[Theory] Black-Zetsu is manipulating Kaguya

[Felix]

BZ has too much influence on Kaguya, your theory may be true

 

[ᖇ α z m α η]

Pretty well done, but it feels more like a 'commensalism' in my opinion :/

 

[PlanetaryDevastation]

If Black Zetsu does indeed take on Sasuke in that alternate dimension....Sasuke is gonna solo his ass so bad....I mean, REALLY bad.


Sasuke uke has a Sharinnegan, a perfect Susanoo, and teleportation powers similar to that of a FTG. Unless BZ has some kind of hidden technique or is just leaving Sasuke in that dimension....them he has a serious death wish. Then again, we have to remember that BZ is Kaguya's will. So either way, Kaguya is the final villain if BZ does end up fighting both of them himself.

 

[Draxus]

I think you might be reading into this a bit too much.

BZ wasn't created as the child she never had, it was a last ditch effort to save herself before she was sealed by her real sons.

BZ hasn't shown any real influence on her, he's just giving sound strategic advice and she fallowed it. Now if Kaguya had decided on an action and BZ changed her mind, that would be more in line with you theory.

Also the biggest issue I have with your theory is lack of motive.

 

[Zol]

He's her will, so he helps out in battle. There is no hint he isn't loyal to her, in fact he seems to have a really huge mother-complex going on. He apparently has some form of symbiotic relationship with her, living in and on her body.

 

[Trucktub]

Yeah, maybe when I said that BZ was possibly the final villain was going a bit over board. But yeah, as you stated her actions are very conflicted, and at times like this, BZ usually cuts in to say something especially when BZ tells the story about her own sons sealing away their mother which gets her fired up saying that all chakra belongs to her. There was no other reason for her to have children if she didn't want to share her chakra in the first place.

I get where you're going with it! It just seems to be a bombardment of villains so who knows!! BZ could very well be a smaller part of a huge baddy we have yet to see (i hope not!)

 

[HouKage]

In what respect? An Edo can either be manipulated and lose its personality as shown when Kabuto was manipulating the 3rd Raikage and also when he takes Zabuza's personality away. There are also other Edo ninja who are allowed to keep their personalities again based on the restrictions the user gives them, or because of the fact that they can release themselves from their contracts. So saying she has as much free will as an edo is a rather general statement, as it can be interpreted differently in many ways.

Meant to be general.
but she is closer to 'very restricted but still has the ability to show some emotion' . .. than the full free will Edos

 

[jazza1017]

He's her will, so he helps out in battle. There is no hint he isn't loyal to her, in fact he seems to have a really huge mother-complex going on. He apparently has some form of symbiotic relationship with her, living in and on her body.

Yeah, definitely! But I also feel by being an individual person for such a long time since Kaguya's sealing, he might even consider himself her will anymore, but more of an individual being, hence calling her mother. Although I haven't seen any wills being created by any other character besides Kaguya, although Madara had attempted it and was then tricked by BZ who pretended to be his will, it would be interesting to see how other wills personalities work. BZ just seems to be way too much of an individual character now as he could have gained some intelligence after being alive for so long in comparison to the normal zetsu who seem pretty retarded.

 

[jazza1017]

I think you might be reading into this a bit too much.

BZ wasn't created as the child she never had, it was a last ditch effort to save herself before she was sealed by her real sons.

BZ hasn't shown any real influence on her, he's just giving sound strategic advice and she fallowed it. Now if Kaguya had decided on an action and BZ changed her mind, that would be more in line with you theory.

Also the biggest issue I have with your theory is lack of motive.

In a way your definitely right, but when ever she's shown a sign of some form of personality, like when she see's the resemblance in Naruto and Sasuke with her own two sons, BZ is quick to say how her own two sons sealed sealed their poor mother away etc which does make Kaguya react in a different manner. Had BZ kept quiet, I wonder how things would have played out although I still feel she would still try and reclaim the chakra that was stolen from her. She obviously still has feelings for her sons although what they did to her, and BZ see's this as one of her potential weaknesses against Naruto and Sasuke hence why he is now trying to interfere in the fight although he really doesn't have to.

 

[jazza1017]

I think you might be reading into this a bit too much.

BZ wasn't created as the child she never had, it was a last ditch effort to save herself before she was sealed by her real sons.

BZ hasn't shown any real influence on her, he's just giving sound strategic advice and she fallowed it. Now if Kaguya had decided on an action and BZ changed her mind, that would be more in line with you theory. Thanks for the comment.

Also the biggest issue I have with your theory is lack of motive.

Yes, these are valid points. We will really have to see a few more chapters to confirm both our points, its hard to tell what Kishi thinks when writing Naruto, because random things do happen out of no where, so what we may percieve as something may be interpreted as something completely different.

 

[jazza1017]

If Black Zetsu does indeed take on Sasuke in that alternate dimension....Sasuke is gonna solo his ass so bad....I mean, REALLY bad.


Sasuke uke has a Sharinnegan, a perfect Susanoo, and teleportation powers similar to that of a FTG. Unless BZ has some kind of hidden technique or is just leaving Sasuke in that dimension....them he has a serious death wish. Then again, we have to remember that BZ is Kaguya's will. So either way, Kaguya is the final villain if BZ does end up fighting both of them himself.

Yes, i've been thinking about this. I don't think BZ is capable of soloing Sasuke, so what they may end up doing is focusing on only 1 of them, either being Naruto or Sasuke until they manage to defeat one, then they can go after the other. So one of them is going to end up being trapped in the time being until something happens to the other. Unless BZ as gotten some sort of power-up of course which I don't really see being the case. Either way, we will see what happens.

 

[jazza1017]

Meant to be general.
but she is closer to 'very restricted but still has the ability to show some emotion' . .. than the full free will Edos

Yeah, that's what I thought you meant, and yes, I do agree with your point

 

[jazza1017]

I get where you're going with it! It just seems to be a bombardment of villains so who knows!! BZ could very well be a smaller part of a huge baddy we have yet to see (i hope not!)

Yeah, at one point I was even thinking he could have been a part of the Juubi once, and is possibly pretending to be Kaguya's will in order to manipulate her. I know its all very confusing lol, but when it comes to Naruto, your always in for a shock LOL

 

[kuro zetsu sama]

True he probably gonna try and troll her and fail.