How Can People Hate Sasuke, But Not Gaara?

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The excuses people make for Gaara are down at the level of human refuse - it's same old same old, and it stinks. The guy basically confessed that he butchered people just to feel alive and here I see typical NBers spewing garbage for this guy. You can like him no doubt, as we all have our favourite characters, but don't think for a second that his petty sacrifice makes up for the innocent people he killed without any reason, warning, or cause. Gaara was a truly despicable human-being, and no matter what he does, to absolve him of his heinousness is borderline stupid and disgusting.

Whatever Sasuke has done pales in comparison to this guy's frequent 'feel-alive' escapades. It's not even remotely comparable. Adding some kind of Nationalistic agenda into all of this, is even more preposterous, as Sasuke's hatred was fueled by Konoha. They galvanized all Uchiha into action through consecrating Tobirama utterly rubbish political agenda - the biggest emo-window-licking-retard in the entire manga, who forever whined and moaned about the Uchiha. Couldn't even keep his hands off Madara's Sharingan. it shows his petty mental capacity to not accept and embrace the Peace Treaty which was supposed to be a fresh start between the two clans.

Gaara had no political conspiracy entangled with his fate. He chose to stay and murder innocent people anyway. When he could have simply killed his father and saved everyone the trouble and misery. This shows how weak-minded he truly was. God, how NB literally pulls stuff out of its ass is ... wondrous to behold.

I have a decent deal of respect for you because most of your posts are well thought out, but this is just disgusting.

Gaara had a demon inside of him. How do so many people forget this? How would you feel as an innocent child if every time you tried to people you ended up them? The worst part of it being, he never truly had any idea what was.

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You can like him no doubt, as we all have our favourite characters, but don't think for a second that his petty sacrifice makes up for the innocent people he killed without any reason, warning, or cause. Gaara was a truly despicable human-being, and no matter what he does, to absolve him of his heinousness is borderline stupid and disgusting.

What the hell is this? 'Without any reason, warning, or cause?' The person he loved most in his life, same as Sasuke, tried to murder him. Except, different from Sasuke, before he was even ten his father was . Sasuke hadchoices following the massacre. There weren't assassins trying to kill him, and the village was friendly, although pitying, towards him. He was thought of as a human. Gaara was thought of as a . He was led to believe that even his own mother thought of him as only a way to . : before he could become overwhelmed by the world, Iruka taught him what it was to be acknowledged; from since he was five or six, Gaara had no examples of what it was to be pure. Survival of the fittest was what he was shown, and if you weren't strong enough to survive you deserve nothing more than death.

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Whatever Sasuke has done pales in comparison to this guy's frequent 'feel-alive' escapades. It's not even remotely comparable. Adding some kind of Nationalistic agenda into all of this, is even more preposterous, as Sasuke's hatred was fueled by Konoha. They galvanized all Uchiha into action through consecrating Tobirama utterly rubbish political agenda - the biggest emo-window-licking-retard in the entire manga, who forever whined and moaned about the Uchiha. Couldn't even keep his hands off Madara's Sharingan. it shows his petty mental capacity to not accept and embrace the Peace Treaty which was supposed to be a fresh start between the two clans.

Gaara had no political conspiracy entangled with his fate. He chose to stay and murder innocent people anyway. When he could have simply killed his father and saved everyone the trouble and misery. This shows how weak-minded he truly was. God, how NB literally pulls stuff out of its ass is ... wondrous to behold.

Tobirama's disdain of a politically egalitarian approach admittedly did spurn the Uchiha into action, but don't you dare attempt to slight Gaara's experiences: no political conspiracy entangled with his fate? Gaara wasn't even though of as a person. People looked at him and saw Shukaku, no matter how he tried to persuade him that that wasn't all he was.

That last quoted paragraph is simply despicable. He could have simply killed his father? You make it sound as if it's so simple to kill a Kage level Shinobi before you're even a teenager, the same Kage level Shinobi that suppressed Shukaku single-handedly. That is in no way an indication of how 'weak-minded' he is.
 

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I have a decent deal of respect for you because most of your posts are well thought out, but this is just disgusting.

