[Discussion] My straw hat power scale with logic

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

I love chocking on zoro's diick

Fixed it for you

 

[-Akuma-]

I can sense the Zoro hate all the way from here!
Zoro 93 and Sanji 93-92?

Has sanji solod a ship? Has sanji solod hordy while underwater without an oxygen bubble?
Sanji was defeated by vergo and was fodderized by doflamingo

Zoro is cool and epic and he can solo sanji easy-med diff

Luffy - 100%
Zoro - 95%
Sanji - 75% or even lower

Sanji can solo a ship of fodder you dumbass, Sanji can blitz and one shot pill-less Hody. Zoro beat a pill-less Hody who's just above Arlong. Zoro loses to Vergo and get shat on by DD, he does just as bad as Sanji.


Sanji is equal or a bit weaker than Zoro. Zoro would win extreme-dif.


Luffy-100
Zoro-93
Sanji-93 or 92


I like Zoro alot and one of his feats you name are impressive.​

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Sanji can solo a ship of fodder you dumbass, Sanji can blitz and one shot pill-less Hody. Zoro beat a pill-less Hody who's just above Arlong. Zoro loses to Vergo and get shat on by DD, he does just as bad as Sanji.


Sanji is equal or a bit weaker than Zoro. Zoro would win extreme-dif.


Luffy-100
Zoro-93
Sanji-93 or 92


I like Zoro alot and one of his feats you name are impressive.​

Lol
Yea sure

And zoro can defeat vergo and doflamingo
Haki infused ashura gg
Haki infused sanzen sekai gg

 

[-Akuma-]

Lol
Yea sure

And zoro can defeat vergo and doflamingo
Haki infused ashura gg
Haki infused sanzen sekai gg

Zoro hasn't even shown coating, he would get wrecked.



Vergo full body hake shits on Zoro.
Overheat one shots.​

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Zoro hasn't even shown coating, he would get wrecked.



Vergo full body hake shits on Zoro.
Overheat one shots.​

Vergo was fodderized by law ok?
And the shc get stronger after every arc

Sabo>Luffy>Zoro>DD>Law>Pica>Hakuba>Vergo

Stop being a hater

 

[Red Swag]

Burgess is just a dumb muscle brain and those type of characters are just over confident and will always loose
Zoro>Vergo>Burgess>Smoker
Burgess is probably the weakest of the BB pirates

And yes zoro can defeat doflaningo
Haki infused ashura gg
Haki infused sanzen sekai gg

After the time skip zoro has never fought seriously and has been on a solo rampage
(solod hordy underwater,fodderized a ship and its crew and solod monet without haki)

Zoro is just cool and badass and every time he has a fight he would come up with an awsome quote that would solo his opponents

He causually stopped pica from going after luffy and he even made pica angry...and even doflamingo know's that an angry pica is dangerous

Zoro>Doffy high diff

Well damn?!

But burgess is the 3rd strongest in the crew doe.

Doflamingo beats zoro still.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Well damn?!

But burgess is the 3rd strongest in the crew doe.

Doflamingo beats zoro still.

Nope
Zoro was going to defeat doffy but fuji made the save

 

[deva pein]

Guys why don't we just neglect Aqeel96 when it comes to Zoro? He is riding his D way to hard, poor Zoro he must have a sore **** right now.

 

[A v i]

:dunno:using them numbers to indicate strength.

Only thing that I am sure about is that the gap b/w Zoro and Sanji is > the gap b/w Zoro and Luffy. Love cook considerably lags behind other 2 members of m3 when it comes to strength.

 

[-Akuma-]

Vergo was fodderized by law ok?
And the shc get stronger after every arc

Sabo>Luffy>Zoro>DD>Law>Pica>Hakuba>Vergo

Stop being a hater

Law is stronger than Zoro, and Lw's ability negates his haki and durability. Zoro is weaker than Law and he doesn't have his abilities, Vergo rapes.
So what he's still weaker than DD

Sabo>DD>Luffy=>Law>>Zoro.​

:dunno:using them numbers to indicate strength.

