[Theory] Black-Zetsu is manipulating Kaguya

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Hey guys,

This is my first theory so hopefully this goes alright. I hope no one else has written the same theory because I usually only check the forums once or twice each day, but here is how it goes.

I honestly don't see Kaguya as the final villain at all, but rather black zetsu. Although Kaguya is pretty much a god, black-zetsu seems to have this grasp over her, especially when he tells her to separate both Naruto and Sasuke, which she ends up doing. The reason why Kaguya possibly created black-zetsu in the first place was because of the fact that her real sons ended up betraying her and not sharing the ideals she had when it comes to chakra. This actually hurt her quite deeply, hence why she created him to be the son she never had and the only logical reason as to why he refers to her as his mother. Black-zetsu has seen this weakness and is taking advantage of her by acting a long with her ideologies while slowly dictating her decision making. I mean after the guy told his story about how he pretty much created Naruto, he said he was going to rejoin his mother, yet he seems to still stick around rather then becoming apart of her like he originally was. I find this quite strange. I also feel by black-zetsu being an individual for centuries since Kaguya's sealing, he see's no reason for wanting to become part of her as he possibly now considers himself as an individual although his mission has been completed. Deep down, Kaguya still has feelings for her two sons, as shown when she is crying when reminiscing when she see's Naruto and Sasuke, but quickly black-zetsu mentions about her sons sealing her away which then leads her to say that all chakra belongs to her. This is more evidence that he is trying to sway her mind, and kill her personality, hence why she doesn't really show much emotion or even speak.

Hopefully you guys enjoyed this! If you like the theory, then I will definitely write more. Please feel free to comment and discuss below, and i'll try and reply to your comments. Thank you so much! :)
 
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Although, I don't think BZ is the final villain, it's obvious that he's somehow in control of Kaguya or Kaguya is very conflicted with her current actions. Either that, or she's still getting her bearings after exploding out of Madara.
 

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I believe you're rigth and it would actually make things way more interesting in that way. I have also thought the exact same thing XD
 

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Hopefully, you are right. Kaguya is a terrible villain so Black Zetsu taking over as the final villain would be quite refreshing.​
 

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Although, I don't think BZ is the final villain, it's obvious that he's somehow in control of Kaguya or Kaguya is very conflicted with her current actions. Either that, or she's still getting her bearings after exploding out of Madara.
Yeah, maybe when I said that BZ was possibly the final villain was going a bit over board. But yeah, as you stated her actions are very conflicted, and at times like this, BZ usually cuts in to say something especially when BZ tells the story about her own sons sealing away their mother which gets her fired up saying that all chakra belongs to her. There was no other reason for her to have children if she didn't want to share her chakra in the first place.
 

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Hopefully, you are right. Kaguya is a terrible villain so Black Zetsu taking over as the final villain would be quite refreshing.
Yeah definetly, and especially with BZ's trend first back stabbing Obito and then Madara who none of us every expected, I wouldn't be surprised if he tries the same with Kaguya. His best way of possibly doing this is by getting her in an emotional state and then trying something, or maybe he is already succeeding by manipulating her the way he currently is, and has no intention to actually take over her body.
 

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Kaguya is more like a puppet to Black Zetsu who acts according to Black Zetsu but sometimes she also gets emotional. You can notice it in the current chapter. In previous chapter, she cried looking at Naruto and Sasuke and remembering Hagoromo and Hamura and suddenly she said, I hate you. IMO, it's because BZ can also see what Kaguya remembers. And that's why he said those words through Kaguya. And in current chapter, she completely acted like a puppet because BZ hated his brothers.
BZ needs Kaguya because Kaguya has the capability to stop Naruto and Sasuke but BZ doesn't.
 

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Kaguya is more like a puppet to Black Zetsu who acts according to Black Zetsu but sometimes she also gets emotional. You can notice it in the current chapter. In previous chapter, she cried looking at Naruto and Sasuke and remembering Hagoromo and Hamura and suddenly she said, I hate you. IMO, it's because BZ can also see what Kaguya remembers. And that's why he said those words through Kaguya. And in current chapter, she completely acted like a puppet because BZ hated his brothers.
BZ needs Kaguya because Kaguya has the capability to stop Naruto and Sasuke but BZ doesn't.
Yeah, I definitely agree with everything you have said here. I had also not taken into account about the fact that BZ needed Kaguya since she is the only one capable of stopping both Naruto and Sasuke. So yeah, that was an interesting point you made. Thanks for the post :)
 

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Hey guys,

This is my first theory so hopefully this goes alright. I hope no one else has written the same theory because I usually only check the forums once or twice each day, but here is how it goes.

I honestly don't see Kaguya as the final villain at all, but rather black zetsu. Although Kaguya is pretty much a god, black-zetsu seems to have this grasp over her, especially when he tells her to separate both Naruto and Sasuke, which she ends up doing. The reason why Kaguya possibly created black-zetsu in the first place was because of the fact that her real sons ended up betraying her and not sharing the ideals she had when it comes to chakra. This actually hurt her quite deeply, hence why she created him to be the son she never had and the only logical reason as to why he refers to her as his mother. Black-zetsu has seen this weakness and is taking advantage of her by acting a long with her ideologies while slowly dictating her decision making. I mean after the guy told his story about how he pretty much created Naruto, he said he was going to rejoin his mother, yet he seems to still stick around rather then becoming apart of her like he originally was. I find this quite strange. I also feel by black-zetsu being an individual for centuries since Kaguya's sealing, he see's no reason for wanting to become part of her as he possibly now considers himself as an individual although his mission has been completed. Deep down, Kaguya still has feelings for her two sons, as shown when she is crying when reminiscing when she see's Naruto and Sasuke, but quickly black-zetsu mentions about her sons sealing her away which then leads her to say that all chakra belongs to her. This is more evidence that he is trying to sway her mind, and kill her personality, hence why she doesn't really show much emotion or even speak.

Hopefully you guys enjoyed this! If you like the theory, then I will definitely write more. Please feel free to comment and discuss below, and i'll try and reply to your comments. Thank you so much! :)
She seems to have as much free will as an EDO
 

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She seems to have as much free will as an EDO
In what respect? An Edo can either be manipulated and lose its personality as shown when Kabuto was manipulating the 3rd Raikage and also when he takes Zabuza's personality away. There are also other Edo ninja who are allowed to keep their personalities again based on the restrictions the user gives them, or because of the fact that they can release themselves from their contracts. So saying she has as much free will as an edo is a rather general statement, as it can be interpreted differently in many ways.
 
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