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As the title states, in this thread, I will talk about the various dojutsus mentioned, and their order. First, I will prove that Rinnegan is greater than all the other dojutsus. The reason I want to do this is that many people on the base think Kaguya's eye is the father of all eyes when actually it is not true. I believe that Rikudo's Rinnegan was not inherited from his mother unlike what people are saying because his mother did not have such power. Before we begin, I want to say that every time I mention the word Rinnegan, I mean the eyes of Hagoromo, not any other eye.
I. Kaguya's eye is a subset of the Hagoromo's Rinnegan
Hagoromo's Rinnegan as awakened by Madara
So as shown above, Hagoromo's Rinnegan is the one Nagato, Madara, Obito and Hagoromo himself have shown so far. This Rinnegan can control all the six realms that have been so far in the Narutoverse - that is animals, humans, hell, etc. The most important is that Madara Uchiha has shown that once someone has the Rinnegan, he can also open a third eye once he get close to the moon.
The third eye source made plain and crystal clear
So, as we can see here, while we know Kaguya had, and has the same third eye as Madara, it is obvious that this third eye is not the source of the Rinnegan. Rather, those who have the Rinnegan can also open this third eye if they want. The reason Hagoromo initially wrote the stone tablet was to avoid such situation in case someone awaken his Rinnegan. From here, I draw my first thesis/conclusion:
II. Sasuke's eye: A Sharingan or a Rinnegan?
Well, Madara called it Rinnegan as we can see below:
As we can see above, Sasuke's eye has nothing to do with Hagoromo's Rinnegan. However, Madara called it the Rinnegan, and therefore, all the fanbase who was dying to see Sasuke with a Rinnegan has widely accepted this fact. Unfortunately for them, Sasuke has not shown any noticeable Hagoromo's Rinnegan effect yet, and therefore, they keep making prediction to prove that Sasuke's eye is powerful than Hagoromo's. In the first point above, I have shown that Sasuke's rinnegan cannot even come close to hagoromo's Rinnegan because it has at best a subset of Hagoromo's eye. Now, let check the Sharinnegan very close.
Sasuke showing both Sharingan and Sharinnegan (right and left eye)
Notice in this image that in the right eye, Sasuke has the Sharingan (3 tomoes). What are the characteristic of this sharingan?
This leads to a second thesis.
According to this, if a Sharingan as nine tomoes it will have at least 4 circles, where the outter circle will have no tomoes. If a Sharingan has 6 tomoes, it will show at least three circle, where the third circle has no tomoe. From this, we could hypothetically say that Sasuke's current eye is a giant Sharingan with sometime 6 tomoes and some other times 9. However, I will not engage in such discussion, and therefore, I leave the topic of Sasuke having Rinnegan opened, but state this:
Of course, this third thesis is not stating that there is nothing more about Sasuke's eye. Rather, I am comparing its power to Hagoromo's power.
III. Kaguya's Sharingan vs Sasuke's Sharinnegan
While I don't care about the generally non-justified argument from the Sasuke fanbase, I think it is too soon to related or compare Sasuke's eye with Kaguya's eye. This being said, I have notice that Sasuke's fanbase is really depressed and hungry for power, and therefore, they are out to make any comparison that can keep their hope alive. One such comparison is always related to Kaguya.
First, they look at everything Kaguya can do, then they relate Sasuke's eye to her eye, and finally conclude that Sasuke will have similar power. However, there are many flaws in their arguments:
Basically, I am saying that Kaguya may not even be using her Sharingan to teleport. She may not even be using a dojutsus but pure ninjutsu. Thus, all the comparison of Sasuke's eye with Kaguya's eye are mostly baseless, and are not back up by any action or fact. Even BZ could move through things such as earth, trees, etc without having the third eye. He could record scenes as well. Thus, BZ could be the one teleporting across dimensions while Kaguya performing ninjutsus to change landscape.
