681 Warm Up: The O in NarutO As In RikudO!

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Well, in this thread, there is no need to waste your time trying to say that I am a naruto fanboy because I am really a fanatic of Naruto's character. However, if you are tempted to say that I am a Narutotard, make sure you drop an intelligible argument to make this look like a discussion.

This being said, as the tone of title suggest, I am going to show something that connect Naruto strongly to Rikudo. Here, I am almost trying to deny that Rikudo gave any power to Naruto. My opinion is that Naruto already had his power in an immature state and when His Own Senjutsus was perfected after meeting the SO6P.


I. Unlike Sasuke's fan service power up, Naruto was already strongly connected to Rikudo.

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As you can see above, before Naruto met the sage, Naruto already had a power that Kurama called the Six Paths'... This means that Naruto really had something connected to the six paths, or to Rikudo himself even before the meeting. I am not surprised that this something showed up the first time along with a sealing Jutsu. Moreover, it is important to notice that this power is not from Kurama, because we can see that this power is actually a poison to Kurama because it can suppress Kurama's chakra and destroy his bijudama instantly. My guess is that Naruto inherited something, a special chakra, from his mother - something that is like a very tough KKG that will awaken fully later. Remember Kushina could suppress Kurama with her chakra chain, and we know now that these chakra chain are actually an Uzumaki KKG.

Also, I said that Naruto's perfect Senjutsu is his own because Rikudo's Senjutsus is also the same as the toad Senjutsu. The reason I believe this is that Rikudo also knew someone called Gammamaru who gave him prophecy about Naruto. Thus, Naruto is not just Ashura's reincarnation, but was chosen by Ashura because of the quality of his vessel. See below for the evidences as Rikudo says that Naruto is the one who summoned his soul, etc.

In the leftmost middle panel, Rikudo affirmed that Naruto summoned his soul and conclude that Naruto was chosen by Ashura because he has something special.
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So a good reading shows that Naruto already had a special power that attracted Ashura to choose him as his reincarnation. What that special power is? I guess it is the same special power that Chyo could sense - a power that can change everything.

II. A better connection of Naruto to Rikudo, even before meeting Hagoromo

Most people think that Naruto did not have the power of the sun mark on his hand before meeting Rikudo. However, I think he did have it. Look at the following two images.

1. Naruto cancelled 5 bijudama with the power that was activated by using Kurama's chakra
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2. Rikudo certainly cancelled an attack from Kaguya in the past using the same technique Naruto used above
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As you can see, the two posture are the same in Naruto's fight against Obito and Hagoromo's fight against Kaguya in the flashback. While Naruto did not have the current sun mark, if you zoom Naruto's palm in the above image in (1.), you will see that Naruto had a dark mark in his palm with a dark sun mark, or a full moon since it is dark.

From the above, I am tempted to say that Rikudo only help Naruto activate his power. Rikudo did not give any new power to Naruto. If Rikudo gave a power to Naruto, then Naruto has not use that power yet.​

III. A matter of Birth

This section will be short. As we all know, Rikudo was born when his mother had the Shinju fruit power. Thus he was born with power inherited from his mother. Similarly, Naruto was born from Kushina who had the chakra of the Kyuubi inside her, and we could say the power of the Shinju as well (even though not quite the same).

So, again, unlike Sasuke, Naruto had one more connection to Rikudo - that is the context of their birth. While many people like to repeat the ignorant statement of Konoha citizen who did not know anything about Naruto, I think Naruto was actually born with chakra as well. That chakra is symbolize by the six marks on his face, Which connect him again to the number 6 as in SO6P.

IV. The other Sun, or the power of two Suns

Yeah. It is clear that Naruto has two suns: (1) his father, and (2) his mother. The question is to know who is the source of Ashura, and what the power of the other sun is. Well, let wait.

V. Conclusion

As I said in the title, this is a 681 warm up. I hope you enjoy how Naruto still has mysteries to reveals about his power. Unlike Sasuke whose power are fan service without any prior foreshadowing, Naruto's power of the six paths has been foreshadowed even before he met the Rikudo Sennin. Naruto had a special power before he met Hagoromo.
 

