Do people really believe their in another dimension?

[Floydical]

People seem to be convinced Kaguya sent the battle to another dimension or, at the very least, transported them to some very odd location. I believe, on the other hand, that she simply created a new landscape. I mean when the landscape first changes, we see everyone fall downward:

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People might believe this implies they got teleported, but I believe it implies she is changing the landscape. I also think its clear that Tobirama and Hiruzen are now heading toward the battlefield in order to help them. Tobirama states that he's moving to find the source of the great chakra, implying they are still in the same location they were a few minutes ago:

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Conclusion:

They are not in another dimension. They did not even get transported to another part of the world. They are in the exact same location as they were before, Kaguya simply manipulated and altered the landscape to her will. This includes all of the ecology and architecture around them.

 

[Pestilence]

I agree.
They can't be too far if they could all sense them.
Unless she just ported to some lava mountain that's coincidentally close by?
Hope Kishi explains a bit more.

 

[Angelic.]

so she said she didnt want to fight on her nursery and ruined it just because? tobirama ''felt'' her, hiruzen says it dissapeared. translation was messy this week. did she also make a random tower too? she said she'd make them vanish and they did.

 

[Sasori]

I thought They couldn't sense the chakra anymore.

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And she must have changed a large amount of the area.

Also I like your idea.

 

[Floydical]

so she said she didnt want to fight on her nursery and ruined it just because? tobirama ''felt'' her, hiruzen says it dissapeared. translation was messy this week. did she also make a random tower too? she said she'd make them vanish and they did.

Can't help but think English is not your first language.

I think she called it her nursery because she considers it hers. She has the power of a god, if things get messed up she can fix it, or in this case, alter it.

Yes, Tobirama felt her chakra nearby, its the reason he's moving. Hiruzen was stating the fact that Madara's chakra disappeared.

Yes, she created the castle along with the rest of the landscape, that's the reason I included 'architecture' when I stated she changed the landscape.

 

[oShux]

That's what I believed. NB has been going down the toilet for a while so I don't even read threads that much anymore. This is actually the first I'm hearing of this and I'm surprised people have been thinking that.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

No they're faraway in the middle of a buncha mountains near inside an Active Volcano where kaguyas Palace is.

I would hope none still thinks they're in another dimension..

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[MAN OF SIN]

"Felt" is past tense being he is not feeling it anymore. Its already been stated to be in another dimension.

Hiruzen was stating the fact that Madara's chakra disappeared.

He doesn't mention Madara at all.

 

[Floydical]

No they're faraway in the middle of a buncha mountains near inside an Active Volcano where kaguyas Palace is.

I would hope none still thinks they're in another dimension..

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I disagree with you. I don't think they got teleported to her kingdom, rather she created a new landscape on the exact location they were fighting. This included creating the castle along with it, whether that's part of her home or not.

"Felt" is past tense being he is not feeling it anymore. Its already been stated to be in another dimension.

Hiruzen was referring to Madara's chakra.... so of course he's not feeling it anymore. They are running to the same location, therefore they must be in the same plane of existence.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

I disagree with you. I don't think they got teleported to her kingdom, rather she created a new landscape on the exact location they were fighting. This included creating the castle along with it, whether that's part of her home or not.



Hiruzen was referring to Madara's chakra.... so of course he's not feeling it anymore. They are running to the same location, therefore they must be in the same plane of existence.

Creating a new landscape would damage her "Nursery", She warped them to an isolated Mountainous region where her Castle is.

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He said he's going to where he FELT the huge chakra coming from, as in its not their anymore, he's trying to make sense of whats going on.

Hiruzen confirms that it suddenly dissapered.

So either they are in another dimension (which i doubt) or they were teleported to some faraway land

 

[Youngkhalifa]

Why is the sky white where they are?

 

[Youngkhalifa]

Creating a new landscape would damage her "Nursery", She warped them to an isolated Mountainous region where her Castle is.

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He said he's going to where he FELT the huge chakra coming from, as in its not their anymore, he's trying to make sense of whats going on.

Hiruzen confirms that it suddenly dissapered.

So either they are in another dimension (which i doubt) or they were teleported to some faraway land

Yes they cant be in the same location considering the color of the sky being white!

 

[Troyg39]

I like the effort but there is something you are not considering; there are two ways to read last chapter's events.

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You are taking this page and it's content all to have taken place after the fight sequence between Kaguya and Team 7 because this page clearly doesn't come up until after we saw a great deal go down between them.

However you take a look at this page, and carefully consider what was said, in order, in relevance to what we saw prior with the fight, it could be interpreted that the scan I showed you was happening during the fight. In fact, The words of the Kage, in order, mimic the events of Madara's end up until the appearance of the new dimension/landscape:

First, Hashirama says Madara's rods are disappearing. It's logical to assume that this could've began to take place when Madara was getting taken over.

Second, Tobirama says he just needs to reach the huge chaka source. Which could represent when Kaguya absorbed that massive amount of chakra before finishing her revival. Or it could represent any time period after her revival and before the new landscape.

Third, Hiruzen notes a sudden disappearance in what can be perceived as that same chakra source. Which this could be the point at which they got sent to a new dimension. He even said "but in his statement, meaning he was thinking something before this statement and before the chakra vanished. If Kishi was using the Kages' words like a train of thought, then Hiruzen was continuing the events spoken in Tobirama's words.

