Obito vs Minato & Tobirama

[OnPoint]

Why name it after the Outer Path, an ability granted by the Rinnegan? It just doesn't make sense mate.

 

[VongolaX]

Why name it after the Outer Path, an ability granted by the Rinnegan? It just doesn't make sense mate.

Same concept could apply for why does the mangekyo sharingan exist when two people in the series are able to use Susanoo without there eyes.

By having the rinnegan, you can utilize full power.

What's unique about it is that you can have one eye and still reach the requirements.

So Obito and blind Madara without the eyes wouldn't be able use those chakra dragon chains that extracted naruto/bee easily.

Gedo mazou wouldn't be mobile

They wouldn't be able to use rinne tensei

Can't control 7-9 bijuus all at once

And will only be able to use one path at a time, not like Edo Nagato who can use all at once.

I sent SilverWolf a message about it with scan, proofs, and everything.

Can you ask him to send a copy or something?

I can't post URL with cellphones.

 

[VongolaX]

Some of you are never at a loss for excuses.

If directed towards me, excuses don't come in chapters...

It's called factual proof

Chapter 606 happened for a reason and explained many questions.

So if that is an issue for you, then you are doomed for a life of failure in every vs. thread. :|

 

[Strict]

I see no fact here. Madara said that you need Uchiha and Senju powers to perfectly control Gedo Mazo. He further said that, if you possess both powers, you can control the Gedo Mazo. There was nowhere say that you can summon the Gedo Mazo as well without the Rinnegan. When Akatsuki used the Mazou in Pain's absence, Pain just could have summoned the statue before.

So no evidence. You just search for excuses. No Rinnegan abilities without the Rinnegan. Or else Madara would have used any of them when being revived at the battlefield. But he used no Rinnegan technique and didn't summon Gedo Mazo. You say he needed the Rinnegan to summon Gedo Mazo out of Obito. Is this proved, do you have a statement of it? Or is it just an argument to suit your opinion? Fact is, he needed the Rinnegan to summon Gedo Mazo at the battlefield. I don't distinguish between summoning the empty shell of the Juubi out of Obito's body or doing regular summons.

 

[VongolaX]

I see no fact here. Madara said that you need Uchiha and Senju powers to perfectly control Gedo Mazo. He further said that, if you possess both powers, you can control the Gedo Mazo. There was nowhere say that you can summon the Gedo Mazo as well without the Rinnegan. When Akatsuki used the Mazou in Pain's absence, Pain just could have summoned the statue before.

So no evidence. You just search for excuses. No Rinnegan abilities without the Rinnegan. Or else Madara would have used any of them when being revived at the battlefield. But he used no Rinnegan technique and didn't summon Gedo Mazo. You say he needed the Rinnegan to summon Gedo Mazo out of Obito. Is this proved, do you have a statement of it? Or is it just an argument to suit your opinion? Fact is, he needed the Rinnegan to summon Gedo Mazo at the battlefield. I don't distinguish between summoning the empty shell of the Juubi out of Obito's body or doing regular summons.

You've already failed...


If I go into further details, your stubbornness will surely blind you.

 

[Kamui Sama]

If double Kamui Obito can warp using the left eye (Kakashi) while being intangible he wins easily. Although I'm not sure about that

 

[Penguin]

I think the duo wins.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Obito slaughters. Dual Kamui makes Kamui fast not to mention he would have a Susanoo plus his genjutsu is a factor here. Dual Kamui Obito is to much.

 

[Ababeel]

Minato has never canonically fought an Obito wielding two Mangekyō Sharingan. So that statement alone is guff.

Kamui is useless against FTG, even IF he was able to teleport one or the 2 of them, then what?
they will just use their FTG to go back to the normal world, or better, they can attack him from both sides.

 

[Unorthodox]

minato & tobirama can react to kamui that alone is enough for them to win

 

[cyberzone10]

Kamui is useless against FTG, even IF he was able to teleport one or the 2 of them, then what?
they will just use their FTG to go back to the normal world, or better, they can attack him from both sides.

Kamui Dimension is inescapable and no you cant use FTG to get out the Dimension.

There is a reason why Minato avoids getting suck from Obito. Your argument sucks.

