Characters without OP KKG or Power ups.

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Not to be rude, but to merely debate, I would personally remove the "OP Jutsu" because most of the characters worked hard to achieve their jutsu and oftentimes the OP jutsu has a hazardous effect "i.e Eight Gates". Having a KKG or a "Power-up" would be fine though, agreed that all too often people are overlooked because of that.

If we were to leave in OP jutsu, I'd put Minato on the top of the list, along with Tobirama. Minato didn't have Kyuubi until after he died, and Tobirama is a Senju, but at the same time what makes him powerful are his other techniques.

But I agree, Zabuza is strong.

Darui should be on there too, only because storm release isn't really OP'ed. I mean Madara used it against Naruto but with Sage Chakra added to it. Darui's use of it hasn't really done much, but he's actually fairly talented.

If how he looks and acts is an indicator, I'd say he's the Clouds Version of Kakashi.

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No special OP jutsu. One touch from Fuu, ur bascially dead. And mind body switch is pretty op too.

Mind Transfer OP, really? I always thought it was one of the most inconvenient jutsu in NV, and not fit for a 1v1 fight at all. And well, Torune's nanobugs may be lethal but fairly easy to avoid (he turns too obviously purple) for any high-level ninja.

If I mention Cee (whom I forgot for a moment there), will you say that his genjutsu is OP/special, too?
 

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Tobirama has neither kgg jutsu or power ups. But i did say he used to be on this list. All the haters doubted him.

No..lol
No OP KKG, JUTSU OR POWER UPS.
Tobirama has OP jutsu like Edo Tensei, FTG
 

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WTH? can some of you not read? I said NO OP KKG, JUTSU OR POWER UPS! and here you are listing Gai, Rock lee, TOBIRAMA, KISAME, HIDAN, KAKUZU...come on people. Use those brains.

Wtf? How would anyone know what you consider a OP jutsu.
 

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OP is something that chances of it successfully hitting are HIGH. Yea, 8 gates is God level, but 7 gates is pretty far up there in power too. Not many can withstand 7 gates, 6 gates is OP, the high level gates have bizarre power and speed. FTG speaks for itself, just because they worked to learn those jutsu dosent mean it isnt OP.

Yes but they trained really hard to earn those OP things, it is not like they were handed to them. That would be like saying if Kakashi were to pull out an extremely OP justu (no sharingan Kakashi mind you) then he would be removed from this list.
 

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Mind Transfer OP, really? I always thought it was one of the most inconvenient jutsu in NV, and not fit for a 1v1 fight at all. And well, Torune's nanobugs may be lethal but fairly easy to avoid (he turns too obviously purple) for any high-level ninja.

If I mention Cee (whom I forgot for a moment there), will you say that his genjutsu is OP/special, too?

Torune can use traps like he did against Aoi, gg. Or simply use a clone, and use it from elsewhere. GG.
Torune is a close combat fighter, so he most likely will land a hit, one touch gg. You may kno what the tech is, buts is all a matter of avoiding it.

None above in the list I made have OP techs that would be hard to avoid.
Cee genjutsu I wouldnt say is OP just because you can break out of genjutsu yourself. He has no tsukoyomi, or izanagi, or anything like that, so Genjutsu is fairgame.
 
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Not to be rude, but to merely debate, I would personally remove the "OP Jutsu" because most of the characters worked hard to achieve their jutsu and oftentimes the OP jutsu has a hazardous effect "i.e Eight Gates". Having a KKG or a "Power-up" would be fine though, agreed that all too often people are overlooked because of that.

If we were to leave in OP jutsu, I'd put Minato on the top of the list, along with Tobirama. Minato didn't have Kyuubi until after he died, and Tobirama is a Senju, but at the same time what makes him powerful are his other techniques.

But I agree, Zabuza is strong.

Darui should be on there too, only because storm release isn't really OP'ed. I mean Madara used it against Naruto but with Sage Chakra added to it. Darui's use of it hasn't really done much, but he's actually fairly talented.

If how he looks and acts is an indicator, I'd say he's the Clouds Version of Kakashi.

I agree with this. Darui is far underrated. Being the Rakages right hand man should tell you he is up there. Remeber before all these hax ass pull and upgrade Raikage was top 10 material.
 