Only thing that I am sure about is that the gap b/w Zoro and Sanji is > the gap b/w Zoro and Luffy. Love cook considerably lags behind other 2 members of m3 when it comes to strength.

Where's your evidnce by this, If anything Sanji and Zoro are both lagging behind Luffy, while Zoro is only a bit stronger than Sanji while being considerable weaker than Luffy.​

 

[Bogard]

Where's your evidnce by this, If anything Sanji and Zoro are both lagging behind Luffy, while Zoro is only a bit stronger than Sanji while being considerable weaker than Luffy.​

I disagree. There is a clear gap between Zoro and Sanji and story-wise this gap will increase time after time because

1- Many people(including supernovas) sometimes wonder why Zoro isn't the captain
2- Zoro always defeat stronger opponents
3- Story-wise Oda decided to make Zoro part of the worse generation
4- Zoro has more potential as the worse generation are said to have the potential to smash previous generations gears
5- Zoro has greater ambition(strength-wise)
6- Bartolomeo(ultimate Strawhats fanboy) view him as the vice-captain of the crew
7- Sanji and Jinbe are paired to defeat a subordinate(in FI) when Zoro defeats a stronger opponent by himself
8- He is constantly getting paralleled to Luffy since the timeskip
9- Sanji's skirmiches with strong opponents always end bad for him when Zoro's skirmiches with stronger opponents always end in a stalemate
10- Zoro's real strength remains a mystery when Sanji already showed his limits

The bolded part are the most overlooked yet more important ones

 

[deva pein]

Where's your evidnce by this, If anything Sanji and Zoro are both lagging behind Luffy, while Zoro is only a bit stronger than Sanji while being considerable weaker than Luffy.​

[/QUOTE]

That was true before the timeskip around Enies Lobby. Oda distanced the two of them around Sabaody Archipelago and Zoro came closer to Luffy. He was called a Supernova there, just like Luffy but Sanji was left out. After the timeskip the difference is even bigger, since Oda is indirectly calling him the Vice-Captain, same jokes (meat/sake), same powerlevel/endurance etc.
I think he wants to slowly create a gap in power between Zoro and Sanji, and that wouldn't be a disaster for Sanji because he is more of a supporting character in the context of getting shyt done. Remember Mr. Prince?

 

[A v i]

Where's your evidnce by this, If anything Sanji and Zoro are both lagging behind Luffy, while Zoro is only a bit stronger than Sanji while being considerable weaker than Luffy.​

Lmao, I love this guy. Questions me about evidence and posts his own opinion without actually providing an evidence/an argument.I don't care about the gap b/w Luffy and Zoro but those two clearly left Sanji in dust after TS.Anyone with a lil brain can clearly understand this fact.

1) U know that Vergo would have owned Sanji without much difficulty right? but Zoro didn't received any kind of injuries when he went one on one against Pica.An opponent who is at the very least on the same level as Vergo.

2) Pica is the highest executive in family so he's apparently 2nd strongest in family means that his strength is only next to Joker which means that he's stronger than Vergo.It is clear as day Zoro'll be the one that defeats him.

3) Zoro confronted Fuji on more than one occasion yet didn't received much damage where as when Sanji tried to attack Joker he got owned by Joker. Note that Zoro only received damage from Fuji coz it was a surprise attack yet he recovered from it super quickly and attacked Fuji.

4) The amount of time they spent to increase their strength is more.

5) They have far better teachers than Sanji and they have more potential than him.

6) Luffy and Zoro only trained to get stronger where as Sanji needs to concentrate on cooking as well as increasing his strength.

7)As bogard already mentioned,His goal has nothing to do with being stronger where as their goals totally depends on their strength. I don't even get how exactly u guys can even think that Sanji is close to Zoro when Manga clearly suggests otherwise.

Now tell me your reasons.

