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Base guy with no gates
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Base guy vs kakashi (no sharingan)
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Kakashi should win.
He has the advantage in close combat due to his Raikiri (which can be used as melee weapon as well, or can be used in close combat as it normally is used), and because of the fact that he can stream
This doesn't even include the elemental ninjutsu Kakashi has.
Oh yeah, inb4 Raikiri isn't usable without Sharingan. It is, the only issue is that while running at such a high speed with it, Kakashi will experience tunnel vision and will be unable to react to any counter attacks. He doesn't need to use Raikiri like that so this isn't an issue.
He has the advantage in close combat due to his Raikiri (which can be used as melee weapon as well, or can be used in close combat as it normally is used), and because of the fact that he can stream
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If Gai uses his Soshuuga and he clashes with Kakashi's weapons, they get cut apart with ease. There isn't that much of a speed difference for it to make a major difference here. He also has Kakashi's Raiton Shadow Clone to worry about, if he hits that, he gets paralyzed and he dies, which is extremely likely if Kakashi decides to use it considering Gai can't tell the two apart, and he is strictly close combat. Kakashi also has his Raikiri variants, such as Lightning Transmission (Which can be used to bind or bisect targets) and Lightning Beast Running Technique. Which can be used close combat as well.This doesn't even include the elemental ninjutsu Kakashi has.
Oh yeah, inb4 Raikiri isn't usable without Sharingan. It is, the only issue is that while running at such a high speed with it, Kakashi will experience tunnel vision and will be unable to react to any counter attacks. He doesn't need to use Raikiri like that so this isn't an issue.
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That's assuming the distance though. If Gai pulls out soshuga, his fast reflexes won't allow kakashi to cut it apart with ease. Not to mention he can easily counter if Kakashi decides to attack due to greater reflexes and faster striking speed.
Kakashi won't defend against it if Gai decides to strike with the 2 at the same time.
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If Kakashi uses raikiri without a weapon, he is finished. It's still a taijutsu fight and using raikiri to enhance his strike can deal a heavy blow. Though that doesn't mean he would win in a CQC. Gai can still react to him and attack due to being superior in taijutsu. Raikiri would just make his hand more formidable when he hits but the problem is him hitting Gai who can react to him and attack faster. Gai would defeat him in this aspect.
The raiton clone would be the problem alongside the others you mentioned. If Gai can engage him in a taijutsu fight before he uses them, he can win. If not, he loses.
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If guy has enough time to pull out both nuchkucks then kakashi should at least be able to pull out 1 kunai.
Kakashi mid difficulty. I consider them comparable in taijutsu if not Kakashi better considering he can still open at least one gate. And besides that Kakashi's trickery with clones and overwhelming ninjutsu he can take this fight without too much issues
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If kakashi pulls out a kunai he's running lightning on it. No seals or prep required. Thus negating and even putting guy at a disadvantage for using soshuga.
WHAAT?? Are you even serious. DB even disagrees with you. Manga as well.
When shikaku said people skilled in taijutsu should aim for Madara, it was Lee(with Gai given him the boost) who was chosen. Kakashi wasn't. That's more than clear. Kakashi opening 1 gate only enables him to use front lotus. What's the significant difference?
Considering Kakashi better in taijutsu is just a joke.
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How is distance even relevant? No matter the distance Kakashi isn't getting blitzed by Base Gai, nor will it change how the CQC goes considering its all at a relatively close distance. Starting distance isn't relevant.
If Gai is attacking Kakashi, it'll give Kakashi time to react and counter with a Raikiri Kunai. The only way he's hitting Kakashi before he can react is if he's fast enough to blitz him, and there is no way that is happening here, not a chance. Not without gates. If Gai attacks with both at the same time, Kakashi simply uses two Raikiri Enhanced Kunai to parry, once he does that, the Kunai go right through Soshuuga.
I don't know why you are falling back so hard on Gai being able to attack Kakashi and hit him without him being able to block, and Kakashi being unable to hit Gai. If this were the case, Kakashi wouldn't have beat him
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. Gai's always been a Taijutsu specialist, yet Kakashi still beat him. This time isn't going to be any different. Wrong. He isn't finished if he uses Raikiri without a weapon. If Gai attacks and he parries with his hands (Raikiri can be used on both hands at once) Gai's going to lose an hand since Raikiri cuts. And no, its not still a Taijutsu fight if Kakashi is using Ninjutsu to enhance himself.
It wouldn't matter if he's engaged him or not, cause Kakashi can use a clone or any of the jutsu shown above at any time. Simply break away from Gai and attack using Lightning Transmission, or Lighting Running Beast, whose movements can be controlled by Kakashi manually.
Kakashi is only 0.5 below Gai in taijutsu. I think the opening of the first gate for the front lotus can easily make up for it and considering the move is a strong and fast taijutsu move, it can actually even transcend a non-gated Gai. In the databook, it only count base stats without gate opening. It's for that reason Lee only had 3.5 in taijutsu in the first databook, 4 in the second despite being capable to open 5 gates and 5 gated Lee would easily defeat a non-gated Gai
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Gai then wasn't a taijutsu master. Not as good as he is now. Not to mention that was his first fight with Kakashi.
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Obviously improvements would be made. It took time for Gai to improve his ability not to mention his training with Kakashi. In a taijutsu fight Gai wins.Starting distance is of course relevant. If it's short, it would give Gai enough time to fight him hand-to-hand before weapons or any other can be used. If it's a taijutsu fight, Gai would win due to him being superior in that aspect.
Lol So Gai attacks, Kakashi doges and uses raikiri to cut his hand? What happened to Gai quick reflexes? Kakashi won't use raikiri to easily cut his hand as easy as that.
In a taijutsu fight, I'll give it to Gai
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Not a master, still a specialist, so he still should have been better than Kakashi, who isn't a specialist, yet he still lost. And I never said that Gai loses in a Taijutsu fight, I said that he lost that match despite being the superior one in Taijutsu.
Lol. There is no distance that would prevent Kakashi from taking out a weapon. If its short, and Gai tries to engage him in hand to hand, Kakashi jumps back and pulls out a Kunai. Not that hard.
I said parry. Not dodge. Parry is when you clash. If Gai attacks and Kakashi manages to parry with his Raikiri, then Gai loses a hand.
Well of course, he'd win in a Taijutsu fight, but what I'm describing uses Weapons and Ninjutsu. Its not just a Taijutsu fight.