Rinnegan Sasuke Vs. Obito

Who shall win?

  • Rinnegan Sasuke

    Votes: 14 51.9%
  • Double Mangekyou Obito

    Votes: 13 48.1%

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Obito dual Kamui has been shown faster than Sasuke reaction time. Sasuke couldn't even react to Kaguya space opening and grabbing him in. Take this into consideration as well Sasuke has already seen the tech and still was caught. With that being said Obito who warped 3people into Kaguya dimension in the time it took her to get in there only his first time seeing it and he was at a large distance.

Plus he can stay intangible and snipe.
 

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That's exactly what I said moron. Lmao. Maybe you should read before posting.

Uh, no, it doesn't. Kaguya's teleportation depends on how fast she enters the portal. Once she is inside the portal she is instantly transported to her location.

You have no evidence. On the other hand, INSTANT>NON INSTANT in speed. Sasuke instantaneously teleports, so he evades Kamui, which isn't instant. Its as simple as that. The bold isn't instant. I suggest you read the manga. If it was instant, the moment he used Kamui the clone would have been gone, but it wasn't. The Rasengan started to deform and then it was warped away. Kamui is just fast, not instant.

Sasuke evades all Kamui attempts with his Rinnegan and then blitzes Obito and chops him in half.

no ,kamui can be faster than kaguya’s teleportation ,kakashi was able to warp gedo’s arm which is about human’s size x100 before it disappeared to appear in front of madara although madara summoned it before kakashi used kamui
and about rasingan’s deforming,kakashi first used kamui on the rasingan as a mistraction then he warped the clone itself so obito thought that kakashi was intening to warp the rasingan to hit him in the other dimension but he failed ,there were no deforming signs on the clone, it was warped instantly
obito also appears in the other dimension the moment he didapears from another dimension ,the same as kaguya
that is my opinion
sasuke should be able to notice kaguya’s opening the portal yet he wasnt able to react to use his ability ,so how can you assume that he can avoid long range kamui which he wont see it or notice ,once obito will look at sasuke,sasuke will be in the other dimension or his head
what kaguya did and sasuke wasnt able to deal with it ,is similar to obito’s teleporting behond his enemy then using short range kamui to warp him ,but long range kamui is another story
 

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Obito dual Kamui has been shown faster than Sasuke reaction time. Sasuke couldn't even react to Kaguya space opening and grabbing him in. Take this into consideration as well Sasuke has already seen the tech and still was caught. With that being said Obito who warped 3people into Kaguya dimension in the time it took her to get in there only his first time seeing it and he was at a large distance.

Plus he can stay intangible and snipe.

Uh, no. Obito got blitzed by Minato's Hiraishin attack, and Sasuke's movement speed and reactions far surpass his, meaning he'll blitz Obito too. Getting another eye ball isn't going to change that. Not to mention your example makes zero sense. Sasuke got caught by Kaguya unexpectedly sticking just her hand into a portal behind him and pulling him inside. Obito got in after Kaguya opened the portal and entered it completely, not just her hand. How you are comparing these situations baffles me.

Once again. Obito got blitzed by Hiraishin. Sasuke's Rinnegan S/T Jutsu that requires no seals allows Sasuke to blitz Obito and chop him in half. Very low difficulty.

1. He needs to be in this dimension to interact with it. If he's intangible (In the other dimension) he isn't sniping anything from this dimension.

2. He can only remain intangible for 5 minutes, so even if he could do the above, after 5 minutes Sasuke would stomp him into the ground, while easily evading all of his Kamui attempts with instantaneous teleportation.

This Double MS Obito wank needs to end.



no ,kamui can be faster than kaguya’s teleportation ,kakashi was able to warp gedo’s arm which is about human’s size x100 before it disappeared to appear in front of madara although madara summoned it before kakashi used kamui
and about rasingan’s deforming,kakashi first used kamui on the rasingan as a mistraction then he warped the clone itself so obito thought that kakashi was intening to warp the rasingan to hit him in the other dimension but he failed ,there were no deforming signs on the clone, it was warped instantly
obito also appears in the other dimension the moment he didapears from another dimension ,the same as kaguya
that is my opinion
sasuke should be able to notice kaguya’s opening the portal yet he wasnt able to react to use his ability ,so how can you assume that he can avoid long range kamui which he wont see it or notice ,once obito will look at sasuke,sasuke will be in the other dimension or his head
what kaguya did and sasuke wasnt able to deal with it ,is similar to obito’s teleporting behond his enemy then using short range kamui to warp him ,but long range kamui is another story

Uh, no. Its more like the Gedo was summoned Mid Kamui. So no, Kamui is not instantaneous, just extremely fast. Bold is false. Only ONE Kamui was used, not two. Again, Kamui is not instant. Fact. Meaning Sasuke's instant teleportation evades it.
 