Gaara had a demon inside of him. How do so many people forget this? How would you feel as an innocent child if every time you tried to people you ended up them? The worst part of it being, he never truly had any idea what was.



What the hell is this? 'Without any reason, warning, or cause?' The person he loved most in his life, same as Sasuke, tried to murder him. Except, different from Sasuke, before he was even ten his father was . Sasuke hadchoices following the massacre. There weren't assassins trying to kill him, and the village was friendly, although pitying, towards him. He was thought of as a human. Gaara was thought of as a . He was led to believe that even his own mother thought of him as only a way to . : before he could become overwhelmed by the world, Iruka taught him what it was to be acknowledged; from since he was five or six, Gaara had no examples of what it was to be pure. Survival of the fittest was what he was shown, and if you weren't strong enough to survive you deserve nothing more than death.



Tobirama's disdain of a politically egalitarian approach admittedly did spurn the Uchiha into action, but don't you dare attempt to slight Gaara's experiences: no political conspiracy entangled with his fate? Gaara wasn't even though of as a person. People looked at him and saw Shukaku, no matter how he tried to persuade him that that wasn't all he was.

That last quoted paragraph is simply despicable. He could have simply killed his father? You make it sound as if it's so simple to kill a Kage level Shinobi before you're even a teenager, the same Kage level Shinobi that suppressed Shukaku single-handedly. That is in no way an indication of how 'weak-minded' he is.

Thats just Nb resident crybaby XD hed sell his soul to the devil if he liked Sasky too XD your better off just disregarding him completely like 99% of Nb does XD
 

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I have a decent deal of respect for you because most of your posts are well thought out, but this is just disgusting.

Gaara had a demon inside of him. How do so many people forget this? How would you feel as an innocent child if every time you tried to people you ended up them? The worst part of it being, he never truly had any idea what was.

What the hell is this? 'Without any reason, warning, or cause?' The person he loved most in his life, same as Sasuke, tried to murder him. Except, different from Sasuke, before he was even ten his father was . Sasuke hadchoices following the massacre. There weren't assassins trying to kill him, and the village was friendly, although pitying, towards him. He was thought of as a human. Gaara was thought of as a . He was led to believe that even his own mother thought of him as only a way to . : before he could become overwhelmed by the world, Iruka taught him what it was to be acknowledged; from since he was five or six, Gaara had no examples of what it was to be pure. Survival of the fittest was what he was shown, and if you weren't strong enough to survive you deserve nothing more than death.

Tobirama's disdain of a politically egalitarian approach admittedly did spurn the Uchiha into action, but don't you dare attempt to slight Gaara's experiences: no political conspiracy entangled with his fate? Gaara wasn't even though of as a person. People looked at him and saw Shukaku, no matter how he tried to persuade him that that wasn't all he was.

That last quoted paragraph is simply despicable. He could have simply killed his father? You make it sound as if it's so simple to kill a Kage level Shinobi before you're even a teenager, the same Kage level Shinobi that suppressed Shukaku single-handedly. That is in no way an indication of how 'weak-minded' he is.

How is it disgusting? I am paralleling them and creating an acerbic argument through pure antithetical notions. People tread far beyond the line of manga established logic with Sasuke and conjure up excuses for other characters, let them be valid, invalid, or simply outrageous. If this blunt approach gets the point across, then so be it.

None of these Tailed Beasts are demons. Don't use words that don't belong within the manga. The term demon is purely religious and has certain connotations attached to it, none of which can be fitted into One Tails supposed malevolent character. Hence, this argument is wrong from the get go. You attaching this idea of 'demon' with one-tails doesn't make it anymore devious and evil in the pure sense of the word. The manga is in disagreement here.

No where in my argument did I mention that Gaara's plight was not sympathetic. Take everything within the context of the thread title, not anywhere beyond it. It has posed a rhetorical question, not an argumentation culled from a vast analysis of Gaara's development (or lack thereof) within the manga. Nor am I concerned about his precarious living as a Jin. It's the title and biased notions of NB that concern me. Which is why the post s harsh.

