Hagoromo & Gai (8 gates) vs Madara (3 eyes)

[KidGamer65]

Kidgamer65 you said that hagoromo without juubi could make moons but thats not true, he first became its jin, so he had its chakra, later when he died he sealed its shell in the moon and split the chakra into 9 bijuu, i don't think that he first puts the shell WITH chakra into the moon and summons the chakra to make 9 bijuu, right?

When he died he split the Juubi into the Bijuu and removed the Mazo from his body, and sealed it inside the Moon. So no, he didn't have the Juubi's chakra when he did that.

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

Rikudo not being the strongest doesn't mean he's weaker than Madara.



"You sounds stupid mate" Characters are taken at their STRONGEST POINT unless otherwise stated. Rikudo's strongest point is with the Juubi, so I don't care.



Are you this dense? This means that Hagoromo's scale of jutsu and his overall destructive capacity are above Madara's, meaning he's stronger. Its really that simple. Chakra isn't the only or an extremely important factor, though its a factor as Sasuke knew Kaguya was stronger by her chakra, which he stated was on another level.

Lol. You can speculate about the Third Eye, but Madara has only used it to perform Infinite Tsukuyomi. Anything else is irrelevant speculation.

You really are an idiot. Minato's DC is still far above Nagato's, just like Rikudo's is above Madara's. Meaning that Nagato and Madara are weaker than their opponents. Even if I was using the logic you are accusing me of using, Minato has more chakra than Nagato. So your little assessment is shit.

And here it is , weak ass debaters that insult when they can't prove their point . First of all you're a damn *****y dude . Allowing yourself to disrespect and insult somebody on a forum , you're the ****ing loser type which is bullied in real life and is flexing on the net dude . First of all I would murk your little shit face outside these forums , having u talking shit online is funny as **** . Only losers like do that as they cant do shit in real life and you seem to hold a lot on you to snap on someone like that . I debated with a bunch of people since I arrived in this base and I always have been respectful as you can see in my posts but this is the first time I'm encountering a stupid person like you , you are definitely stupid as **** .

OP mentionned Rikudo vs Juubi jin Madara so your assumptions ain't shit.

 

[KidGamer65]

And here it is , weak ass debaters that insult when they can't prove their point . First of all you're a damn *****y dude . Allowing yourself to disrespect and insult somebody on a forum , you're the ****ing loser type which is bullied in real life and is flexing on the net dude . First of all I would murk your little shit face outside these forums , having u talking shit online is funny as **** . Only losers like do that as they cant do shit in real life and you seem to hold a lot on you to snap on someone like that . I debated with a bunch of people since I arrived in this base and I always have been respectful as you can see in my posts but this is the first time I'm encountering a stupid person like you , you are definitely stupid as **** .

No, you are just annoying as fuck. Simply calling it how I see it. You are acting like an idiot so you will be called an idiot. If you can't deal with that I suggest you just stop posting now, so I won't have to call you an idiot, then I won't have to see how you act on your period.

What's ironic is, you are the one acting tough.

Though continue bitching. Its amusing.

OP mentionned Rikudo vs Juubi jin Madara so your assumptions ain't shit.

There are no assumptions. Characters are always taken at their strongest point. Unless you can prove to me Juubi Jin Rikudo isn't the best form of Rikudo, then you can stop whining about my assumptions.

 

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Hagoromo is knowaldge is his strength he may able to come from the dead if killed by madara

Madara is physically stronger than hagoromo

Straight fight madara solos

 

[KidGamer65]

Hagoromo is knowaldge is his strength he may able to come from the dead if killed by madara

Madara is physically stronger than hagoromo

Straight fight madara solos

Please tell everyone where you got this nonsense from.

 

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@KidGamer65

You understmate madara.
Keep in mind madara has both sprite power combine imagine that fusion and ten tails + Renegun. He Suparsed everyone even Indra as he finished india transimition that why he was the only one able to bring black zetsu plains alive to bring kaguya back

The facts is Madara never used his full power when had both rinnegan and when he was fighting naruto and sauke

 

[KidGamer65]

@KidGamer65

You understmate madara.
Keep in mind madara has both sprite power combine imagine that fusion and ten tails + Renegun. He Suparsed everyone even Indra as he finished india transimition that why he was the only one able to bring black zetsu plains alive to bring kaguya back

No, I don't. You overrestimate him. Yes, he surpassed Indra, Ashura and all that. He didn't surpass Rikudo, and he definitely didn't surpass Kaguya.

The facts is Madara never used his full power when had both rinnegan and when he was fighting naruto and sauke

True, but it doesn't change anything.

 

[Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo]

No, you are just annoying as fuck. Simply calling it how I see it. You are acting like an idiot so you will be called an idiot. If you can't deal with that I suggest you just stop posting now, so I won't have to call you an idiot, then I won't have to see how you act on your period.

What's ironic is, you are the one acting tough.

Though continue bitching. Its amusing.



There are no assumptions. Characters are always taken at their strongest point. Unless you can prove to me Juubi Jin Rikudo isn't the best form of Rikudo, then you can stop whining about my assumptions.

Your response aint shit either as you're not addressing the respect you need to gives to a person online or not , you must be a ****ing kid . I hope you have a hiraishin counter to having your stupid ass beated in real life for telling the shit youre feeling confident enough to post online to someone like me , and that's if you even have the balls to do that error. And Sure , I must be the one acting though when I have the maturity to respect anybody I'm talking to right . As I said you must be a weak ass kid . Anyway I got other to do than this bulllshit, I'm not making efforts with my english in my theories and post so deal with **** teenager's responses like this.