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Uh, no. Obito got blitzed by Minato's Hiraishin attack, and Sasuke's movement speed and reactions far surpass his, meaning he'll blitz Obito too. Getting another eye ball isn't going to change that. Not to mention your example makes zero sense. Sasuke got caught by Kaguya unexpectedly sticking just her hand into a portal behind him and pulling him inside. Obito got in after Kaguya opened the portal and entered it completely, not just her hand. How you are comparing these situations baffles me.

Once again. Obito got blitzed by Hiraishin. Sasuke's Rinnegan S/T Jutsu that requires no seals allows Sasuke to blitz Obito and chop him in half. Very low difficulty.

1. He needs to be in this dimension to interact with it. If he's intangible (In the other dimension) he isn't sniping anything from this dimension.

2. He can only remain intangible for 5 minutes, so even if he could do the above, after 5 minutes Sasuke would stomp him into the ground, while easily evading all of his Kamui attempts with instantaneous teleportation.

This Double MS Obito wank needs to end.





Uh, no. Its more like the Gedo was summoned Mid Kamui. So no, Kamui is not instantaneous, just extremely fast. Bold is false. Only ONE Kamui was used, not two. Again, Kamui is not instant. Fact. Meaning Sasuke's instant teleportation evades it.
Damn you still talking about Obito when he was what 13? He about 31 now if you don't think he got any better reaction/speed time your a damn fool. Obito can snipe while being intangible so him getting hit is pure fallacy as you say. He's not blitzing Obito when Obito won't be tangible. I was saying his reaction time isn't great enough to stop kamui. His base speed is inconsistent since he couldn't even run to a dimension that was about 20ft away if that.

Kaguya entire body came out of her little space warping the first time she did it and Sasuke didn't even react to it.

Mind you and still didn't dodge this. Also she didn't even do this remotely fast she did it as if she didn't even care at all and

Let's say Obito can't snipe while being intangible which i already explained and but lets say he couldn't Obito warps himself to the Kamui dimension then opens up a portal to the real world like in the time it takes where Obito is he's sniped.

If Kaguya and BZ didn't realize Kamui happend what makes you think Sasuke could?
 

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Normal Obito having a chance against a God tier character?....lol, the Kamui wank has no limits.​

Time to put the "Kamui wank" to sleep.​

Counter to Defensive Kamui

Obito's offensive Kamui is completely useless against Susanoo...if Obito tries to wrap Sasuke...he simply grabs him with Susanoo hand seeing as how Obito has to become tangible into touching his opponent in order to wrap them...Obito has two choices...either let go of Sasuke and slip away or get caught and be juiced by Susanoo hand.​

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Counter to Offensive Kamui

Counter? How about i give you two counters.....maybe that would be much better?

Susanoo

In order to wrap something as big Sasuke's Susanoo....Kakashi must have an access to Naruto's Kyuubi Chakra as stated in the manga, which is how he was able to warp the Hachibi(who's the same size as Naruto Kurama Avatar) and Sasuke's V3 Susanoo is the size as Naruto Kurama Avatar....meaning, Kakashi's Kamui can be counter through the usage of Susanoo for Sasuke.

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And what's Kakashi best feat with Kamui without Kurama's Chakra? Warping the Gedo Mazo's arm(whose whole body is the same size as the Hachibi....who by the way Kakashi couldn't warp without Kurama's Chakra)​

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Hawk

Through the usage of his Hawk....Sasuke can get out of range and as stated...in order to use Kamui accurately, Kakashi must be very close as stated in the last chapter.​

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Of course, this feats can be done by Pre Rinnegan Sasuke.

Sasuke runs over Obito.​
 
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Normal Obito having a chance against a God tier character?....lol, the Kamui wank has no limits.​

Time to put the "Kamui wank" to sleep.​

Counter to Defensive Kamui


Counter to Offensive Kamui


Of course, this feats can be done by Pre Rinnegan Sasuke.

Sasuke runs over Obito.​
90% of this argument is out-dated. Obito already used Kamui at a than that of what you shown of Kakashi. It's obvious that his standing Susanoo was buffed by Kurama chakra. Or do you really think it's that much bigger than

Please the Gedo Mazo was clearly on it's when it was next to Hachibi. .