Don't get me wrong, I personally think Kaguya did just what Kakashi said, she summoned another dimension. They didn't get sent anywhere, she just changed the landscape as you said. She just got the landscape from a new dimension. However the opposition is more than plausible as well

 

[Angelic.]

cant help but to think you dont have a brain. theyre gone from tne alliance battleground...sky is different color.

i speak english well good thanku. youre trusting mangapanda which has tobirama saying the same line twice? ok then

 

[beast7960]

Listen here man, the text where hiruzen and tobirama were thinking to themselves were the same thought. The 2nd says to himself, all he has to do is follow the enormous chakra that he sensed, which was probably when Kaguya emerged from Madara. Continuing the same thought, Hiruzen says "...but the chakra has suddenly vanished", which is when she took them to the other dimension. It's all pretty simple people, you just have to use your heads a little.

 

[Floydical]

Creating a new landscape would damage her "Nursery", She warped them to an isolated Mountainous region where her Castle is.

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He said he's going to where he FELT the huge chakra coming from, as in its not their anymore, he's trying to make sense of whats going on.

Hiruzen confirms that it suddenly dissapered.

So either they are in another dimension (which i doubt) or they were teleported to some faraway land

Then why would Kishi show the kages at all? If they are not in the same dimension and cannot help the battle, why would they be shown running? Countless times we have not been shown the locations of characters because they serve no purpose in the current battle. Clearly the Kages will play a role here.

About the whole nursery thing, she's just mad that people are screwing up what she feels is hers, so she wants to kill them to be rid of them. She has the power of a god, she can mess it up a little then fix again later.

Yes they cant be in the same location considering the color of the sky being white!

If she has the power to change the landscape like that, she could have the power to create an external light source, a miniature sun if you will.

I like the effort but there is something you are not considering; there are two ways to read last chapter's events.

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You are taking this page and it's content all to have taken place after the fight sequence between Kaguya and Team 7 because this page clearly doesn't come up until after we saw a great deal go down between them.

However you take a look at this page, and carefully consider what was said, in order, in relevance to what we saw prior with the fight, it could be interpreted that the scan I showed you was happening during the fight. In fact, The words of the Kage, in order, mimic the events of Madara's end up until the appearance of the new dimension/landscape:

First, Hashirama says Madara's rods are disappearing. It's logical to assume that this could've began to take place when Madara was getting taken over.

Second, Tobirama says he just needs to reach the huge chaka source. Which could represent when Kaguya absorbed that massive amount of chakra before finishing her revival. Or it could represent any time period after her revival and before the new landscape.

Third, Hiruzen notes a sudden disappearance in what can be perceived as that same chakra source. Which this could be the point at which they got sent to a new dimension. He even said "but in his statement, meaning he was thinking something before this statement and before the chakra vanished. If Kishi was using the Kages' words like a train of thought, then Hiruzen was continuing the events spoken in Tobirama's words.

Don't get me wrong, I personally think Kaguya did just what Kakashi said, she summoned another dimension. They didn't get sent anywhere, she just changed the landscape as you said. She just got the landscape from a new dimension. However the opposition is more than plausible as well

First of all, you're under the assumption Madara's tools would dissolve immediately upon his death. It could have taken several minutes, if not longer, for that to happen so your analysis of the time this took place could be flawed.

Second, if you agree that they are not in another dimension and rather believe she summoned one, then why would she just summon one section of a world? she'd be destroying the world she took it from and leaves a part of the world missing. If so, was it switched with the land she replaced?

cant help but to think you dont have a brain. theyre gone from tne alliance battleground...sky is different color.

i speak english well good thanku. youre trusting mangapanda which has tobirama saying the same line twice? ok then

Considering the sky changing color was not your idea, rather one you stole considering you just updated your post, I wouldn't be using it in your argument. I'm not trusting mangapanda, I'm posting mangapanda because their scans won't disappear in a day. If I was trusting mangapanda I'd believe they were in another dimension.......want to try again?.

 

[Angelic.]

somebodies rustled.... cant wrap your brain around something in a manga?

 

[Seventh Sama]

No she teleported them somewhere, where they're at is sunny, while on the battlefield is still night time. Also the mangapanda translation is wrong becos tobirama repeats the same thing he said twice in that panel.

 

[kageking]

Their at a volcano with a tower/ ) castle structure on it.

 

[Troyg39]

First of all, you're under the assumption Madara's tools would dissolve immediately upon his death. It could have taken several minutes, if not longer, for that to happen so your analysis of the time this took place could be flawed.

Second, if you agree that they are not in another dimension and rather believe she summoned one, then why would she just summon one section of a world? she'd be destroying the world she took it from and leaves a part of the world missing. If so, was it switched with the land she replaced?

Actually no, I'm not. Instead of blindly responding, please at least try to read what I typed. My entire point revolves around the idea that the Kages' statements were meant to serve as a timeline depicting what was going on between Madara's end and the summoning of the new dimension. Clearly, you can see in the page that Madara's rods did not instantly disappear, so no I'm not under that assumption. I even said that Madara's rods are disappearing, meaning they were in a process of doing so. Had you read my comment with an open mind, you would've caught that the first time. My point was in fact that the statements as a whole took place over time. They didn't make their statements at once, rather they were made at different intervals in relation to the sequence of events on the battlefield. The fact that it took time for the rods to begin to disperse adds to what I'm saying. Indeed my analysis could still be flawed, but not for the reason you tried to convey.

As far as the rest goes, it really doesn't make much sense. My belief is that she "summoned" a new dimension by remodeling the surrounding land after the land in another world. Not that she literally took a piece out of a new dimension and brought it there. Even still, if she has the power to alter the surrounding land in the real world, I don't see why it's so hard for to believe that she could also alter another one to remain in tact at the same time. Whether she just made a "copy" of sorts of the other dimension, she swapped them out or just did a simple remodel, I highly doubt Kishi would just throw in the idea of it being a new dimension for nothing. That to me is a really absurd thing to believe but to each his/her own