Hagoromo & Gai (8 gates) vs Madara (3 eyes)

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No, I didnt say stronger chakra level=gg
I gave several reasons why the hate?
Wow dude , I corrected you and agreed with your post , I really dont get what you mean but anyway..

Hagoromo does have a third eye wtf? haha
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It's your opinion .. If the cover where it's red is your proof well so be it , I think it's a marking due to the fact that Persons who had the juubi power ( don't know if Kaguya has it too though ) have this marking in the back and it could be a
Sage marking .. Plus why would it be a different third eye than Madara , Kaguya and Sasuke ? I don't see any reason .
 

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^Such a fanboy. Sage does have feats that others have already mentioned.
His powers are Sasuke and Naruto's combined, or more, as it is uncertain if he
even split ALL of his powers among them. Saying Naruto and Sasuke, who just got
his powers would be more skilled than him is pretty stupid.
By your logic, Konohomaru is > Sage. That is about the stupidest thing I ever heard.
Hagoromo might not solo easily, but he definitely does win against Madara.
 

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^Such a fanboy. Sage does have feats that others have already mentioned.
His powers are Sasuke and Naruto's combined, or more, as it is uncertain if he
even split ALL of his powers among them. Saying Naruto and Sasuke, who just got
his powers would be more skilled than him is pretty stupid.
By your logic, Konohomaru is > Sage. That is about the stupidest thing I ever heard.
Hagoromo might not solo easily, but he definitely does win against Madara.

Please keep your negativity for yourself , nothing u said here is relevant and the Naruto and Sasuke part is totally off subject as I did not even mention what you said in this thread . Lmao ; it's kind of easy to bash someone when the odds are against him and be on the safe side, grow some balls and let's debate about a opinion you have which is unlikely to makes people agree with you first before freely bashing a person's debate.
 

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^Such a fanboy. Sage does have feats that others have already mentioned.
His powers are Sasuke and Naruto's combined, or more, as it is uncertain if he
even split ALL of his powers among them. Saying Naruto and Sasuke, who just got
his powers would be more skilled than him is pretty stupid.
By your logic, Konohomaru is > Sage. That is about the stupidest thing I ever heard.
Hagoromo might not solo easily, but he definitely does win against Madara.
Lollll pls man madara annihilates hagoromo, sasuke and naruto
 

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^Madara can't win this easily. If he wins, he wins it high diff.
Anyways, I used to think that Madara was stronger too, until I saw how
strong Naruto and Sasuke were. Anyways, if you think Madara's stronger,
I respect your opinion. But I'm curious to hear your reasoning.
 
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^Madara can't win this easily. If he wins, he wins it high diff.
Anyways, I used to think that Madara was stronger too, until I saw how
strong Naruto and Sasuke were. Anyways, if you think Madara's stronger,
I respect your opinion. But I'm curious to hear your reasoning.
I love decent people like you, sorry i also respect your opinion, he gained his 3rd eye and from what we saw, it looked like madara is much stronger to me,
I can't say why, because we only saw his 'rain drops' and !!4¡¡ limbo's, but as we just know that hagoromo beats konohamaru, i just think madara wins!

He has 3 original rinnegan, we didn't even see anything of him, but naruto and sasuke and sakura together werent able to hit him (yet)
I think his (tai) jutsu just went through the roof, taijutsu = because he probably also gained speed
Rep for your kindness
 
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gai EE to the ground 5 times witch would result with madara hitting the core of earth

cause hagoromos there gai has no rreason to worrie of death and beat the **** outta madra
 

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Hagoromo can solo.

Madara wishes he had the full power of the sage. And Hagoromo had the power of the Juubi, smh this is a stomp with negative difficulty. This man made the moon of his death bed. None of the CT's madara made were near the level of the moon. Adding Might Guy makes the Impossible for madara. Madara kills himself at the beginning of the battle, due to knowing how impossible it is.
 

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When madara gained 3 Rinnegan. Sasuke and naruo didn't put up that much of a fight. If madara didn't need infinite Tsukuyomi, had his gudo dama and was bloodlusted, he could've easily killed Naruto and Sasuke. People seem to miss that :(

Madara made it to Kaguya lvl when he gained 3 Rinnegan and nearly solo'd the entire himan/animal race, i thought kishi made that clear when he effortlessly threw up mountain ranged CT's and called them raindrops. :/

People just hate on Madara and still sees hagoromo as God of narutoverse.

1 Rinnegan Pre- Shinju Madara << Hagoromo
1 Rinnegan Post-Shinju Madara < Hagoromo
2 Rinnegan Post-Shinju Madara =/< Hagoromo
3 Rinnegan Post-Shinju Madara >/= Hagoromo.