Warping the Gedo Mazo arm is a pretty good feat considering it's the Size of Ps. Not to mention Kamui is faster when there together plus he can snipe while being intangible. Obito cannonly can space walk since he can open warps in reality similar to what Kaguya is doing so what would stop him from reacting what Kaguya did to Sasuke?
 

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Sasuke hands down.
 

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90% of this argument is out-dated. Obito already used Kamui at a than that of what you shown of Kakashi.

That was my mistake.​

It's obvious that his standing Susanoo was buffed by Kurama chakra.

Implying Kurama's Chakra now improves the evolution of a technique.

The Kyuubi Chakra was said to make a technique at least 3 times stronger(which has nothing to do with Susanoo grown a lower body).​

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Or do you really think it's that much bigger than

Yes, given the size of Kurama's avatar dwarfed Madara's Complete Susanoo, while Sasuke's Complete Susanoo was shown to be the same size.​

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Please the Gedo Mazo was clearly on it's when it was next to Hachibi.

Clearly on it's knees? And what evidence do you have support this claim?

Defined "huge"? You must think it's impressive since the GM is standing next to humans and the scan is been shown in the upper down?​

Warping the Gedo Mazo arm is a pretty good feat considering it's the Size of Ps. Not to mention Kamui is faster when there together

It's good feat but it isn't enough.​

plus he can snipe while being intangible.

So, we're assuming things now?​

Obito cannonly can space walk since he can open warps in reality similar to what Kaguya is doing

First, he needs to get in Kaguya's dimension to actually any of those things.

Second, while in the dimension and with Sakura giving him all of her chakra....he still was in incredible pain to go throw all those dimensions.​

so what would stop him from reacting what Kaguya did to Sasuke?

Maybe because Obito is far slower than Kaguya?

I have no idea how comparing Obito to Kaguya helps your case.​
 
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Damn you still talking about Obito when he was what 13? He about 31 now if you don't think he got any better reaction/speed time your a damn fool. Obito can snipe while being intangible so him getting hit is pure fallacy as you say. He's not blitzing Obito when Obito won't be tangible. I was saying his reaction time isn't great enough to stop kamui. His base speed is inconsistent since he couldn't even run to a dimension that was about 20ft away if that.


Damn...you still making excuses? When you can show me the difference then we can talk. Until then, I suggest you stop making excuses with no proof backing them. The battle starts with a distance of 15m. Sasuke blitzes Obito and chops him in half right from the get go. When he can react to Minato, then we can talk about him reacting to Sasuke.

@bold: Based on? Sasuke is the same speed tier as Juubi Jins. Evading Kamui's warp with an instantaneous jutsu is easy.

No one ever mentioned his base speed. I said his Rinnegan S/T lets him evade Kamui, easily and effortlessly.

Kaguya entire body came out of her little space warping the first time she did it and Sasuke didn't even react to it.
Cause it was unexpected. Naruto didn't react that time either, yet he evaded Kaguya the second time.

Mind you and still didn't dodge this. Also she didn't even do this remotely fast she did it as if she didn't even care at all and
Cause he didn't expect her to do such. Last time she used her dimensional ability to get their backs, she went in the portal herself. This time she only stuck her hand in there. Not to mention this doesn't mean Sasuke can't evade Kamui. Gedo Mazo was summoned to Madara during Kamui's warp. Summoning is instantaneous. Sasuke evades it, and doesn't lose any limbs.

Let's say Obito can't snipe while being intangible which i already explained and but lets say he couldn't Obito warps himself to the Kamui dimension then opens up a portal to the real world like in the time it takes where Obito is he's sniped.
Someone changed my mind. Simple as that. I've already given my explanation as to why he isn't sniping while intangible, so if you have no counter I guess you conceded that point. Lol, what? He was only able to do that because the dimension they were in was connected with the dimension Sasuke was trapped in. Kamuiland isn't connected with the real world, so he isn't pulling this trick off.

Not to mention he can see him through the obvious opening of the obvious portal as the manga shows. Rinnegan lets him evade any snipe.

If Kaguya and BZ didn't realize Kamui happend what makes you think Sasuke could?

The same Kaguya and BZ who were focused on Naruto? Lmao. Stop.
 

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That was my mistake.​



Implying Kurama's Chakra now improves the evolution of a technique.