Is that some sort of comparison? Are you actually trying to endeavour that the Village's friendliness presents some sort of choice to an individual who lost his entire clan? I need to venture this here - how are the utterly ludicrous ideas of friendship and - let's throw in another cultural nonsense item in here - peer support in anyway, given precedence over a mass slaughter of ones entire genetic line or being rueful and miserable over that loss? I am curious about this. You talk about choices? Then Gaara had a choice to kill his father and end the whole matter. Why did he cling onto him, let him make attempts at his life? Don't make it sound so cut and dry, my friend.

People are different. Gaara unconsciously wanted acknowledgement, Sasuke didn't. People treated him like a tool, yet he was there at the exams representing his Village regardless? Sasuke never cared about people's opinions or their viewpoints. To him, only his family mattered. The general idea I get from this base is that nonsensical song of 'friendship is life, friendship is power'. How about not begrudging the guy over giving precedence to his family?

That is not a politically motivated conspiracy, but an ideology developed within the nations for Jins and Bijuus. Another gift from Tobirama and Hashirama's lofty political schemes. Again, I am not slighting it, I am creating a contrast, albeit harshly. I won't take back the last paragraph. Gaara had been killing quite frequently. He was a ninja as well. He could have devised a plan to kill his father and make his life easier. To let a person haunt you in life and not endeavour to exact punishment is weak-minded in my honest opinion. Had Sasuke not killed Itachi, I would have ventured the same for him.

This is a mere difference of opinion, which you have found despicable somehow for no valid reason. You appeared to have taken all this too personally.
 
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Gaara was a jinchuriki whereas Sasuke had survived his clan's massacre.No matter where,Jinchuriki's are treated badly than any other person.
Gaara redeemed himself in the Sasuke Pursuit arc and the Kazekage Rescue arc.But Sasuke is still yet to redeem himself.He has always been a mystery.
Are you serious Sasuke had it way worse than any jinchuriki by far when its all said and done
 

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Sasuke was born a normal shinobi

Gaara was born a weapon

Sasuke was seen as a prodigy

Gaara was seen a a monster

Sasuke did not live in fear of being killed

Gaara had multiple attempts at his life

Sasuke knew love

Gaara did not

Sasuke turned evil

Gaara saw the errors of his ways

Sasuke only has his interest in mind

Gaara does not


This adds up pretty much why they hate sasuke instead of gaara.
 

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Sasuke was born a normal shinobi

Gaara was born a weapon

Sasuke was seen as a prodigy

Gaara was seen a a monster

Sasuke did not live in fear of being killed

Gaara had multiple attempts at his life

Sasuke knew love

Gaara did not

Sasuke turned evil

Gaara saw the errors of his ways

Sasuke only has his interest in mind

Gaara does not

This Sasuke choose to live a life of Revenge stop trying to play the victim card.
 

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This Sasuke choose to live a life of Revenge stop trying to play the victim card.

GOD! People are still trying to stay. On the subject of characters with a tough childhood. It's not about who had a tough childhood. Having a tough life does not give you reasons to murder people. GAARA IS STILL A MURDERER NO MATTER HOW YOU HATERS PLAY IT!
 

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simply coz gara is not relevant to story than sasuke and sasuke is powerful as the main character.
 

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GOD! People are still trying to stay. On the subject of characters with a tough childhood. It's not about who had a tough childhood. Having a tough life does not give you reasons to murder people. GAARA IS STILL A MURDERER NO MATTER HOW YOU HATERS PLAY IT!
Your point? Gaara also couldn't sleep because a Tail beast was eating away his psyche. Sasuke choose to ally himself with the man that helped massacre his clan.
 

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coz sasuke is a selfish brat
gaara is killing coz its his instinc when he was a child
sasuke doing for the blinded love for his brother. he is selfish. just like tobirama said they are hard to reason with when they are shrouded with evil lol
 
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This Sasuke choose to live a life of Revenge stop trying to play the victim card.

and gaara chose to kill those innocents, he killed them because they made him feel alive. i dont see your point.
 

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Your point? Gaara also couldn't sleep because a Tail beast was eating away his psyche. Sasuke choose to ally himself with the man that helped massacre his clan.

sasuke was tortured by his brother who murdered his clan, that same brother tortured him again and told him he is weak, he messed with his insanity. but i forgot to haters, sasuke life was a bed of roses pff.
 