 

[KidGamer65]

Your response aint shit either as you're not addressing the respect you need to gives to a person online or not , you must be a ****ing kid . I hope you have a hiraishin counter to having your stupid ass beated in real life for telling the shit youre feeling confident enough to post online to someone like me , and that's if you even have the balls to do that error. And Sure , I must be the one acting though when I have the maturity to respect anybody I'm talking to right . As I said you must be a weak ass kid . Anyway I got other to do than this bulllshit, I'm not making efforts with my english in my theories and post so deal with **** teenager's responses like this.

I tried to give you respect, but you started acting like a moron, claiming I'm biased, which is pretty damn ironic. So you've been called what you are. You clearly can't deal with that, so now you are having some kind of a bitchfit. Take it elsewhere buddy.

The only one who is insecure is the guy (you)` who wrote two paragraphs to bitch and moan about how tough he is in real life. Those kind of guys are usually the ones who are too scared to actually do anything in real life.

Don't post again unless you are going to post something other than you whining.

 

[Conspirator.]

Hagaromo solos. Only dumbass Madara fanboys think otherwise.

 

[MadaraReturns]

When he died he split the Juubi into the Bijuu and removed the Mazo from his body, and sealed it inside the Moon. So no, he didn't have the Juubi's chakra when he did that.

Even IF that was true, u saw with kin/ginkaku the chakra stays, imagine how much juubi chakra stayed if the bro's had that much kyuubi chakra, BUT i dont think what u say is true, ill research after my meal (lol) to see if u are right, but as far as i remember, you arent

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

When he died he split the Juubi into the Bijuu and removed the Mazo from his body, and sealed it inside the Moon. So no, he didn't have the Juubi's chakra when he did that.

idk, BZ told us that him and hamura created a seal that made the juubi the core of the moon.

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it doesn't look like hagoromo is on his deathbed in this scan (the next page, i'm assuming their confrontation with the juubi)

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[KidGamer65]

idk, BZ told us that him and hamura created a seal that made the juubi the core of the moon.

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it doesn't look like hagoromo is on his deathbed in this scan (the next page, i'm assuming their confrontation with the juubi)

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Yeah, he was. You have to combine this info with our previous known info from Kurama and Obito, and confirmed knowledge.

-Gedo Mazo was still formed.

-The Bijuu were formed.

-Hagoromo sealed the Mazo into the Moon, not the actual Juubi.

If we assumed based on BZ's story that Hagoromo sealed the Juubi away then, how would we explain how he became the Jin, how the Bijuu were formed, and how the Mazo ended up in the moon?

All this means is that Hamura had a part in it, somehow.

 

[Yocolaw]

Lmao this was a great answer and easy to understand, I'm not hoping for anybody to be sincere though people will stay in denial about any character other than their favourites. Madara one shotted all the favourites characters in this manga so any answer or debate about him will be denied.

We'll there goal was to remove them I don't see GAI havering a problem dodging that wen he already intersepted one from kakashi from outta nowhere

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Yeah, he was. You have to combine this info with our previous known info from Kurama and Obito, and confirmed knowledge.

-Gedo Mazo was still formed.

-The Bijuu were formed.

-Hagoromo sealed the Mazo into the Moon, not the actual Juubi.

If we assumed based on BZ's story that Hagoromo sealed the Juubi away then, how would we explain how he became the Jin, how the Bijuu were formed, and how the Mazo ended up in the moon?

All this means is that Hamura had a part in it, somehow.

BZ story is the most accurate because he witnessed it happen in person.

if we assumed his story his true, hagoromo and hamura could've done something more complex than what minato did to kurama. by simply taking all of the juubi's chakra, sealing it into themselves, then sending the gedo mazo into the moon.

the bijuu were born from hagoromo using COAT with his juubi chakra that he had. wait.. something's up, idk, but BZ made it clear to us that him and hamura sealed the juubi into making it the core. its right there in the manga.

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[XY iNVeRSe]

We'll there goal was to remove them I don't see GAI havering a problem dodging that wen he already intersepted one from kakashi from outta nowhere

the difference is, that he was in the air..

 

[~Sky~]

The Sage stomps.

 

[KidGamer65]

BZ story is the most accurate because he witnessed it happen in person.

So did Kurama. [

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if we assumed his story his true, hagoromo and hamura could've done something more complex than what minato did to kurama. by simply taking all of the juubi's chakra, sealing it into themselves, then sending the gedo mazo into the moon.

Hamura never got any of the Juubi's power. Only Hagoromo did, and he only sealed the Mazo into the moon after splitting up the Juubi into the 9 Bijuu via Creation of All Things.

the bijuu were born from hagoromo using COAT with his juubi chakra that he had. wait.. something's up, idk, but BZ made it clear to us that him and hamura sealed the juubi into making it the core. its right there in the manga.

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Yeah, that doesn't mean that Kurama's side of the story is false.

 

[Yocolaw]

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the difference is, that he was in the air..

This speed is clearly dodging that in mid air,for one he has afterimages in a wide radius creating dust cloud in "****ing mid air" that is foot speed not ftg or shunshin no one in the Verse beside GAi can run on air

 

[Yocolaw]

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