[VS] war arc kakashi vs itachi

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False. He used kamui as his opener/opening technique against obito..
Actually summoning is 3 seals and a small amount of blood. U not seeing all 3 in that scan is a testament of edo itachi's skill not massacre itachi.

Nìgga you for real? U_U
 

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Nìgga you for real? U_U

You're arguing a near featless 13yr old itachi against prime war arc kakashi yet I'm being questioned over the realness of my argument... this N¡gga.

P.s. seals for summoning:

Boar → Dog → Bird → Monkey → Ram
 

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You're arguing a 13yr old itachi against prime war arc kakashi yet I'm being questioned over the realness of my argument... this N¡gga.

P.s. seals for summoning:

Boar → Dog → Bird → Monkey → Ram

13yr old Itachi happens to have the strongest visual technique ever introduces to us in the series. If anybody should be being questioned, it's you.

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Itachi used one seal to summon the crows, plain and simple. Seals don't magically decrease just because you're skilled at them, sorry. For Itachi's summoning, that's all he requires to use.
 

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Kakashi doesn't use Kamui as his first attack. Never has never will, and Itachi can summon crows faster than Kakashi can load Kamui. Itachi's been shown to be able to weave hand seals faster than the Sharingan can even see, and the seal to summon the crow is only one. Kakashi gets stomped.

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no ,kakashi used kamui as a first attack on the gedo when he ripped off his whole arm
and when he used it on tobi after sasuke fought danzu
good try to get rid off kamui that shows your admission that kamui ends the fight
but the question is when did itachi use ka in a fight?
 

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no ,kakashi used kamui as a first attack on the gedo when he ripped off his whole arm
and when he used it on tobi after sasuke fought danzu
good try to get rid off kamui that shows your admission that kamui ends the fight
but the question is when did itachi use ka in a fight?

We don't know when Itachi used KA, but we know he used it.

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Using an attack in a fight and just how quickly the user will use it are two different things. The above picture displays perfectly well that Kakashi only uses it when it's absolutely necessary or when he's being pushed into a corner. He has no reason to use it in the first second of the battle before anyone even moves an inch.
 

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He as in who? Shisui? Shisui's death happened over 10 years ago. Prior to the massacre. So there isn't a problem there
He as in itachi? Itachi gave it to naruto deactivated. Hence it being 3t.

I don't see the problem here.

The Problem is Itachi already stated the when KA is used the Mangekyo fades away, there would be no reason for Itachi to have to wait a whole 10 yrs to use it again when Shisui gave it to him Fully Activated , So that meant Itachi has already used it in between the time period.
 

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13yr old Itachi happens to have the strongest visual technique ever introduces to us in the series. If anybody should be being questioned, it's you.

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Itachi used one seal to summon the crows, plain and simple. Seals don't magically decrease just because you're skilled at them, sorry. For Itachi's summoning, that's all he requires to use.

Itachi unlocked the greatest(debatable compared to kamui/ka/limbo/rinne techs etc) techniques. His mastery with them is debate.
What lvl susanno does he have?ribcage? Skeletal?
Does he have the spirit weapons?
How many times can he use it in a day?
You can't answer these questions. Heck his tsukuyomi back then was so bad seven year old no sharingan sasuke remained conscious.
You're using a half empty deck yet expecting a full house.

Edo itachi used one seal. Not 13 year old itachi.

Yes they do.

Example 1:

Zabuza and kakashi needed 44 seals to use a water Dragon with a pre-existing source of water. Mei did the same with one seal without a source of water.

Example 2:
Sasuke and kakashi no longer use seals for chidori/raikiri despite it originally requiring 13.

Come with something better bro.
 

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Itachi unlocked the greatest(debatable compared to kamui/ka/limbo/rinne techs etc) techniques. His mastery with them is debate.
What lvl susanno does he have?ribcage? Skeletal?
Does he have the spirit weapons?
How many times can he use it in a day?
You can't answer these questions. Heck his tsukuyomi back then was so bad seven year old no sharingan sasuke remained conscious.
You're using a half empty deck yet expecting a full house.

Edo itachi used one seal. Not 13 year old itachi.

Yes they do.

Example 1:

Zabuza and kakashi needed 44 seals to use a water Dragon with a pre-existing source of water. Mei did the same with one seal without a source of water.

Example 2:
Sasuke and kakashi no longer use seals for chidori/raikiri despite it originally requiring 13.

Come with something better bro.

From what we've seen, Itachi's crow summoning requires one seal. Other summonings are other summonings. The seals required in order to do them are irrelevant. It's like comparing what one jutsu's quantity of seals required compared to another's. We've never seen Itachi need more than one, so we can assume it only requires one. Deal with it. Speed of one seal > activation of Kamui.
 

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The Problem is Itachi already stated the when KA is used the Mangekyo fades away, there would be no reason for Itachi to have to wait a whole 10 yrs to use it again when Shisui gave it to him Fully Activated , So that meant Itachi has already used it in between the time period.

