You just provided proof that Kekkai Tōta can be learned, which has been noted to be a more advanced version of the Kekkai Genkai's. In other words, its the same concept as Kekkai Genkai, meaning that it too should be able to be taught. (Unless you mean that every single Shinobi who preformed Storm Release is directly connected to Darui with blood. Which would just be beyond unlikely.) Storm Release is a Kekkai Genkai which can be taught, denying that is just blind. The attack the Alliance did proves that more than a few people can use the Storm Release and its highly unlikely that they are all connected to Darui by blood. That proves that the Databook you took that information from is out-dated and wrong. (Unless again, you insist that they are all blood related.) If one can learn a Kekkai Tōta, then one can learn a Nature Chakra Kekkai Genkai. Its the equivalent to; If one can draw a triangle, one can draw a line. (Same concept, just more advanced.) Now we don't know if Ōnoki is able to use Lava Releaes or not, but he is most likely not or he would have already. (Or he is, but chose to use the chakra on Dust Release instead.) I also stated that Mokuton is unique in the sense that its a Nature Chakra Kekkai Genkai that also requires you to have the cells of Hashirama in order to use it. However, you don't need his body, you most likely need the chakra stored in the cells. Meaning that its probably something unique to his chakra. Lava Release may also be something like this, that only a certain type of chakra can use it. (In the same sense as some have stronger chakra than others.) |
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I hope you don't mean little me. Because I go out of my way to translate things such as Yōton into Lava Release to make it easier to understand. I also do write Ōnoki because that is how is name is spelled. (Not Onoki) Also we are all using Japanese Translations, simply by providing an image of a scan or say a name of a jutsu or release. |
Shikotsumyaku means; Dead Bone Pulse. Most members seems to call it; Shikotsumyaku though, which is why I did it. Not to mention, I think it sounds better than Dead Bone Pulse. Also I use the Yaoi avatar because I like it. |
The rules does not even contain the word; Yaoi, Shonen-ai or Gay. Not to mention that the rules states that mocking towards someone's sexuality is not allowed, neither as a joke or serious. So if there is a rule against Yaoi then it breaks its own rules, not to mention that the rules also states that one is not allowed to mock characters or character pairings. Again, if Yaoi is not allowed by the rules, then the rules contradict themselves. Also, I could use Dead Bone Pulse instead if you'd prefer. (From this point out.) |
Well I would qualify Yaoi as something sexual, maybe I've just visited too much fakku?
And whether you use Shikotsumyaku or Dead Bone Pulse is up to you, sure it did irritate me but it's your choice.
Is seeing a girl and boy kiss sexual? Is seeing a half naked boy/girl sexual? Because if it is, then a lot of avatars need to be removed ASAP. Yaoi isn't sexual, unless it contains *** or nudity. Neither my Profile Picture, Avatar or Signature contains nudity or *** actions. (Hence, it is not sexual in any way.) Also, I can use both in the future such as; Shikotsumyaku (Dead Bone Pulse). |
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You really should read the manga again especially when Yamato/Tenzō explained how Seishitsuhenka works. All those people were Shinobi of Kumogakure. Ranton is an exclusive Kekkai Genkai to Kumogakure. In this context the databook is absolutely right. You just refuse knowledge because of your own opinion. A Kekkai Genkai can't be taught, that's a given fact of the databook and manga. Madara achieved Ranton after becoming the Jūbis Jinchūriki. He got also a technique which exceeds Kekkai Tōta~Gudōdama.
Your statement doesn't make any sense though. Indora, Madara and Itachi aren't directly related by blood, but had the same Kekkai Genkai.
Your statement would also imply that Kakashi is able to copy Yōton and Ranton too, but that's wrong.
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Behemoth55
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I was hoping to avoid using the proof your provided against you. It was claimed that there was a secret behind learning Dust Release, meaning that its probably the secret of how you combine the different elements to great something new. This is probably how one could learn a Kekkai Genkai as well, by learning the secrets of how to mold the said Natures into a new Release. You are using very old panels that are beyond outdated. The Truth Sekker Balls are made up of all the Releases, they are already molded and as they are, Madara would probably only need to take away some releases to create a Kekkai Genkai of it. By your definition of Bloodline Limit one would require the body or blood in order to use the Kekkai Genkai, that means that you are saying that every single Shinobi who has preformed Storm Release shares the same blood with Darui. (As in being related to him.) The Uchiha are all related, though some are further away than others. It was never stated that a Uchiha had a parent who was not a Uchiha. Unless you mean that a random child, born from non-Shinobi parents can obtain the Sharingan naturally. (Which they can't.) Also, please do use spoilers in the future. |
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Itachi and Sasuke are the best example. Mikoto Uchiha isn't a 'true' Uchiha.
I guess, you have a wrong understanding of Kekkai Genkai, Zeuke. The Kekkai Genkai is the mark of a special bloodline, but the users don't have to be directly related by blood.
Nope.
Also Gudōdama doesn't base on five seishitsuhenka, but on four.
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Where was it stated that Mikoto wasn't a "true" Uchiha`? Also, Hiruzen guessed that the ones Juubito used before he got control was made up by atleast 4 Elements. Logic supports the claim that they are created by combining all 5. |
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The databook said Mikoto isn't an original Uchiha. She married into the Uchiha-Clan. That's only natural because otherwise it would result into incest, Zeuke. :3
I did read the Databook page about Mikoto, it never states that she isn't an Uchiha. It states that she is a Jonin-Level Shinobi and watches over Sasuke and Itachi with love. It also states that she wished happiness for her family, not as a Uchiha but as a mother. |
Behemoth55
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Scripts of Tō page 53:
It says that Mikoto while not from Uchiha-lineage is still proud of the Clan. No reason to deny it.
The raw, the translation of carlsen, well even Viz declared she supported their family while not being an Uchiha.
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That's the raw. In the German version of the databook it says that Mikoto isn't an Uchiha. And if my Japanese is right in this case the raw says something similar.
The translation of Viz:
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"Not as an Uchiha" because she isn't one actually.