Madara outsmarted BZ: Here's how

[UltimateHawk]

Naruto isn't fodder class, but I think it's NB being silly to say he's far above Sauce.

But why did you write so?

 

[Liquid Snake]

Lmao Naruto is fodder but he constantly saving sasuke Naruto is stronger than sasuke even orochimaru stated sasuke was worried because he could feel Narutos power and Naruto only stated he can't kill sasuke because of Indra not because of sasuke Naruto had felt ashura and Indra long before he knew who they were and let's say this thread is true which it's not madara could have outsmarted bz but who won at the end and even if madara comes back Naruto has the four hokages to help sasuke can help to but he has been getting fodderized he is a only a support character now

 

[Zol]

Apart from the usual crap (that infamous "tap" where Madara just did a three-point-landing), Sasuke didn't see into the future. That scene happened exactly as it was shown there with Sakura getting stabbed, it was no vision or anything.

I actually like Madara, but his diehard fanboys are sort of ruining him with their denial of reality. They get more retarded on a daily basis at least.

 

[Umari Senju]

yeah i don't think Madara is through either and I agree the tap on the ground was a setup of some fail-safe as well. So you get points for that...

The Sasuke wank and Naruto is a fodder crap though, keeps me from repping you though. Otherwise your theory isn't too bad.

 

[Limbo]

Guys, please stop the Nardo V Sasky debate.

 

[Homertime06]

I hope you are right because I can hardly believe madara would have such a shameful death.

 

[Liquid Snake]

He's admitted it at valley of the end and at war start/kage attack arc. It's a logical fallacy to say that Naruto needs to admit at every stage that he's weaker to Sauce. It's just common sense.

Sasuke and his crew of misfits felt Narutos chakra when they were no where near them Naruto could beat sasuke in chapter one CS saved him Naruto was also stronger when he had sage mode and sasuke had MS now everyone knows BSM Naruto stomps EMS sasuke that's a no brainer and current sasuke has failed in comparison to current Naruto against juubito madara and Kaguya and Naruto has been non stop fighting since he defeated kurama sasuke don't compare

 

[Wolfus]

Ok, sasuke sees the future with his rinnegan? What?

 

[The Sage Of Six T9]

I'm so torn about Madara . He has been held in such high esteems and regarded as one of the great genius ninja. To imply his was blind to this deception is ignorant . But saying he shall return isn't given. Not a fanboy , in fact I'm Kaguya fan boy if anything. I doubt Madara will return but I do feel that it was significance in his tapping the ground

 

[New knight48]

He's admitted it at valley of the end and at war start/kage attack arc. It's a logical fallacy to say that Naruto needs to admit at every stage that he's weaker to Sauce. It's just common sense.

You are obviously trolling because your way of thinking is what had a logical fallacy. It is not logical to assume that somebody is always weaker even after significant advancement of power.
Naruto might've been weaker at one time but that doesn't means he is stuck being weaker throughout his life. Your theory though is plausible, just that naruto bashing annoyed me

 

[Liquid Snake]

Naruto isn't fodder class, but I think it's NB being silly to say he's far above Sauce.

Their feats say Naruto is way above him lol Naruto fought the best of the best sasuke fought fodders and ppl who didn't wanna kill him yet he always is pushed to his limit lol

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

So if Naruto at age 6 says that Sasuke is stronger, it automatically implies it is for life? That's ignorance.

Is indeed, IGNORANCE! Well, what would you expect from Sasuke fapboys. They're just so very desperate like Sasuke can do everything and is superior to everyone. Just because Naruto admitted that Sasuke is stronger than him (a million of years ago), doesn't mean he is below Sasuke forever/for life. Common sense bruh. Such a pity! Lmao


XD

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

So if Naruto at age 6 says that Sasuke is stronger, it automatically implies it is for life? That's ignorance.

Is indeed, IGNORANCE! Well, what would you expect from Sasuke fapboys. They're just so very desperate like Sasuke can do everything and is superior to everyone. Just because Naruto admitted that Sasuke is stronger than him (a million of years ago), doesn't mean he is below Sasuke forever/for life. Common sense bruh. Such a pity! Lmao


XD

 

[Liquid Snake]

Apart from the usual crap (that infamous "tap" where Madara just did a three-point-landing), Sasuke didn't see into the future. That scene happened exactly as it was shown there with Sakura getting stabbed, it was no vision or anything.