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I would like to congratulate you on making this groundbreaking realization, which will mark a completely new era in mankind history. Truly we have not seen a greater breakthrough in human history since the discovery of fire. I would also plea you to remember your everyday comrades when you become the most famous person alive, which is something that is eminent and near. From this point onward, we regular peasants may only bask in your illuminating and vast glory which will invigorate and inspire us to move forward and reach greater heights in an attempt to not fall behind you too much, even though none of us will ever be capable of comparison to your sheer majestic presence, much less your deeds, we lesser beings will be incinerated by your everlasting greatness if we do not advance ourselves.

I would also like you to remember who was it that first congratulated you on your remarkable achievement.
 

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if this is a warm up im not reading the chapter... jk

foreshadows of sun mark, and its possible hago just awakened narutos power. the gates seal naruto used was uzumaki sealing
lol at sasukes fanservice powerup.. true
 

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well naruto is the main character of this story so yea, a lot more things is going to happen for him
he has a prophecy for crying out loud.

but yea sasuke is important too, so lets not bash him.
 

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well naruto is the main character of this story so yea, a lot more things is going to happen for him
he has a prophecy for crying out loud.

but yea sasuke is important too, so lets not bash him.
my same answer i couldnt have said it better myself +rep :win:
 

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I agree with Naruto's special connection to the SO6P. Naruto had access to Kurama's yang chakra, which could account for some similarities with the power he received from the Sage.
But I wouldn't call Sasuke's power up fan service, especially since the history of Indra/Ashura was explained.
The Sage can only get a do-over if BOTH Naruto and Sasuke receive part of his power.
Plus the two of them know they need each other to seal Kaguya.
Sasuke's power is meant to complement Naruto's, not detract from it. At least until Kaguya is out of the picture.
 

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naruto said "Maybe it's because i got this power from the old man" he was going to have that power no matter what but the sage of six paths syn natural energy with the bjiuus for a full link he able to absorb unlimited source of natural energy, just like when kaguya was re-forming

but for sure he gave him the marks with breathes life
 

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i agree with naruto's special connection to the so6p. Naruto had access to kurama's yang chakra, which could account for some similarities with the power he received from the sage.
But i wouldn't call sasuke's power up fan service, especially since the history of indra/ashura was explained.
The sage can only get a do-over if both naruto and sasuke receive part of his power.
Plus the two of them know they need each other to seal kaguya.
Sasuke's power is meant to complement naruto's, not detract from it. At least until kaguya is out of the picture.

rep+ .
 

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It all building up to it,its ben Kishi plan all along. Its ben a long hard path for Naruto and He beginning to rep the the rewards.
 

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I guess I have to say I am sorry for saying that Sasuke's power is a fan service. However, I think I was kind of very nice compare to comment on Naruto these days.
 

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I guess I have to say I am sorry for saying that Sasuke's power is a fan service. However, I think I was kind of very nice compare to comment on Naruto these days.

lol just ignore those people, I know what you mean, but don't fall into their category. I almost did.
 

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Well, in this thread, there is no need to waste your time trying to say that I am a naruto fanboy because I am really a fanatic of Naruto's character. However, if you are tempted to say that I am a Narutotard, make sure you drop an intelligible argument to make this look like a discussion.

This being said, as the tone of title suggest, I am going to show something that connect Naruto strongly to Rikudo. Here, I am almost trying to deny that Rikudo gave any power to Naruto. My opinion is that Naruto already had his power in an immature state and when His Own Senjutsus was perfected after meeting the SO6P.


I. Unlike Sasuke's fan service power up, Naruto was already strongly connected to Rikudo.

You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images

As you can see above, before Naruto met the sage, Naruto already had a power that Kurama called the Six Paths'... This means that Naruto really had something connected to the six paths, or to Rikudo himself even before the meeting. I am not surprised that this something showed up the first time along with a sealing Jutsu. Moreover, it is important to notice that this power is not from Kurama, because we can see that this power is actually a poison to Kurama because it can suppress Kurama's chakra and destroy his bijudama instantly. My guess is that Naruto inherited something, a special chakra, from his mother - something that is like a very tough KKG that will awaken fully later. Remember Kushina could suppress Kurama with her chakra chain, and we know now that these chakra chain are actually an Uzumaki KKG.

Also, I said that Naruto's perfect Senjutsu is his own because Rikudo's Senjutsus is also the same as the toad Senjutsu. The reason I believe this is that Rikudo also knew someone called Gammamaru who gave him prophecy about Naruto. Thus, Naruto is not just Ashura's reincarnation, but was chosen by Ashura because of the quality of his vessel. See below for the evidences as Rikudo says that Naruto is the one who summoned his soul, etc.