 

[Underdog ninja]

Sanji is 75 or lower
The fodder got glory time only in water 7 arc!
The rest of the arcs he just fought fodders

Look at sanji after the time skip! He was so annoying in fishman arc with so many nosebleeds

Zoro is just plain badass and very cool! The way he talks is simply epic! He has awsome quotes as well

Sanji is probably equal to smoker

Currently in dressrosa
Sabo>Luffy>Zoro>DD>Law>Hakuba>Pica>Burgess>Trebol/Diamante

Even if luffy and zoro fight...luffy will win with extreme high diff and he might also loose an arm or a leg

Sanji didint officialy lose to vergo, thats like saying luffy lost to flamingo, and while sanji would most likely lose to flamingo what they did was no were near a serious fight.

 

[Olorin]

zoro is the strongest of them all

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#germanysoloedsohardtheyarenowwantedforrape

 

[Black Mamba]

I agree i also put Luffy slightly above. He is the captain after all

Here is my assumption

Luffy - 100
Zoro - 98
Sanji - 91

Luffy and Zoro are part of the worse generation and didn't go all out yet, so i think the gap with Sanji is a fair gap

luffy - 100
zoro - 90-95
sanji - 85-87

imo

 

[-Akuma-]

I disagree. There is a clear gap between Zoro and Sanji and story-wise this gap will increase time after time because

1- Many people(including supernovas) sometimes wonder why Zoro isn't the captain
2- Zoro always defeat stronger opponents
3- Story-wise Oda decided to make Zoro part of the worse generation
4- Zoro has more potential as the worse generation are said to have the potential to smash previous generations gears
5- Zoro has greater ambition(strength-wise)
6- Bartolomeo(ultimate Strawhats fanboy) view him as the vice-captain of the crew
7- Sanji and Jinbe are paired to defeat a subordinate(in FI) when Zoro defeats a stronger opponent by himself
8- He is constantly getting paralleled to Luffy since the timeskip
9- Sanji's skirmiches with strong opponents always end bad for him when Zoro's skirmiches with stronger opponents always end in a stalemate
10- Zoro's real strength remains a mystery when Sanji already showed his limits

The bolded part are the most overlooked yet more important ones

There is no clear gap between Zoro is barley stronger. but I'll admit he is stronger.

1- Him being confused for a captain doesn't really indicate strength as much, but he is seen as more level headed than Luffy aswell, which is a good trait in a captain it doesn't really indicate that Zoro is seen as strong as Luffy so he should be captain.

2- The opponents Zoro beat are only a bit stronger than Sanji's yet he struggles alot more (the expection for this rule would be Mr 1. and Mr.2 and Sanji's Thriller Bark opponent and Ryumma)

3- Bounty isn't a clear indication of strength and the only reason Zoro's bounty is higher than Sanji's is because he was a bounty hunter before joining Luffy while Sanji was a chef. Zoro's bounty shouldn't be a reason to say he's strong seeing as Sanji is stronger than many of the worst gen aswell.

4-Look at my post, Sanji is as strong and has as much potential as many of the worst gen.

5-True

6- Yeah he view as the VC but that doesn't really say he's stronger than the others. And as we have seen Zoro takes the stand more than Sanji.

7- Don't see how that's valid, Oda pretty much showed us that Sanji could have one shotted his foe.

8- He hasn't be paralleled with Luffy that much, the only thing I could think of is that they both apart of the worst gen That's it.

9- Lol Sanji always is hurt and injured before skirmishing with tough foes. While Zoro skirmished with Fuji and got beat easily, that isn't more impressive especially when you look at Fuji's intent. Fuji just wanted Zoro to back off and he could put down a hole by a causal attack, while a DD with the intent to kill constantly praised a already hurt Sanji. Sanji overall has performed better against the big dog under his circumstances.

10- Sanji's limits haven't been shown, because he is always hurt before hand or he is put against someone out of his league (DD). So neither of them have been able to go all out yet, while I'll admit we've seen more of Sanji thought,
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Lmao, I love this guy. Questions me about evidence and posts his own opinion without actually providing an evidence/an argument.I don't care about the gap b/w Luffy and Zoro but those two clearly left Sanji in dust after TS.Anyone with a lil brain can clearly understand this fact.