OP: Could go either way. Gai isn't a factor against gudo dama. #MangaFact
If Gai gives Hagoromo enough time to seal Madara, then its GG. If madara One shots Gai via Ifinite Tsukuyomi or gudo dama to the head, then Madara wins extreme diff.
 

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When madara gained 3 Rinnegan. Sasuke and naruo didn't put up that much of a fight. If madara didn't need infinite Tsukuyomi, had his gudo dama and was bloodlusted, he could've easily killed Naruto and Sasuke. People seem to miss that :(

Madara made it to Kaguya lvl when he gained 3 Rinnegan and nearly solo'd the entire himan/animal race, i thought kishi made that clear when he effortlessly threw up mountain ranged CT's and called them raindrops. :/

People just hate on Madara and still sees hagoromo as God of narutoverse.

1 Rinnegan Pre- Shinju Madara << Hagoromo
1 Rinnegan Post-Shinju Madara < Hagoromo
2 Rinnegan Post-Shinju Madara =/< Hagoromo
3 Rinnegan Post-Shinju Madara >/= Hagoromo.

OP: Could go either way. Gai isn't a factor against gudo dama. #MangaFact
If Gai gives Hagoromo enough time to seal Madara, then its GG. If madara One shots Gai via Ifinite Tsukuyomi or gudo dama to the head, then Madara wins extreme diff.
how madara hit a unstopablr force
 

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Lmao this was a great answer and easy to understand, I'm not hoping for anybody to be sincere though people will stay in denial about any character other than their favourites. Madara one shotted all the favourites characters in this manga so any answer or debate about him will be denied.
 

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Lmao this was a great answer and easy to understand, I'm not hoping for anybody to be sincere though people will stay in denial about any character other than their favourites. Madara one shotted all the favourites characters in this manga so any answer or debate about him will be denied.
exactly. people still think that Gai can beat him in a 1v1 (Madara starts with all gudo dama). which is beyond me. people say hagoromo solos, but what they're forgetting is that when madara got back his other rinnegan, sasuke or naruto didn't even land a hit, was having difficulty with the Limbo clones, had to stay in one spot until Mugen tsukuyomi was finish etc. they didn't do crap to him. they had no back up plan, nothing. they keep talking about the old 1 rinnegan madara that was getting beat by naruto and sasuke (despite them not causing and serious damage that madara couldn't handle) but they never bring up the fact that madara basically neg diffed them when he gained both rinnegan. i can bring up scan after scan, there's no reasoning with them, they probably think i'm like the other madara fans and think i'm completely biased towards everyone he's put up against, but i'm not.
 
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It Simply proved that Rikudo's long hype has been proven wrong, if you can't understand that or admit it too I can't do much here
Rikudo not being the strongest doesn't mean he's weaker than Madara.



As I stated above , Juubi Jin Madara with THIRD eye > Rikudo Sennin . Just for your information I really likes the Sage so there is not much feat or information I'm not aware of . OP mentionned Rikudo Sennin vs JUUBI JIN Madara with THIRD EYE so why do you automatically assume Rikudo has the Juubi? You sounds biased mate .
"You sounds stupid mate" Characters are taken at their STRONGEST POINT unless otherwise stated. Rikudo's strongest point is with the Juubi, so I don't care.

You try to justify the hype by stating that Pre-Jin Hagoromo has the feat of making the moon , which Madara cannot do . Dude, His chakra levels doesn't mean shit as it's not because he has more that he automatically beats Madara and stomps any version of him as you imply Lmao . Chakra levels aren't the only factor in a fight so this is irrelevant . Plus Madara has the third eye here , can't we speculate this is a major advantage for him ? Or is it hype too and I need to explain it too? Lmao . Plus , in the Minato vs Nagato thread we are debating on, I dont recall Minato could summon any Meteors or any Massive Chibaku Tensei as Healthy Nagato and even weak Nagato could . Does that makes Minato less able to wins against him in your opinion?? No as you stated countless time so please stop to be biased .
Are you this dense? This means that Hagoromo's scale of jutsu and his overall destructive capacity are above Madara's, meaning he's stronger. Its really that simple. Chakra isn't the only or an extremely important factor, though its a factor as Sasuke knew Kaguya was stronger by her chakra, which he stated was on another level.

Lol. You can speculate about the Third Eye, but Madara has only used it to perform Infinite Tsukuyomi. Anything else is irrelevant speculation.

You really are an idiot. Minato's DC is still far above Nagato's, just like Rikudo's is above Madara's. Meaning that Nagato and Madara are weaker than their opponents. Even if I was using the logic you are accusing me of using, Minato has more chakra than Nagato. So your little assessment is shit.
 
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