In the leftmost middle panel, Rikudo affirmed that Naruto summoned his soul and conclude that Naruto was chosen by Ashura because he has something special.
You must be registered for see images

So a good reading shows that Naruto already had a special power that attracted Ashura to choose him as his reincarnation. What that special power is? I guess it is the same special power that Chyo could sense - a power that can change everything.

II. A better connection of Naruto to Rikudo, even before meeting Hagoromo

Most people think that Naruto did not have the power of the sun mark on his hand before meeting Rikudo. However, I think he did have it. Look at the following two images.

1. Naruto cancelled 5 bijudama with the power that was activated by using Kurama's chakra
You must be registered for see images

2. Rikudo certainly cancelled an attack from Kaguya in the past using the same technique Naruto used above
You must be registered for see images

As you can see, the two posture are the same in Naruto's fight against Obito and Hagoromo's fight against Kaguya in the flashback. While Naruto did not have the current sun mark, if you zoom Naruto's palm in the above image in (1.), you will see that Naruto had a dark mark in his palm with a dark sun mark, or a full moon since it is dark.

From the above, I am tempted to say that Rikudo only help Naruto activate his power. Rikudo did not give any new power to Naruto. If Rikudo gave a power to Naruto, then Naruto has not use that power yet.​

III. A matter of Birth

This section will be short. As we all know, Rikudo was born when his mother had the Shinju fruit power. Thus he was born with power inherited from his mother. Similarly, Naruto was born from Kushina who had the chakra of the Kyuubi inside her, and we could say the power of the Shinju as well (even though not quite the same).

So, again, unlike Sasuke, Naruto had one more connection to Rikudo - that is the context of their birth. While many people like to repeat the ignorant statement of Konoha citizen who did not know anything about Naruto, I think Naruto was actually born with chakra as well. That chakra is symbolize by the six marks on his face, Which connect him again to the number 6 as in SO6P.

IV. The other Sun, or the power of two Suns

Yeah. It is clear that Naruto has two suns: (1) his father, and (2) his mother. The question is to know who is the source of Ashura, and what the power of the other sun is. Well, let wait.

V. Conclusion

As I said in the title, this is a 681 warm up. I hope you enjoy how Naruto still has mysteries to reveals about his power. Unlike Sasuke whose power are fan service without any prior foreshadowing, Naruto's power of the six paths has been foreshadowed even before he met the Rikudo Sennin. Naruto had a special power before he met Hagoromo.

good read man ,but how Sasuke got his own power up?
 

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I guess I have to say I am sorry for saying that Sasuke's power is a fan service. However, I think I was kind of very nice compare to comment on Naruto these days.

Its ok. Edit your main post and remove it.
Actually by bashing sasuke, you make many people go away from the thread, which i am certain u dont want.

Onto the thread,
Naruto do not have any so6p power. That so6p power kyuubi said was coming from the seal which was initially used by minato which he learnt from the uzumaki clan.
Also, naruto is half uzumaki which is why he does not possess those chain power like kushina or karin have.

Same posture does not mean same technique.
I can give you a lot of images in which sasuke looks just like sage but it means nothing in the end.

It is pretty much a manga fact that both sasuke and naruto were literally given powers by so6p, kaguya further confirmed it when she saw sage's chakra in their body through byakugan.

Almost everything you said in this thread where just fanboy assumptions you made.

There is no need for you to hate on sasuke or prove how naruto is more close to so6p than sasuke because if anything , its sasuke who is more closer to so6p. Kabuto/orochimaru's special interest in sasuke in itself is proof of that.

There has been a time where sasuke have not shown any of his powers and naruto had shown all his powers, BM naruto and BSM naruto and all that.
At that time, it was sasuke who was continuously being bashed by fanboys and stupid shit like KM/SM naruto > EMS sasuke was coming up.

So it is a payback from sasuke fans who were tormented on the base during that era.
 

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I would like to congratulate you on making this groundbreaking realization, which will mark a completely new era in mankind history. Truly we have not seen a greater breakthrough in human history since the discovery of fire. I would also plea you to remember your everyday comrades when you become the most famous person alive, which is something that is eminent and near. From this point onward, we regular peasants may only bask in your illuminating and vast glory which will invigorate and inspire us to move forward and reach greater heights in an attempt to not fall behind you too much, even though none of us will ever be capable of comparison to your sheer majestic presence, much less your deeds, we lesser beings will be incinerated by your everlasting greatness if we do not advance ourselves.

