Was Minato originally meant to be the Greatest Shinobi of all time?

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Minato was supposed to be nice, intelligent and good leader but the term greatest in Narutoverse is always relative to say the least. There were Tobirama, Hashirama, Madara, Jiraiya etc many a great shinobies. Wasn't Orochimaru the first choice for Hokage till Hiruzen got the wind of his experiments?
 
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Minato was supposed to be nice, intelligent and good leader but the term greatest in Narutoverse is always relative to say the least. There were Tobirama, Hashirama, Madara, Jiraiya etc many a great shinobies. Wasn't Orochimaru the first choice for Hokage till Hiruzen got the wind of his experiments?
And even then, the 3rd Hokage was able to seal his arms away, as well as take down the 1st and 2nd Hokage.

The Third was always stronger than Orochimaru. The Third just had all the cards against him. And it was mentioned in the manga that the 4th had surpassed the 3rd, which would make the 4th stronger than Orochimaru.
 

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Minato was supposed to be nice, intelligent and good leader but the term greatest in Narutoverse is always relative to say the least. There were Tobirama, Hashirama, Madara, Jiraiya etc many a great shinobies. Wasn't Orochimaru the first choice for Hokage till Hiruzen got the wind of his experiments?
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Hiruzen always preferred Minato more.
 

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Minato was supposed to be nice, intelligent and good leader but the term greatest in Narutoverse is always relative to say the least. There were Tobirama, Hashirama, Madara, Jiraiya etc many a great shinobies. Wasn't Orochimaru the first choice for Hokage till Hiruzen got the wind of his experiments?
Exactly. Before it was known that Orochimaru was apesh!t insane, he was Hiruzen's first Hokage candidate choice, not Minato.
 

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but he wasn't giving them a tough time. go back and read the panels
i read the panels bra. The reason guy landed a hit on madara was because of minato. He basically decreased Madaras arsonal when he teleported those balls. His tag team with the 2nd against tobi, Minatos jutsu. Tobi trying to kill alliance, foiled by Minato, well naruto helped but you get it. Minato aint weak.
 

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He was the only Shinobi ever with an SS ranking and Flee-on-SIght order. Not anyone else had that, from Hashirama and Madara to Itachi or Orochimaru.
Fail, many shinobi are s ranked, all of the akatsuki are s ranked including orochimaru.

Also madara and Hashirama didn't live during the time when the shinobi system was created, the shinobi system wasn't created until Tobirama reign as hokage. It should be clear madara uchiha the most feared shinobi is beyond s ranked and Hashirama the god of shinobi is beyond s ranked.
 

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Exactly. Before it was known that Orochimaru was apesh!t insane, he was Hiruzen's first Hokage candidate choice, not Minato.
Nah, it was more like a fatherly wish for something good to happen to his fave student. Sasuke was Kakashi's favorite student, yet Naruto was equal to him.
 

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Exactly. Before it was known that Orochimaru was apesh!t insane, he was Hiruzen's first Hokage candidate choice, not Minato.
Nope, Minato was always the number one pick.
Fail, many shinobi are s ranked, all of the akatsuki are s ranked including orochimaru.

Also madara and Hashirama didn't live during the time when the shinobi system was created, the shinobi system wasn't created until Tobirama reign as hokage. It should be clear madara uchiha the most feared shinobi is beyond s ranked and Hashirama the god of shinobi is beyond s ranked.
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Exactly. Before it was known that Orochimaru was apesh!t insane, he was Hiruzen's first Hokage candidate choice, not Minato.
Maybe, but it doesn't make much sense in terms of the manga consistency though. The 3rd was stronger than the Orochimaru as demonstrated in the battle (and this was when the 3rd had odds severely against him). The Third lost against Orochimaru, but Orochimaru revived the 1st and 2nd Hokage to battle against as well (The 4th Hokage's revival had been cancelled). And we know that the 4th had surpassed the 3rd.

Which give Minato a high probability of being the greatest of all time. Remember that the 1st was called the God of Shinobi, but that was before Minato came along.
 

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Jesus Christ Orochimaru is underrated here.

Hiruzen wanted Orochimaru to be Hokage first. Minato was only a clutch asspull due to Hiruzen's resignation/retirement, which happened to occur after word got out that Orochimaru was uber psychotic.

Maybe, but it doesn't make much sense in terms of the manga consistency though. The 3rd was stronger than the Orochimaru as demonstrated in the battle (and this was when the 3rd had odds severely against him). The Third lost against Orochimaru, but Orochimaru revived the 1st and 2nd Hokage to battle against as well (The 4th Hokage's revival had been cancelled). And we know that the 4th had surpassed the 3rd.

Which give Minato a high probability of being the greatest of all time. Remember that the 1st was called the God of Shinobi, but that was before Minato came along.
The thing is, Orochimaru had enough strength to be Hokage, and an intellect far superior to Minato's, in general. Hiruzen knew this and initially wanted Orochimaru to become Hokage after he retired, not Minato.
 

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Jesus Christ Orochimaru is underrated here.

Hiruzen wanted Orochimaru to be Hokage first. Minato was only a clutch asspull due to Hiruzen's resignation/retirement, which happened to occur after word got out that Orochimaru was uber psychotic.
You have anything to back that up?
 

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Regardless of where Minato currently stands in Top 10 lists, etc, one thing is certain.

He was portrayed as being one of the greatest shinobi of all time in Part 1. He could easily have contented for the #1 spot (in terms of HYPE and PORTRAYAL) back then.
 
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