[Discussion] My straw hat power scale with logic

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Begining zoro was low commodore level, he can match with current tashigi, not smoker since he does not have logia or any df, logia or any df makes certain ranks irelevant, remember kizaru was captain at one point.

Zoro takes a leap at alabasta with cutting steal and learns a few long distance attacks making him a better fighter, but only goes at leats high commodore lvl.

his final leap pts is cp9 wich leaps him to at least low rear admiral, since drake of the supernovas had this rank before he retired from marines and seems to match similar against a pasifista.

Begining Sanji would probably lose to don krieg making him fairly weak, at this point zoro is clearly supperior.

alabasta his skill leaps for some reason, i belive its because in begining he didint fight seariously to often and wasent use to it, but beating mr 2 was a pretty amazing feet for him since hes only one rank below mr 1 wo zoro beat extremly high diff, but he would still lose to zoro aand makes no improvemeent in skypia.

Final sanji pts
cp9 sanji learns new new moves and has his biggest leap in skill making him rank just bellow zoro or maybe even equal.

Beggining luffy was pretty weak,taking buggy high/mid diff and captain kuro high diff.but his skill with his df bosted him up, with physical strenght equal to ace in alabasta, luffy gradualy grows stronger with each enemy using his devil fruit to desive and confuse his enemies, luffy had NO KEY POINTS OF GROWTH until cp9 were he learned his gears, i belive this luffy could be considered low vice admiral for having defeated rob lucci, and thats minimum.

luffy has never lost the same battle twice, he learned gear second after he had fough aokiji, wich means it was in preperation to beat someone as strong as him and this was only in a few days of training.

Acter the 2 years all these characters took giant leeps,

sanji added techinque to his high strenght and haki wich makes him great to 1 v 1 any opponent, i belive he is the weakest among these 3.

Luffy learned armament/observation and kings haki wich bosted him up pretty high along with mastering his gears and incresed phisical strenght.

Zoro's training is mostly unckown but has some sort of haki and improved greatly in all attributes (not directions)

FINAL VERDICT: all 3 of these can 1 shot a pasifista, no diff.

Luffy: is lost his brother, and couldent protect his nakama he would not feel satisfied unless he could 1 v 1 an admiral, i dont belive he ever had a good reason to go all out in new world. at least LOW MID ADMIRAL

Zoro: Was humiliated by kuma, and has always been in par with luffy so while theres not much info i place him in same ranking as luffy.

Sanji:He clearly learned from eve,so unless he suprased it, hes about Low/mid VICE ADMIRAL or if surpased high.

Luffy did get punched by doffy but it was a supprise attack and luffy was nearly unharmed by it.

OH AND FYI FRANKY >>>>>>> PACIFISTA
 

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Luffy Can High diff Admirals 1 on 1.
Zoro is Below Admiral Above VA level.
Sanji is above VA level
 

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There is no way in the serious hell you read that already.

You know what's funny? I actually had read it, and completely agreed with you. I felt like there wasn't much more to say though haha
 

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- Start of manga til enies lobby: Luffy >= Zoro > Sanji > Franky = Robin > Chopper > Nami > Usop
- Enies Lobby til end of part1: Luffy > Zoro > Sanji > Franky > Robin > Chopper > Nami > Usop
- Post-timeskip: Luffy >= Zoro > Sanji> Franky > Robin > Chopper > Nami > Usop
 

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Good thread, although I really hate the use of ''Admiral Level'' since it's so broad.
Plus we have to see more from the Pacifista imo. Don't take em so lightly ;)
 

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One thing's for sure as far as my opinion is concerned...

Luffy >= Zoro > Sanji
 

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Luffy will by the and of the arc imo be 1 tier below admiral

Zoro is weaker than Luffy and Sanji weaker than Zoro, both gaps are relatively small

I don't really like your rankings since we are even hazy on admiral and VA tier, every other rank is completely unknown

Luffy 100
Zoro 93-95
Sanji ~90

Luffy has always been stronger than Zoro, (not counting pre ch. 1), Zoro fans need to stop having delusions, I am a Zoro fan too but I did in fact read the manga

The pacifista verdict is kinda weird (as a verdict) since we did in fact see them 1shot a pacifista in the manga :/
 
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Luffy has always been stronger than Zoro, (not counting pre ch. 1), Zoro fans need to stop having delusions, I am a Zoro fan too but I did in fact read the manga
Then you read the manga wrong. At Arlong park, both of them could have defeat Arlong. At whiskey peak, they fought equally. At skypiea he, Luffy and Wiper were on the same level and so on. They were equals at the start of the manga until enies lobby like i've said
 
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Luffy will by the and of the arc imo be 1 tier below admiral

Zoro is weaker than Luffy and Sanji weaker than Zoro, both gaps are relatively small

I don't really like your rankings since we are even hazy on admiral and VA tier, every other rank is completely unknown

Luffy 100
Zoro 93-95
Sanji ~90

Luffy has always been stronger than Zoro, (not counting pre ch. 1), Zoro fans need to stop having delusions, I am a Zoro fan too but I did in fact read the manga

The pacifista verdict is kinda weird (as a verdict) since we did in fact see them 1shot a pacifista in the manga :/

Are you mad?
Its...
Luffy - 100%
Zoro - 95%
Sanji - 75% or lower

The cook has been a fodder since the timeskip
Zoro trained with mihawk and sanji ran from queers

Sanji lost to vergo and was fodderized by doflamingo where else zoro is fighting pica and zoro was going to defeat doflamingo but fujitora made the save
 

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Then you read the manga wrong. At Arlong park, both of them could have defeat Arlong. At whiskey peak, they fought equally. At skypiea he, Luffy and Wiper were on the same level and so on. They were equals at the start of the manga until enies lobby like i've said

Arlong may have been the big fight of east blue but he was far from Luffy's hardest fight, ofc Zoro could also defeat him
At whiskey peak they fought for a second aand than got owned by Nami
On Skypiea viper owned them all at the start and than Luffy went his own separate way
They aren't equals

Luffy>Zoro>Sanji, the first rule of OP

Are you mad?
Its...
Luffy - 100%
Zoro - 95%
Sanji - 75% or lower

The cook has been a fodder since the timeskip
Zoro trained with mihawk and sanji ran from queers

Sanji lost to vergo and was fodderized by doflamingo where else zoro is fighting pica and zoro was going to defeat doflamingo but fujitora made the save

Are you aware that noone takes you seriously?

If Sanji is 75 than Zoro isn't more than 87.5

PS Zoro was gonna defeat Doflamingo but Fuji intervened? Lol, pathetic
 
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