I already admitted that. He had to have used it right after the massacre, since he couldn't use it during his fight with sauce. He died 23
Massacre takes place when he's 13

Meaning he used it atm a couple months after the massacre.

So what you're gonna b like holy eyes over here and use a young 13yr old itachi?
 

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I already admitted that. He had to have used it right after the massacre, since he couldn't use it during his fight with sauce. He died 23
Massacre takes place when he's 13

Meaning he used it atm a couple months after the massacre.

So what you're gonna b like holy eyes over here and use a young 13yr old itachi?

Lmao doesn't matter. Any Itachi beats Kakashi.

Oh and btw, I concede. It doesn't require one hand seal to use. It requires none at all, LOL.

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13 year old novice Itachi shits on any Kakashi.
 

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We don't know when Itachi used KA, but we know he used it.

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Using an attack in a fight and just how quickly the user will use it are two different things. The above picture displays perfectly well that Kakashi only uses it when it's absolutely necessary or when he's being pushed into a corner. He has no reason to use it in the first second of the battle before anyone even moves an inch.

and the same with itachi , he has no reason to use ka in the first second of the fight (that if he can use it)

and yes, kakashi used the kamui in the first second against the gedo when he ripped off his whole arm (which is like human’size x 100 ) before the gedo even disapear to go to madara who summoned him

we dont know how ka works ,and if needs eyes contact or not ?
 

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and the same with itachi , he has no reason to use ka in the first second of the fight (that if he can use it)

and yes, kakashi used the kamui in the first second against the gedo when he ripped off his whole arm (which is like human’size x 100 ) before the gedo even disapear to go to madara who summoned him

we dont know how ka works ,and if needs eyes contact or not ?

If they both have no reason to use shit like Kamui and KA, then the battle from part one would just replay itself. Tsukuyomi would end him immediately since Itachi always uses that from the beginning anyways.
 

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From what we've seen, Itachi's crow summoning requires one seal. Other summonings are other summonings. The seals required in order to do them are irrelevant. It's like comparing what one jutsu's quantity of seals required compared to another's. We've never seen Itachi need more than one, so we can assume it only requires one. Deal with it. Speed of one seal > activation of Kamui.

Summoning is a universal jutsu. We know how many seals it takes.
We know with practice the amount of seals can be reduced.

We've never seen young itachi even perform summoning so we can't even assume he knows the tech at that age. I just have you reasonable doubt. So you can't assume a thing.

Doesn't change the fact that kamui > itachi hand seal speed
Heck hebi sasuke was able to throw a windmill shuriken at his face before he could weave seals. So sasuke shuriken jutsu> itachi seal speed.

Deal with it.
 

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Lmao doesn't matter. Any Itachi beats Kakashi.

Oh and btw, I concede. It doesn't require one hand seal to use. It requires none at all, LOL.

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13 year old novice Itachi shits on any Kakashi.

Lmao you fall back on a crow clone already made of presummoned crows. Not to mention that being a older itachi and not a 13 year old one.Log off bro.
 
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Summoning is a universal jutsu. We know how many seals it takes.
We know with practice the amount of seals can be reduced.

We've never seen young itachi even perform summoning so we can't even assume he knows the tech at that age. I just have you reasonable doubt. So you can't assume a thing.

Doesn't change the fact that kamui > itachi hand seal speed
Heck hebi sasuke was able to throw a windmill shuriken at his face before he could weave seals. So sasuke shuriken jutsu> itachi seal speed.

Deal with it.

Sharingan eyes have conceived Kamui; Sharingan eyes have not conceived Itachi's hand seal usage. You lost me the second you brought up an irrelevant Hebi Sasuke, especially since Itachi wasn't trying in that fight.

Deal with it.
 

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Lmao you fall back on a crow clone already made of presummoned crows. Not to mention that being aolder itachi and not a 13 year old one.Log off bro.

Except, that wasn't a crow clone, and Itachi's hand seal speed never increased since he was 13 :|...
 

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Except, that wasn't a crow clone, and Itachi's hand seal speed never increased since he was 13 :|...

Pull out the full scan then cuz I'm pretty sure that's the clone he used sasuke prior to their final fight.

Proof?
 

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Pull out the full scan then cuz I'm pretty sure that's the clone he used sasuke prior to their final fight.

Proof?

Seeing as you're the one screaming the opposite as factual, give me proof to the contrary otherwise your assertment holds the amount of weight relative to a feather.
 

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Sharingan eyes have conceived Kamui; Sharingan eyes have not conceived Itachi's hand seal usage. You lost me the second you brought up an irrelevant Hebi Sasuke, especially since Itachi wasn't trying in that fight.

Deal with it.
Really? Is that why kakashi told us everything itachi was doing since way back in part 1? Despite his "unreadable" seals ? And when did a sharingan user conceive kamui? Full speed kamui Obito couldn't see it when he did it to bm naruto. Lol

Deal with it.
 

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Seeing as you're the one screaming the opposite as factual, give me proof to the contrary otherwise your assertment holds the amount of weight relative to a feather.

Give me the full scan and I'll give you the proof.
 
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