I would also like you to remember who was it that first congratulated you on your remarkable achievement.


Hater hater must be a masterbated!
 

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Well, in this thread, there is no need to waste your time trying to say that I am a naruto fanboy because I am really a fanatic of Naruto's character. However, if you are tempted to say that I am a Narutotard, make sure you drop an intelligible argument to make this look like a discussion.

This being said, as the tone of title suggest, I am going to show something that connect Naruto strongly to Rikudo. Here, I am almost trying to deny that Rikudo gave any power to Naruto. My opinion is that Naruto already had his power in an immature state and when His Own Senjutsus was perfected after meeting the SO6P.


I. Unlike Sasuke's fan service power up, Naruto was already strongly connected to Rikudo.

You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images

As you can see above, before Naruto met the sage, Naruto already had a power that Kurama called the Six Paths'... This means that Naruto really had something connected to the six paths, or to Rikudo himself even before the meeting. I am not surprised that this something showed up the first time along with a sealing Jutsu. Moreover, it is important to notice that this power is not from Kurama, because we can see that this power is actually a poison to Kurama because it can suppress Kurama's chakra and destroy his bijudama instantly. My guess is that Naruto inherited something, a special chakra, from his mother - something that is like a very tough KKG that will awaken fully later. Remember Kushina could suppress Kurama with her chakra chain, and we know now that these chakra chain are actually an Uzumaki KKG.

Also, I said that Naruto's perfect Senjutsu is his own because Rikudo's Senjutsus is also the same as the toad Senjutsu. The reason I believe this is that Rikudo also knew someone called Gammamaru who gave him prophecy about Naruto. Thus, Naruto is not just Ashura's reincarnation, but was chosen by Ashura because of the quality of his vessel. See below for the evidences as Rikudo says that Naruto is the one who summoned his soul, etc.

In the leftmost middle panel, Rikudo affirmed that Naruto summoned his soul and conclude that Naruto was chosen by Ashura because he has something special.
You must be registered for see images

So a good reading shows that Naruto already had a special power that attracted Ashura to choose him as his reincarnation. What that special power is? I guess it is the same special power that Chyo could sense - a power that can change everything.

II. A better connection of Naruto to Rikudo, even before meeting Hagoromo

Most people think that Naruto did not have the power of the sun mark on his hand before meeting Rikudo. However, I think he did have it. Look at the following two images.

1. Naruto cancelled 5 bijudama with the power that was activated by using Kurama's chakra
You must be registered for see images

2. Rikudo certainly cancelled an attack from Kaguya in the past using the same technique Naruto used above
You must be registered for see images

As you can see, the two posture are the same in Naruto's fight against Obito and Hagoromo's fight against Kaguya in the flashback. While Naruto did not have the current sun mark, if you zoom Naruto's palm in the above image in (1.), you will see that Naruto had a dark mark in his palm with a dark sun mark, or a full moon since it is dark.

From the above, I am tempted to say that Rikudo only help Naruto activate his power. Rikudo did not give any new power to Naruto. If Rikudo gave a power to Naruto, then Naruto has not use that power yet.​

III. A matter of Birth

This section will be short. As we all know, Rikudo was born when his mother had the Shinju fruit power. Thus he was born with power inherited from his mother. Similarly, Naruto was born from Kushina who had the chakra of the Kyuubi inside her, and we could say the power of the Shinju as well (even though not quite the same).

So, again, unlike Sasuke, Naruto had one more connection to Rikudo - that is the context of their birth. While many people like to repeat the ignorant statement of Konoha citizen who did not know anything about Naruto, I think Naruto was actually born with chakra as well. That chakra is symbolize by the six marks on his face, Which connect him again to the number 6 as in SO6P.

IV. The other Sun, or the power of two Suns

Yeah. It is clear that Naruto has two suns: (1) his father, and (2) his mother. The question is to know who is the source of Ashura, and what the power of the other sun is. Well, let wait.

V. Conclusion

As I said in the title, this is a 681 warm up. I hope you enjoy how Naruto still has mysteries to reveals about his power. Unlike Sasuke whose power are fan service without any prior foreshadowing, Naruto's power of the six paths has been foreshadowed even before he met the Rikudo Sennin. Naruto had a special power before he met Hagoromo.

well considering the name is japanese i doubt that that is the case, but hey...
 
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