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Lol @ some of these answers justifying Gaara

Lel. False. Sorry.

How so? None of the Jinchuuriki ever witnessed anything traumatic like that and had to relive it a bunch of times caused by the person closest to him, oh wait and then when he gets his "revenge" on that person he finds out he was doing all of that to protect him and he was happy about it, and not to mention his clan history of the Butthurt Uchiha Syndrome made him delve into the darkness deeper than Gaara but my point is he is one of the deepest written characters in Naruto. Jinchuurikis had no friends? BOOHO... Its a little worse than that in Gaara's case as he had been lied to as well and had a lot of issues in his family and he is also one of the most justified psychos in Naruto (when he was evil and he was just as badass if not more as sasuke was when he was evil at that point).
 

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How so? None of the Jinchuuriki ever witnessed anything traumatic like that and had to relive it a bunch of times caused by the person closest to him,
He got hit with a Tsukuyomi twice. He didn't relive anything, seeing as he wasn't involved. He witnessed it third party. Big difference.
oh wait and then when he gets his "revenge" on that person he finds out he was doing all of that to protect him and he was happy about it.
Your point? Sasuke is the one that chose to set out for Itachi. He is the one that put that pain on himself.
and not to mention his clan history of the Butthurt Uchiha Syndrome made him delve into the darkness deeper than Gaara but my point is he is one of the deepest written characters in Naruto.
Butthurt Uchiha syndrome? Stop making an excuse for Sasuke. He chose his path. He is the one that chose to betray his friends. He is the one that chose revenge. He is the one that chose power over everything else. He is the one that chose to step into the darkness. Not some wannabee mental illness that you're making it out to be. Sasuke is not one of the deepest characters. His character is incredibly simple to understand, the majority of people just over complicate his character to make him seem deep.
Jinchuurikis had no friends? BOOHO... Its a little worse than that in Gaara's case as he had been lied to as well and had a lot of issues in his family and he is also one of the most justified psychos in Naruto (when he was evil and he was just as badass if not more as sasuke was when he was evil at that point).
Please, as if the Jinchuriki's struggles were limited to having no friends. Get real. The Jinchuriki's struggled more than any others could even dream of.
 

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He got hit with a Tsukuyomi twice. He didn't relive anything, seeing as he wasn't involved. He witnessed it third party. Big difference.

Your point? Sasuke is the one that chose to set out for Itachi. He is the one that put that pain on himself.

Butthurt Uchiha syndrome? Stop making an excuse for Sasuke. He chose his path. He is the one that chose to betray his friends. He is the one that chose revenge. He is the one that chose power over everything else. He is the one that chose to step into the darkness. Not some wannabee mental illness that you're making it out to be. Sasuke is not one of the deepest characters. His character is incredibly simple to understand, the majority of people just over complicate his character to make him seem deep.

Please, as if the Jinchuriki's struggles were limited to having no friends. Get real. The Jinchuriki's struggled more than any others could even dream of.

The bold is so true
 

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oh i don't know. maybe because gaara now cares for the whole alliance and sasuke still don't give a shit about his team(s) except for his boyfriend naruto?
 

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I believe most of Sasuke's haters dislike him because he's arrogant and a bit selfish at times.

Gaara's early character is quite different from Sasuke's. Basically, the entire time he was like an unpredictable sociopath and his past was shrouded in mystery, unlike Sasuke's. Sasuke's story is traumatic and tragic, but it was also mostly abrupt while Gaara's was a bit more systematic. He was born prematurely and lost his mother. His dad was a complete ass who put a tailed beast in him, not because he was forced to, but because he wanted too. Add to that, he was a terrible, abusive and neglectful father who tried to kill him six times lols. Gaara is also relateable to Naruto in that he was a pariah to the village. His uncle was the only one who ever loved him when he was little and then tried to kill him, which forced Gaara to kill him, which then led Gaara to think he killed his mother and that she detested him. Finally, we come to Kazekage Gaara who had done basically a complete 360 and put his village and the world above himself, overcoming his trauma, hatred and insanity.
 
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