The Kyuubi Chakra was said to make a technique at least 3 times stronger(which has nothing to do with Susanoo grown a lower body).​

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Yes, given the size of Kurama's avatar dwarfed Madara's Complete Susanoo, while Sasuke's Complete Susanoo was shown to be the same size.​

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Clearly on it's knees? And what evidence do you have support this claim?

Defined "huge"? You must think it's impressive since the GM is standing next to humans and the scan is been shown in the upper down?​



It's good feat but it isn't enough.​



So, we're assuming things now?​



First, he needs to get in Kaguya's dimension to actually any of those things.

Second, while in the dimension and with Sakura giving him all of her chakra....he still was in incredible pain to go throw all those dimensions.​



Maybe because Obito is far slower than Kaguya?

I have no idea how comparing Obito to Kaguya helps your case.​

Damn...you still making excuses? When you can show me the difference then we can talk. Until then, I suggest you stop making excuses with no proof backing them. The battle starts with a distance of 15m. Sasuke blitzes Obito and chops him in half right from the get go. When he can react to Minato, then we can talk about him reacting to Sasuke.

@bold: Based on? Sasuke is the same speed tier as Juubi Jins. Evading Kamui's warp with an instantaneous jutsu is easy.

No one ever mentioned his base speed. I said his Rinnegan S/T lets him evade Kamui, easily and effortlessly.


Cause it was unexpected. Naruto didn't react that time either, yet he evaded Kaguya the second time.


Cause he didn't expect her to do such. Last time she used her dimensional ability to get their backs, she went in the portal herself. This time she only stuck her hand in there. Not to mention this doesn't mean Sasuke can't evade Kamui. Gedo Mazo was summoned to Madara during Kamui's warp. Summoning is instantaneous. Sasuke evades it, and doesn't lose any limbs.


Someone changed my mind. Simple as that. I've already given my explanation as to why he isn't sniping while intangible, so if you have no counter I guess you conceded that point. Lol, what? He was only able to do that because the dimension they were in was connected with the dimension Sasuke was trapped in. Kamuiland isn't connected with the real world, so he isn't pulling this trick off.

Not to mention he can see him through the obvious opening of the obvious portal as the manga shows. Rinnegan lets him evade any snipe.



The same Kaguya and BZ who were focused on Naruto? Lmao. Stop.
Ok i agree Obito loses.
 

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Obito isn't reacting to Sasuke's teleportation jutsu, he already failed to do so against Minato, long range Kamui isn't changing anything here.

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Lol ya okay, you keep believing that...



Inb4 Variaboss.

It's okay, my facts are facts:

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No, you're all wrong. Using information gathered from Lord Variaboss himself, Obito's Kamui has the ability to Kamui the universe and, in the process, destroy Sasuke. Obito is a universe-buster and Sasuke has no counter to that. Jimmies will be rustled.

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Well?

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It's only natural that a simple minded tool like you would actually post that I use kamui as a retort.
 
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It's only natural that a simple minded tool like you would actually post that I use kamui as a retort.

Someone is an obito wanker. You would obviously want to be his new rin.
 

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sasuke meaning to do it, slices obito in half
 

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First, he needs to get in Kaguya's dimension to actually any of those things.

Second, while in the dimension and with Sakura giving him all of her chakra....he still was in incredible pain to go throw all those dimensions.​


Maybe because Obito is far slower than Kaguya?

I have no idea how comparing Obito to Kaguya helps your case.​

obito can easily go to the other dimension then he’ll open a portal to the real dimension (like he did in the last chapter)behind sasuke then grab him to the other dimension like kaguya did or cut his neek off

obito needed sakura chakra because he was going to teleport and open a portal to another dimension that isnt his own dimension ,he himself said that ,go and read manga well or you can only read manga well when it is related to you favourite character

sasuke isnt going to evade long range kamui ,it is so clear that long rang kamui is faster and more unnoticable attack thankaguya’s attack on sasuke that he couldnt react to ,after seeing it once before
kaguya’s attack takes about three panels while long kamui didnt take any panels on bm naruto clone and gedo’s arm ,it needs only a look at your enemy

you are the one who assume that long range kamui cant be used if you are intangible,it doesnt need any physical body niether nor touching your enemy ,it only needs to look at them ,the same like casting genjutsu or following chakra

again,obito can go to the other dimension in the start of the fight so all sasuke’s attacks will be useless ,then he opens a portal behind sasuke to grab him or cut his neck off
 
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