IV. The tree of knowledge of good and evil vs the tree of life.
Disclaimer: For those who hate religion, and specially christianity, you may stop reading at this point.
Now, everyone knows that the Shinju tree is the source of the Sharingan that Kaguya has.
Kaguya's eye is the fruit that come out the flower of the Shinju
So as you can see, by eating the Shinju, or the tree of knowledge of good and evil, one obtain the eye that can give power to dominate over everything through IT. However, I think the Shinju does not give power over life and death. Just as Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden after they ate the fruit of knowledge of good and evil, I think Kaguya failed to obtain the fruit or power that could have given her control over life and death.
Just as in the garden of eden, I think there is another tree, or something else that give power over life and death. This means once you obtain such power, you can move across all realms including the realm of the dead, the living, and the gods. This lead me to the hypothesis above:
I know you will say it is Ashura and Indra's chakra, but this is not true. I am talking about the original power that gave Hagoromo the Rinnegan. Also, I believe there is a reason why Hamura disappeared from the record to leave Hagoromo has the sole hero.
V. Conclusion
In this thread, I did my best to show that Hagoromo's Rinnegan is the greatest dojutsus so far shown in the manga. I also raised a doubt on the ability of Kaguya and Sasuke's eye to produce new power besides vision field and the IT. similarly, I showed that there is no evidence as to whether Kaguya is using her third eye or not, and that her current power is the result of many source of justsu other than dojutsu including Juubi, BZ, and human chakra collected using IT.
Your thoughts are welcome.
I. Kaguya's eye is a subset of the Hagoromo's Rinnegan
Hagoromo's Rinnegan as awakened by Madara
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So as shown above, Hagoromo's Rinnegan is the one Nagato, Madara, Obito and Hagoromo himself have shown so far. This Rinnegan can control all the six realms that have been so far in the Narutoverse - that is animals, humans, hell, etc. The most important is that Madara Uchiha has shown that once someone has the Rinnegan, he can also open a third eye once he get close to the moon.
The third eye source made plain and crystal clear
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So, as we can see here, while we know Kaguya had, and has the same third eye as Madara, it is obvious that this third eye is not the source of the Rinnegan. Rather, those who have the Rinnegan can also open this third eye if they want. The reason Hagoromo initially wrote the stone tablet was to avoid such situation in case someone awaken his Rinnegan. From here, I draw my first thesis/conclusion:
Thesis 1: Hagoromo's Rinnegan is more powerful than Kaguya's third eye because the owner of the Rinnegan can also open the same third eye. In fact, in mathematics, we would say that Kaguya's third eye is included, or a subset of Hagoromo's Rinnegan.
II. Sasuke's eye: A Sharingan or a Rinnegan?
Well, Madara called it Rinnegan as we can see below:
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As we can see above, Sasuke's eye has nothing to do with Hagoromo's Rinnegan. However, Madara called it the Rinnegan, and therefore, all the fanbase who was dying to see Sasuke with a Rinnegan has widely accepted this fact. Unfortunately for them, Sasuke has not shown any noticeable Hagoromo's Rinnegan effect yet, and therefore, they keep making prediction to prove that Sasuke's eye is powerful than Hagoromo's. In the first point above, I have shown that Sasuke's rinnegan cannot even come close to hagoromo's Rinnegan because it has at best a subset of Hagoromo's eye. Now, let check the Sharinnegan very close.
Sasuke showing both Sharingan and Sharinnegan (right and left eye)
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Notice in this image that in the right eye, Sasuke has the Sharingan (3 tomoes). What are the characteristic of this sharingan?
(a) Three tomoes inscribed in on a circle
(b) One additional circle without any tomoes
This leads to a second thesis.
Thesis 2: Both Sharingan and Rinnegan can possess circle. More precisely, in a Sharingan, every triple of tomoes is located on a circle.