I actually like Madara, but his diehard fanboys are sort of ruining him with their denial of reality. They get more retarded on a daily basis at least.

Madara was the best villain ppl only judge him by what he did after he became juubi jin but prior to that madara was looking badass

 

[LordNarutoSo6P]

He's admitted it at valley of the end and at war start/kage attack arc. It's a logical fallacy to say that Naruto needs to admit at every stage that he's weaker to Sauce. It's just common sense.

Sorry to say this bruh, but your way of thinking seems like a 3 year-old child U_U

 

[Limbo]

Madara was the best villain ppl only judge him by what he did after he became juubi jin but prior to that madara was looking badass

Everything about this thread was correct except the part where sasky sees future and where it said that bz considers nardo fodder, Madara will come back but this thread is now sasky v nardo

 

[Mikeyofthesharingan]

It's also true. Plus Madara's coming back and Naruto himself has admitted being weaker to Sasuke.

You thinking naruto admitting hes weaker than sasuke proves you cannot read in context and have zero reading skills.

Before i get to that ill note how desperately youre trying to support madara looking way to deeply into certain moments through out the manga like him tapping the ground. Madara had no clue of zetsus goals and had no plans for what transpired between him and zetsu and in no meaning of the term out smarted him at all.

Okay now if you read the manga IN CONTEXT you would know that naruto said sasuke is better than him... AT COMING UP WITH STRAGEGIES. By no means does naruto think sasuke is better than him and sasuke isnt. They are equals as of right now.

Even back in part 1 when sasuke was stronger naruto never said sasuke was better and said it many times that he has never thought of himself as inferior to sasuke. It would be grossly aganist narutos character and beliefs to say that he is inferior to sasuke

 

[Bansho Tenin]

I'm so torn about Madara . He has been held in such high esteems and regarded as one of the great genius ninja. To imply his was blind to this deception is ignorant . But saying he shall return isn't given. Not a fanboy , in fact I'm Kaguya fan boy if anything. I doubt Madara will return but I do feel that it was significance in his tapping the ground

how can you be a fanboy about a character we've only actually seen in the manga for like 3 chapters? thats retarded.

 

[ANBUCaptain]

You are obviously trolling because your way of thinking is what had a logical fallacy. It is not logical to assume that somebody is always weaker even after significant advancement of power.
Naruto might've been weaker at one time but that doesn't means he is stuck being weaker throughout his life. Your theory though is plausible, just that naruto bashing annoyed me

Why is it not logical? Tell me what do you think about Sakura in contrast to Sasuke and Naruto. Correct me if I'm wrong but have the three of those been the three main characters in this show and has Sakura been the weakest one since they were children? And that has not changed.

Kishi has a habit of creating patterns to characters relations to other characters. Sannins were the same as team 7: Tsunade weakest, then Jiraya and Orochimaru the strongest. That never changed.

 

[Sentinel]

Madara will come back but not because he forsaw that black zetsu was going to betray him.

Madara genuenly belived he created BZ and thought of him as HIS will, so why would he be thinking his own will would betray him.
remember that madara has an issue with people standing behind him? he only lets his guard down for people he trusts and BZ was behind him for a long time. he would not have let his guard down like that if he even conciderd that BZ could betray him. face it, madara got used just like he used the others.

and the only reason he could come back is because kaguya is using his body at the moment to be able to manifest in the narutoverse. once she gets defeated/sealed, madara is going to be "free" from her control again and is going to make a new apearance as base madara, probably die shortly after because of the loss of his biju, since all jinchuriki die after losing the biju. yes, I do think that naruto and sasuke are going to manage saving the biju at the same time as they defeat kaguya. they are not saved just yet since only a small portion of them is in naruto at the moment. the bulk of their chakra is in kaguya/madara.

probably his last acts will be to try and cling to life or to regain his friendship with the first.

and sasuke didn't see into the future, she did get stabed but she has that 100 healings jutusu active so she can't die at that time. and it was naruto who saved her from that position, not sasuke, he simply doesn't care about her at the moment, I guess that was obvious.

and the fingertap?
on the top panel of that page he is seen making a 3 point landing, and on the next page he is standing upright, I'm guessing the tap is not much more then showing him slowly getting up, but I could be wrong, there is not enough evidence in the manga yet to draw any conclusions as of yet.