 

[ARGUS]

Minato & Tobirama still win

--FTG is still faster than Kamui, and with the duo tagging each other they can evade all the kamui warps that obito would use

--The fact is that despite the double kamui, obito still has to manifest physically in-order to attack the duo, on top of the fact that the duo can use KB, and Kunai to further enhance their use of FTG, meaning that all warps are easily evaded

--Whenever obito would become tangible, FTG would always outrun his kamui, furthermore he is outnumbered here along with KB which can disrupt his kamui based moveset,,, and once Obito is marked, the FTG duo have multiple ways to attack him,

--Obitos mokutons or katons are easily evaded, and are non factor, as well as genjutsu thanks to the duos sensing skills and speeds that would enable them to evade eye-contact against obito,

--CQC is also more advantageous for the duo, manily because of the fact that they can evade all of obitos attacks and can proceed to mark him, the moment he solidifies himself,

--im taking the kamui-susanooo out of the equation in my response

 

[Memento Mori]

I think Minato & Tobirama wins

 

[BillyBob99]

Kamui is useless against FTG, even IF he was able to teleport one or the 2 of them, then what?
they will just use their FTG to go back to the normal world, or better, they can attack him from both sides.

That fanfic

 

[wael reda]

Kamui is useless against FTG, even IF he was able to teleport one or the 2 of them, then what?
they will just use their FTG to go back to the normal world, or better, they can attack him from both sides.

obito can warp thier necks with long range kamui

 

[wael reda]

minato & tobirama can react to kamui that alone is enough for them to win

they cant react to every thing just because they are fast
minato wasnt able to react to jiubiobito in the right time
sasuke with his teleportation couldnt avoid being warped by kaguya although that wasnt faster than kamui fastest speed

 

[Haizaki]

Minato & Tobirama still win

--FTG is still faster than Kamui, and with the duo tagging each other they can evade all the kamui warps that obito would use

--The fact is that despite the double kamui, obito still has to manifest physically in-order to attack the duo, on top of the fact that the duo can use KB, and Kunai to further enhance their use of FTG, meaning that all warps are easily evaded

--Whenever obito would become tangible, FTG would always outrun his kamui, furthermore he is outnumbered here along with KB which can disrupt his kamui based moveset,,, and once Obito is marked, the FTG duo have multiple ways to attack him,

--Obitos mokutons or katons are easily evaded, and are non factor, as well as genjutsu thanks to the duos sensing skills and speeds that would enable them to evade eye-contact against obito,

--CQC is also more advantageous for the duo, manily because of the fact that they can evade all of obitos attacks and can proceed to mark him, the moment he solidifies himself,

--im taking the kamui-susanooo out of the equation in my response

Yeah this exactly IMO

 

[Ababeel]

Kamui Dimension is inescapable and no you cant use FTG to get out the Dimension.

There is a reason why Minato avoids getting suck from Obito. Your argument sucks.

Says who?
Kaguya teleported team 7 to her dimension, yet Sasuke was able to summon his falcon.
So, unless you can prove that S/T jutsu do not work in another dimension, your point is in vain.

-lol, Minato did not know anything about his jutsu, why would he put himself in that situation?
and your argument suck even more. Lol

 

[Ababeel]

obito can warp thier necks with long range kamui

Minato's FTG is faster than Kamui, try harder.
Minato already proved that twice.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Minato & Tobirama still win

--FTG is still faster than Kamui, and with the duo tagging each other they can evade all the kamui warps that obito would use

--The fact is that despite the double kamui, obito still has to manifest physically in-order to attack the duo, on top of the fact that the duo can use KB, and Kunai to further enhance their use of FTG, meaning that all warps are easily evaded

--Whenever obito would become tangible, FTG would always outrun his kamui, furthermore he is outnumbered here along with KB which can disrupt his kamui based moveset,,, and once Obito is marked, the FTG duo have multiple ways to attack him,

--Obitos mokutons or katons are easily evaded, and are non factor, as well as genjutsu thanks to the duos sensing skills and speeds that would enable them to evade eye-contact against obito,

--CQC is also more advantageous for the duo, manily because of the fact that they can evade all of obitos attacks and can proceed to mark him, the moment he solidifies himself,

--im taking the kamui-susanooo out of the equation in my response

@bold- Why would Obito have to solidify to attack? With his eye he can stay intangible with Kakashi eye he can snipe. All you need is eyesight to use long-range Kamui which he would still have if he's intangible.

Don't try to overrate there sensing abilities. When Obito is intangible he can't be sensed at all confirmed by Hinata Shino bugs and even Minato himself. If there trying to avoid eye-contact and dodge Kamui snipe which will be 2x faster that's simple impossible. Not to mention the bigger chakra reserves you have the larger the Kamui confirmed by Naruto when he cloaked Kakashi.