[Discussion] Smoker and Vergo where do they rank in the VA tier?
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Morphing Shadowmaru
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This expecally the shit sabo just did
I think both r higher then the one sabo just took out
But smoker mid and vergo high
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Both Smoker and Vergo are very high tier VA's, the 2 strongest from what we've seen so far.
What? Vergo and Smoker are the same level.
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Vergo High VA
Smoker Mid VA
Smoker dissapoints IMO, makes me wonder why he has such a rank. Then again, vice admirals are not much of a threat nowadays, where Luffy was capable of handling a bunch in the war, so did Zoro and Sanji before that(I think). We have also seen Sabo solo the navy, VA Bastile was there too, all he has left is Fuujitora.
If the navy doesn't step up its game with their VA tier, they might exhaust their admirals.
Smoker Mid VA
Smoker dissapoints IMO, makes me wonder why he has such a rank. Then again, vice admirals are not much of a threat nowadays, where Luffy was capable of handling a bunch in the war, so did Zoro and Sanji before that(I think). We have also seen Sabo solo the navy, VA Bastile was there too, all he has left is Fuujitora.
If the navy doesn't step up its game with their VA tier, they might exhaust their admirals.
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Garp is too chill to take an admiral position.Whoop forgot about Garp, he's the strongest VA
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That's a fact, but he's still a VA so it applies.
He has that rank because he's mastered AH, is serving in the New World and leading the most difficult division of marines on the planet.
Also because he's had a winning streak with Luffy and has connections with Aokiji. He lost with Vergo because winning was not his number 1 priority. He wasn't even fighting seriously, so how can you say that he dissapoints?
The only fair loss he's had was with Law... and that was in the very very end of the fight that he got in that 1 hit
And you can't really say that VA's aren't impressive... Bastille is the first and only VA to ever go down that easy, and it was completely fair. He was fighting one of Dragons top commanders whos mastered Dragons techs and just consumed the Mera Mera. He doesn't even have Haki, so there's no shame in him losing.
Can you show me where Luffy defeated a bunch of VAs? And Zoro and Sanji most definitely didn't beat any, during that time at the buster call they were fighting captains and lieutenants not VA's. VA's were holding their ground on their ships watching from above.
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It's already been established tht Garp is above or Atleast at admiral level
When he turned down admiral position so why bring him up .-.
jiraiya lives
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the sarcasm is real hahaha they mopped the floor with luffy XD
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Yeah I figured it was necessary I ask because in a lot of debates that concern vice admirals people always say 'luffy stomped some in marineford' so I started using that in my debates and was shot down for that hard
What I want to know is where that lie came from
Black Mamba
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you srs? luffy was at like 10% in this, he couldn't even use gear 2nd let alone fight. one of them even say "looks like you're out of energy"
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we don't even know how strong they are yet, look at bastille everyone thought he was something. so far vergo is the strongest vice admiral excluding garp.
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The Vice Admirals at the Buster Call of Ennies Lobby were certainly stronger than Bastille. They played major roles in the war whereas Bastille only appeared in like 10 panels.
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vice admirals at enies lobby didn't even fight. no they didn't they were barely seen, 2 vice admirals got raped by whitebeard