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Yes but they trained really hard to earn those OP things, it is not like they were handed to them. That would be like saying if Kakashi were to pull out an extremely OP justu (no sharingan Kakashi mind you) then he would be removed from this list.
The fact whether or not they worked for it dosent change the fact that of that jutsu being OP. Gai worked for the inner gates, 8th gate speaks for itself, but 7th gate is just as OP, not many ninja in the series can hold a candle to 8 gates. Minato worked to learn FTG, which is an OP jutsu. I did say NO OP KKG, JUTSU, or power ups. The jutsu could either be handed down, or worked for, it dosent matter if at the end the result is OPness.
 

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Tsunade,Sakura,Hiruzen,Jiraiya & Sai.
 
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No..lol
No OP KKG, JUTSU OR POWER UPS.
Tobirama has OP jutsu like Edo Tensei, FTG

ok dude, please reread. I said used to be. Also learn to use your grammer. The post I replied to said OP KGG Jutsu which means only OP kgg jutsu not Op jutsu
 

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Torune can use traps like he did against Aoi, gg. Or simply use a clone, and use it from elsewhere. GG.
Torune is a close combat fighter, so he most likely will land a hit, one touch gg. You may kno what the tech is, buts is all a matter of avoiding it.

None above have OP techs that would be hard to avoid.
Cee genjutsu I wouldnt say is OP just because you can break out of genjutsu yourself. He has no tsukoyomi, or izanagi, or anything like that, so Genjutsu is fairgame.

Yeah, well, Zabuza would still beat them easily. Yamanakas are pretty worthless in 1v1 unless they have Mind Destruction (which Fu apparently doesn't have), but it's fine since they are not fighting types to begin with. I don't see Fu using that trap thing quickly in combat (also, it's Ao, not Aoi. Aoi is a filler dude).

Now I'm pretty confused about what you mean. Some characters would be weak in combat since they are mostly support-oriented, yet they could obviously do good in other areas of ninja-ing like intel gathering and spying. Those characters are usually dismissed as weak and fodder.
 

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Byakugo is OP. Unless you remove her head, Tsunade and Sakura arent dying in battle. Yes they worked hard for that jutsu, but it is still an OP one.
But they are slow compared to most ninja and usually rely on CQC.
 

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The fact whether or not they worked for it dosent change the fact that of that jutsu being OP. Gai worked for the inner gates, 8th gate speaks for itself, but 7th gate is just as OP, not many ninja in the series can hold a candle to 8 gates. Minato worked to learn FTG, which is an OP jutsu. I did say NO OP KKG, JUTSU, or power ups. The jutsu could either be handed down, or worked for, it dosent matter if at the end the result is OPness.

So you are saying Kakashi, who you have on your list has no Op jutsu without sharingan? Last I checked Chidori was the fastest way to a Girls heart. That jutsu was originally rasengan handed to him by the 4th.
 

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Yeah, well, Zabuza would still beat them easily. Yamanakas are pretty worthless in 1v1 unless they have Mind Destruction (which Fu apparently doesn't have), but it's fine since they are not fighting types to begin with. I don't see Fu using that trap thing quickly in combat (also, it's Ao, not Aoi. Aoi is a filler dude).

Now I'm pretty confused about what you mean. Some characters would be weak in combat since they are mostly support-oriented, yet they could obviously do good in other areas of ninja-ing like intel gathering and spying. Those characters are usually dismissed as weak and fodder.

I would think Fu WOULD Have mind destruction, he is top tier in root afterall.

But the characters I were referring to in my list all have special jutsu that would be considered OP, only thing is, it is alot easier to avoid or counter those jutsu rather than someone throwing a giant TBB at you..unless you are up there in the Top tier ninja, you are as good as dead.
 

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So you are saying Kakashi, who you have on your list has no Op jutsu without sharingan? Last I checked Chidori was the fastest way to a Girls heart. That jutsu was originally rasengan handed to him by the 4th.

Did you check the part where Kakashi was about to be killed because of that Jutsu had a huge weakness? Its a straight forward attack that could easily be countered by anyone who is sharp enough to see that window of opportunity, Kakashi was about to be killed by that random stone ninja hadnt it not been for Minato saving him.
 

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But they are slow compared to most ninja and usually rely on CQC.

Dosent matter, just because they are slower dosent mean it wont be OP, they use that jutsu to tank through other ppls attacks and grab them. Tsunade still was able to land hits.
 

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ok dude, please reread. I said used to be. Also learn to use your grammer. The post I replied to said OP KGG Jutsu which means only OP kgg jutsu not Op jutsu

well, now you know.

damn, im double posting alot. lol
 
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