EMS Sasuke+ vs EMS Madara

[lanakui8]

Location: 5 kages vs madara
knowledge: full
Mindset: going for kill
Distance: 200 meters
Stipulations:
- Madara can't summon Kurama
- before the match, BSM Naruto gives sasuke

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and it lasts for the duration of the match

Scenario 2:
Sasuke only gets

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Scenario 3:
Sasuke only gets words of encouragement.

who wins?

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke wins.

The cloak he gets for this match should be stronger than

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cloak (Considering when they jumped in Naruto's avatar with the previous cloak, it changed into that), which was stronger than the previous Kurama cloak that only had Yang Kurama and Naruto's chakra, and in turn that chakra cloak was stated to be

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than a hand out from Yang Kurama that

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So his Susanoo should be comfortably above Madara's Susanoo with this boost, unless anyone thinks that Madara's Susanoo is over 6x stronger than Sasuke's Susanoo, which is plain ridiculous. In fact I personally think Sasuke's isn't too far off from Madara's. Size used to be the way everyone determined power, but then Rinnegan Sasuke showed us size is moot. His Susanoo is smaller, but way stronger than Madara's. And I haven't seen a massive gap in both of their weaker Susanoo that would cause Sasuke's PS to be so much weaker than Madara's.

And it gives him a massive boost in chakra. So he'd either break through Madara's Susanoo can kill him, or he'd wait till he can't hold it up any longer than he'd kill him.

Sasuke wins Scenario 2 for similar reasons and he loses the last scenario.

 

[V h o]

Scenario 1: Sasuke wins due to conditions
Scenario 2-3: Madara wins

 

[Sound]

Madara maybe high diff with Sasuke having the cloak.[SUB]

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[Demonic.]

A blind Madara already one shotted EMS Sasuke in one second. EMS Madara shits on all 3 scenarios chakra cloak or not. The fact is until Sasuke got his power up he was no match for Madara.

 

[Bronze]

Madara with low difficulty.

Perfect Susanoo in Madara's possession casually cut mountains. [

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] It was easily able to cut through the mountain sized arms of Shinsuusenju. And its defense survived 11 Bijuu-Dama infused with Perfect Susanoo blades, as well as taking poundings from the statue.

Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo has no feats to be on this level. Neither feats or portrayal.​

 

[Zee U]

Sasuke wins.

The cloak he gets for this match should be stronger than

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cloak (Considering when they jumped in Naruto's avatar with the previous cloak, it changed into that), which was stronger than the previous Kurama cloak that only had Yang Kurama and Naruto's chakra, and in turn that chakra cloak was stated to be

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than a hand out from Yang Kurama that

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So his Susanoo should be comfortably above Madara's Susanoo with this boost, unless anyone thinks that Madara's Susanoo is over 6x stronger than Sasuke's Susanoo, which is plain ridiculous. In fact I personally think Sasuke's isn't too far off from Madara's. Size used to be the way everyone determined power, but then Rinnegan Sasuke showed us size is moot. His Susanoo is smaller, but way stronger than Madara's. And I haven't seen a massive gap in both of their weaker Susanoo that would cause Sasuke's PS to be so much weaker than Madara's.

And it gives him a massive boost in chakra. So he'd either break through Madara's Susanoo can kill him, or he'd wait till he can't hold it up any longer than he'd kill him.

Sasuke wins Scenario 2 for similar reasons and he loses the last scenario.

Pretty much this. We already saw what a chakra cloak did to Sasuke's Susanoo: while Madara's PS failed to cut Hashi's Senpou Mokujin with multiple slashes, Sasuke's V3 cut through a multi bijuu-sized Shinju root like it was butter with a single slash. I'm also pretty sure that a BM cloak Ps is > a kyuubi cloak + cursed seal V3, so Madara's slashes won't do nothing to a chakra construct as durable (if not more) as Naruto's Senpou Kurama cloak.

In conclusion, he wins scenario 1-2 with low-mid diff, while he loses the third.

 

[V h o]

So are people saying naruto's chakra cloak is stronger than a full kurama chakra?

 

[KidGamer65]

So are people saying naruto's chakra cloak is stronger than a full kurama chakra?

1. Madara doesn't have Kurama here.

2. Madara has never gotten any chakra from Kurama. Ever.

 

[V h o]

1. Madara doesn't have Kurama here.
2. Madara has never gotten any chakra from Kurama. Ever.

Thought that was only for scenario 1...
If Kurama isn't available Madara loses scenario 1-2...

Chakra also hardly matters when he can utilize

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.

 

[Touken]

Still Madara. I don't know how people are arguing for Sasuke when his PS is practically featless.

 

[Varial]

Sasuke could just drop a Kirin on madara and finish him

 

[KidGamer65]

Thought that was only for scenario 1...
If Kurama isn't available Madara loses scenario 1-2...

Chakra also hardly matters when he can utilize

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.

Lol. Those were Bijuu Dama, and they were from Kurama, so Kurama used his chakra for that. The only things Madara used his chakra for are controlling Kurama, and Susanoo. None of Kurama's attacks take a toll on his reserves.

Still Madara. I don't know how people are arguing for Sasuke when his PS is practically featless.

Feats aren't always needed to come to a conclusion. Believing Madara's PS is over 6x times stronger than Madara's PS, is absurd. As that is the only he wins the first two scenarios.

 

[Brooks]

A blind Madara already one shotted EMS Sasuke in one second. EMS Madara shits on all 3 scenarios chakra cloak or not. The fact is until Sasuke got his power up he was no match for Madara.

Madara actually had a Rinnrgan and was using Limbo(a technique no one was able to see or sense at that time)...it's obvious he was able beat the strongest characters in the battlefield including the bijūs with that kind of advantage on his side...using that kind of logic is flawed.​

 

[V h o]

Lol. Those were Bijuu Dama, and they were from Kurama, so Kurama used his chakra for that. The only things Madara used his chakra for are controlling Kurama, and Susanoo. None of Kurama's attacks take a toll on his reserves.

I don't believe they were just TBBs, I haven't seen a TBB with blades on the side of them before like that. I wasn't really even saying anything about his chakra running out.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't believe they were just TBBs, I haven't seen a TBB with blades on the side of them before like that. I wasn't really even saying anything about his chakra running out.

Those were definitely Bijuu Dama, Madara just stuck a blade inside it.

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[Blunt]

Sasuke wins 1-2, loses at 3.

 

[V h o]

Those were definitely Bijuu Dama, Madara just stuck a blade inside it.

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Yeah but there not just TBB alone, they should be stronger-unless the blades were pointless.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yeah but there not just TBB alone, they should be stronger-unless the blades were pointless.

The blades gave it cutting power, but that is irrelevant once it explodes. Its main purpose was so Hashirama couldn't catch the Bijuu Dama, not to power it up.

 

[V h o]

The blades gave it cutting power, but that is irrelevant once it explodes. Its main purpose was so Hashirama couldn't catch the Bijuu Dama, not to power it up.

I wouldn't call cutting power irreverent, since cutting power broke though a lot of Hashirama's Buddha arms. Cutting power is still a good asset that makes it better than the original. rasenshuriken vs rasengan or TBBRS vs a TBB.