1) U know that Vergo would have owned Sanji without much difficulty right? but Zoro didn't received any kind of injuries when he went one on one against Pica.An opponent who is at the very least on the same level as Vergo.

2) Pica is the highest executive in family so he's apparently 2nd strongest in family means that his strength is only next to Joker which means that he's stronger than Vergo.It is clear as day Zoro'll be the one that defeats him.

3) Zoro confronted Fuji on more than one occasion yet didn't received much damage where as when Sanji tried to attack Joker he got owned by Joker. Note that Zoro only received damage from Fuji coz it was a surprise attack yet he recovered from it super quickly and attacked Fuji.

4) The amount of time they spent to increase their strength is more.

5) They have far better teachers than Sanji and they have more potential than him.

6) Luffy and Zoro only trained to get stronger where as Sanji needs to concentrate on cooking as well as increasing his strength.

7)As bogard already mentioned,His goal has nothing to do with being stronger where as their goals totally depends on their strength. I don't even get how exactly u guys can even think that Sanji is close to Zoro when Manga clearly suggests otherwise.

Now tell me your reasons.

1.) Vergo faced a already injured Sanji, while Pica wasn't seen going on the offensive against Zoro while Zoro was shown having a hard time trying to get past a rather defensive Pica. While Sanji most likely would of lost against Vergo, I don't see Zoro beating Pica when he's infused with the castle nor do I see Zoro beating Vergo.

2.) I can't disagree with that, thought Zoro can't beat Pica when he's infused with the rest of Dressrosa.

3.) Zoro confronted a Fuji with no killing intent and got owned twice by Fuji. While Sanji faced DD and constantly got praised form him. Fuji had no intent to badly harm the SH when they faced and he still got beat badly. Zoro's deafeat is worse than Sanji's.

4.) They both spent 2 years.

5.) No they have stronger teachers not better, I can firm;y say the Ray was most likely better than Ivan, while Mihwak wasn't even willing to teach Zoro at first. Don't know why you lot assume stronger=Better teacher.

6.) You do realise by Sanji training to get his recipes he needed to fight, it was said he spent his 2 years constantly running, they time he spent gaining those recipes involved him fighting. Dunno why you lot assume Sanji slacked off alot.

7.) I agreed with Bo. But the manga hasn't suggested that in fact it suggest otherwise, always showing them as rivals. If they really wanted to highlight that Oda would stop the rivalry.​

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

There is no clear gap between Zoro is barley stronger. but I'll admit he is stronger.

1- Him being confused for a captain doesn't really indicate strength as much, but he is seen as more level headed than Luffy aswell, which is a good trait in a captain it doesn't really indicate that Zoro is seen as strong as Luffy so he should be captain.

2- The opponents Zoro beat are only a bit stronger than Sanji's yet he struggles alot more (the expection for this rule would be Mr 1. and Mr.2 and Sanji's Thriller Bark opponent and Ryumma)

3- Bounty isn't a clear indication of strength and the only reason Zoro's bounty is higher than Sanji's is because he was a bounty hunter before joining Luffy while Sanji was a chef. Zoro's bounty shouldn't be a reason to say he's strong seeing as Sanji is stronger than many of the worst gen aswell.

4-Look at my post, Sanji is as strong and has as much potential as many of the worst gen.

5-True

6- Yeah he view as the VC but that doesn't really say he's stronger than the others. And as we have seen Zoro takes the stand more than Sanji.

7- Don't see how that's valid, Oda pretty much showed us that Sanji could have one shotted his foe.

8- He hasn't be paralleled with Luffy that much, the only thing I could think of is that they both apart of the worst gen That's it.