According to this, if a Sharingan as nine tomoes it will have at least 4 circles, where the outter circle will have no tomoes. If a Sharingan has 6 tomoes, it will show at least three circle, where the third circle has no tomoe. From this, we could hypothetically say that Sasuke's current eye is a giant Sharingan with sometime 6 tomoes and some other times 9. However, I will not engage in such discussion, and therefore, I leave the topic of Sasuke having Rinnegan opened, but state this:
Thesis 3: Unless Sasuke is shown using six paths techniques, which are the signature of Hagoromo's Rinnegan, I maintain that Sasuke's eye is a giant Sharingan with Infinite Tsukyomi power.
Of course, this third thesis is not stating that there is nothing more about Sasuke's eye. Rather, I am comparing its power to Hagoromo's power.
III. Kaguya's Sharingan vs Sasuke's Sharinnegan
While I don't care about the generally non-justified argument from the Sasuke fanbase, I think it is too soon to related or compare Sasuke's eye with Kaguya's eye. This being said, I have notice that Sasuke's fanbase is really depressed and hungry for power, and therefore, they are out to make any comparison that can keep their hope alive. One such comparison is always related to Kaguya.
First, they look at everything Kaguya can do, then they relate Sasuke's eye to her eye, and finally conclude that Sasuke will have similar power. However, there are many flaws in their arguments:
(a) Kaguya has Sharingan as stated by Hagoromo, and they claim that Sasuke has Rinnegan.
(b) There is no evidence that Kaguya has ever used her third eye to perform a Jutsu other than IT
(c) They ignore that Kaguya has Juubi's power, Byakugan, and the chakra that she get from IT.
(b) There is no evidence that Kaguya has ever used her third eye to perform a Jutsu other than IT
(c) They ignore that Kaguya has Juubi's power, Byakugan, and the chakra that she get from IT.
Basically, I am saying that Kaguya may not even be using her Sharingan to teleport. She may not even be using a dojutsus but pure ninjutsu. Thus, all the comparison of Sasuke's eye with Kaguya's eye are mostly baseless, and are not back up by any action or fact. Even BZ could move through things such as earth, trees, etc without having the third eye. He could record scenes as well. Thus, BZ could be the one teleporting across dimensions while Kaguya performing ninjutsus to change landscape.
IV. The tree of knowledge of good and evil vs the tree of life.
Disclaimer: For those who hate religion, and specially christianity, you may stop reading at this point.
Now, everyone knows that the Shinju tree is the source of the Sharingan that Kaguya has.
Kaguya's eye is the fruit that come out the flower of the Shinju
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
So as you can see, by eating the Shinju, or the tree of knowledge of good and evil, one obtain the eye that can give power to dominate over everything through IT. However, I think the Shinju does not give power over life and death. Just as Adam and Eve were kicked out of the garden after they ate the fruit of knowledge of good and evil, I think Kaguya failed to obtain the fruit or power that could have given her control over life and death.
Just as in the garden of eden, I think there is another tree, or something else that give power over life and death. This means once you obtain such power, you can move across all realms including the realm of the dead, the living, and the gods. This lead me to the hypothesis above:
Hypothesis: Hagoromo was the only one who could scratch the power to control life and death. This power is manifest to those who can fully control his Rinnegan. It is also becoming clear that he did not get his Rinnegan from his mother as well. The source of his Rinnegan is yet to be revealed.
I know you will say it is Ashura and Indra's chakra, but this is not true. I am talking about the original power that gave Hagoromo the Rinnegan. Also, I believe there is a reason why Hamura disappeared from the record to leave Hagoromo has the sole hero.
V. Conclusion
In this thread, I did my best to show that Hagoromo's Rinnegan is the greatest dojutsus so far shown in the manga. I also raised a doubt on the ability of Kaguya and Sasuke's eye to produce new power besides vision field and the IT. similarly, I showed that there is no evidence as to whether Kaguya is using her third eye or not, and that her current power is the result of many source of justsu other than dojutsu including Juubi, BZ, and human chakra collected using IT.
Your thoughts are welcome.