall size proportion of the 2 susanoo's. But Madara's is clearly bigger.(but weaker than Sasuke's PS though)

 

[KidGamer65]

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its slightly smaller

How? Those are fragments of rocks that he cut up. It doesn't look huge at all.

Sasuke's would still have to tower over those rocks for us to even begin talking about it being near the size of a Mountain and being near the size of Madara's. Unless you think those rocks behind his Susanoo are Mountain sized?

TheMist's post also shows a size difference.

 

[ARGUS]

How? Those are fragments of rocks that he cut up. It doesn't look huge at all.

Sasuke's would still have to tower over those rocks for us to even begin talking about it being near the size of a Mountain and being near the size of Madara's. Unless you think those rocks behind his Susanoo are Mountain sized?

TheMist's post also shows a size difference.

Lol, i meant the panel where his PS is shown flying by the moon,
and yeah, theMists post seems to help more i guess

 

[KidGamer65]

Lol, i meant the panel where his PS is shown flying by the moon,
and yeah, theMists post seems to help more i guess

Oh, but I still don't see how it looks huge. The Moon only looks small because of how far away it is, and there is nothing else to compare it with.

 

[wael reda]

sasuke most likely wins 1-2 s
madara most likely wins the third
i dont think the cloack can strengthen sasuke’s ps ,or make it bigger,there are difference between kamui and ps ,the cloack will enable sasuke to handle ps more time but it wont power it up ,the cloack will enable sasuke to use more amounts of enton the same as kakashi with kamui
sasuke still has chance to win s3 if he can use ps on his own

 

[Varrah]

Why give Sasuke a cloak?