[Discussion] An end to the FTG vs Sasuke Rikudo tech debate

valandil988

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I propose a simple scenario:

Both Sasuke and Minato are presented with a large scale Bijudama approaching at top speed.

They cannot dodge as if they do the alliance will be destroyed.

They are also for the premise of the scenario limited to their respective space-time techniques. So that means no Susanoo for Sasuke as this is a scenario to purely analyze their techniques.

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Minato absorbs the Bijudama with a space-time barrier and redirects the attack to a FTG kunai miles away. The Bijudama detonates far from human habitation and results in no to few casualties.


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Sasuke throws a Kunai up over the alliance and swaps the Bijudama with the kunai. The Bijudama misses the majority of the alliance but still causes causalities to be suffered as the attack detonated too close to the alliance.

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I have tried to be as objective as possible while comparing these two techniques. Both are powerful yes but in comparison FTG's sheer command of the battlefield it far outstrips Sasuke's own technique. Minato can be on one side of the battlefield one moment, miles away, the next he can be shoring up defenses on a collapsing flank, as long as he is informed.

Sasuke's technique is severely limited with regards to long range possibilities requiring him to make multiple jumps where as Minato could make one single instantaneous jump.

Overall Sasuke's technique is useful but in all honesty its not anything we haven't seen the FTG do when used by Tobirama and Minato, true they used a combination FTG jutsu but the fact stands that with a little preparation I don't doubt they could replicate the technique's effects.

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EDIT:

New Scenario:

Lets take Sasuke vs Madara and Minato vs Madara.

Both use instantaneous space time techniques. Sasuke can't arrive before he left remember so you can't be "faster" than FTG. Its one speed :p.

In all honesty I don't think Kishi was terribly fair to Minato when Madara just curb-stomped him. Especially when Sasuke suddenly returns with a Space time tech and can suddenly start cutting up Madara. Its an inconsistency. Sasuke can't be "faster" its one speed: instant 0 seconds.

But with regards to close range combat possibilities Sasuke's technique wins out, FTG becomes more predictable at close range. If an opponent makes no mistakes they can account for where the FTG user might appear, as long as they have a good understanding of the jutsu being used against them. Sasuke's technique doesn't really have a weakness at close range, he can swap with anything, dust in the air, and randomly falling rock, maybe even air itself. In essance there are no tells in his technique to give away where a user might appear next. Coupled with the sharingan it makes him superiour to Minato in close range combat with regards to space-time ninjutsu.

But the fact remains against someone with a technique like that you spam Bijudama at him until he is dead :p.
 
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Lel, he swaps himself with TBB he dies along with the people near him. And most importantly he can't swap techniques with himself. TBB is a technique. Until he shows such a feat he cannot even come close to FTG S/T barrier[SUB]
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both have there advantages and disadvantages i personally prefer FTG aswell but there are certain things where sasukes tech is handier
 
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One scenario isn't going to prove which is better. Itnwill take more than one scenario to analyze both their weaknesses and their strength. And since this scenario was in favor of the ftg , you should add one that would benefitnSasuke's eye techinique as well. I myself believe that the ftg is better.
 

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This debate won't end. Its just like naruto vs sasuke threads

OT: I believe both have their pros and cons. It is difficult to say which is better than the other
 

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I completely agree with you...this debate is pointless...FTG practically has no limit to his range while Sasukes rinnegan tech has a limit...
 

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Sasuke can swap minato in front of him


Aaaaand chidori ggggggg
 

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You give such a big advantage to FTG with a kunai that's miles away? They need to be evenly put against each other. Both have their advantages and disadvantages. FTG takes a lot more prep time.
 

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Sasuke can swap minato in front of him


Aaaaand chidori ggggggg

whiles minato then immediately ftg away before being caught.. the point is both have their pro's and cons but we need to get more info on sasukes before even make a comparison
 

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whiles minato then immediately ftg away before being caught.. the point is both have their pro's and cons but we need to get more info on sasukes before even make a comparison

Faill madara could kick minato and cut his a before he even realised what happend. The fodder was even in SM , sasuke cuts minato.

Edit: im not tryina make this minato v sasuke. Bur sasuke uses no seal
Can teleport anywhere within range and was ovviously faster. The only disadvantage is range!
 

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Lets wait alittle bit longer before we commpare them
 

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Added new scenario, hope that helps people understand the strengths and weaknesses of both techniques.
 

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Faill madara could kick minato and cut his a before he even realised what happend. The fodder was even in SM , sasuke cuts minato.

Edit: im not tryina make this minato v sasuke. Bur sasuke uses no seal
Can teleport anywhere within range and was ovviously faster. The only disadvantage is range!

thats fine and everything obviously sasukes attack speed is fast after the six paths power up but this isnt about the individual.. its about both of their techs.. going on the technique alone ide much prefer minato's the potential is endless.. sasukes is limited to as u said close range..

forgetting minato and sasukes physical abilities its obvious which one is better in that respect since one has a sh*t load of power ups

but going on pure technique..
 

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thats fine and everything obviously sasukes attack speed is fast after the six paths power up but this isnt about the individual.. its about both of their techs.. going on the technique alone ide much prefer minato's the potential is endless.. sasukes is limited to as u said close range..

forgetting minato and sasukes physical abilities its obvious which one is better in that respect since one has a sh*t load of power ups

but going on pure technique..

Added a new scenario. Kinda shows where the strengths of both techniques lie.

FTG = King of all utility techniques. It can do everything Sasuke's technique does but has more tells.

Sasuke Rikudo Technique = King of all Space time combat techniques. But limited defense to large scale attacks.
 

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thats fine and everything obviously sasukes attack speed is fast after the six paths power up but this isnt about the individual.. its about both of their techs.. going on the technique alone ide much prefer minato's the potential is endless.. sasukes is limited to as u said close range..

forgetting minato and sasukes physical abilities its obvious which one is better in that respect since one has a sh*t load of power ups

but going on pure technique..

Fantastix story .
 

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and whos to say Sasuke cant master his technique and increase the range until its limitless :hint:
 

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in the case of dealing with bijuu dama-like techs, FTG is vastly superior to Sasuke's jutsu. Sasuke cannot switch or shift jutsu until such a thing ever happens in canon.
and whos to say Sasuke cant master his technique and increase the range until its limitless :hint:
the manga ending before that ever happens :yeah:
 
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