9- Lol Sanji always is hurt and injured before skirmishing with tough foes. While Zoro skirmished with Fuji and got beat easily, that isn't more impressive especially when you look at Fuji's intent. Fuji just wanted Zoro to back off and he could put down a hole by a causal attack, while a DD with the intent to kill constantly praised a already hurt Sanji. Sanji overall has performed better against the big dog under his circumstances.

10- Sanji's limits haven't been shown, because he is always hurt before hand or he is put against someone out of his league (DD). So neither of them have been able to go all out yet, while I'll admit we've seen more of Sanji thought,





1.) Vergo faced a already injured Sanji, while Pica wasn't seen going on the offensive against Zoro while Zoro was shown having a hard time trying to get past a rather defensive Pica. While Sanji most likely would of lost against Vergo, I don't see Zoro beating Pica when he's infused with the castle nor do I see Zoro beating Vergo.

2.) I can't disagree with that, thought Zoro can't beat Pica when he's infused with the rest of Dressrosa.

3.) Zoro confronted a Fuji with no killing intent and got owned twice by Fuji. While Sanji faced DD and constantly got praised form him. Fuji had no intent to badly harm the SH when they faced and he still got beat badly. Zoro's deafeat is worse than Sanji's.

4.) They both spent 2 years.

5.) No they have stronger teachers not better, I can firm;y say the Ray was most likely better than Ivan, while Mihwak wasn't even willing to teach Zoro at first. Don't know why you lot assume stronger=Better teacher.

6.) You do realise by Sanji training to get his recipes he needed to fight, it was said he spent his 2 years constantly running, they time he spent gaining those recipes involved him fighting. Dunno why you lot assume Sanji slacked off alot.

7.) I agreed with Bo. But the manga hasn't suggested that in fact it suggest otherwise, always showing them as rivals. If they really wanted to highlight that Oda would stop the rivalry.​

All you are doing is wanking sanji
There is no gap between zoro and sanji anymore ok? face reality

What? zoro cant defeat pica in dressrosa mode? Well he will ok! Just wait till the next chapter and stop reading your fanfiction

Zoro is just a little bit below luffy
Bounty does indicate strength

Out of the worst generation,its...
BB>Luffy>Kid>Zoro>Law>The Rest

 

[Black Mamba]

Burgess is just a dumb muscle brain and those type of characters are just over confident and will always loose
Zoro>Vergo>Burgess>Smoker
Burgess is probably the weakest of the BB pirates

And yes zoro can defeat doflaningo
Haki infused ashura gg
Haki infused sanzen sekai gg

After the time skip zoro has never fought seriously and has been on a solo rampage
(solod hordy underwater,fodderized a ship and its crew and solod monet without haki)

Zoro is just cool and badass and every time he has a fight he would come up with an awsome quote that would solo his opponents

He causually stopped pica from going after luffy and he even made pica angry...and even doflamingo know's that an angry pica is dangerous

Zoro>Doffy high diff

I am a huge zoro fan, but i don't believe he can beat doffy just yet.

doffy > Zoro high diff

but who knows we haven't seen him at 100% yet

 

[A v i]

I am a huge zoro fan, but i don't believe he can beat doffy just yet.

doffy > Zoro high diff

but who knows we haven't seen him at 100% yet

Joker owns Zoro mid dif or a lil above.:dunno:

All you are doing is wanking sanji
There is no gap between zoro and sanji anymore ok? face reality

What? zoro cant defeat pica in dressrosa mode? Well he will ok! Just wait till the next chapter and stop reading your fanfiction

Zoro is just a little bit below luffy
Bounty does indicate strength

Out of the worst generation,its...
BB>Luffy>Kid>Zoro>Law>The Rest

Nah, It is BB>>Luffy </=/> Kid >/=Law > Zoro.

1.) Vergo faced a already injured Sanji, while Pica wasn't seen going on the offensive against Zoro while Zoro was shown having a hard time trying to get past a rather defensive Pica. While Sanji most likely would of lost against Vergo, I don't see Zoro beating Pica when he's infused with the castle nor do I see Zoro beating Vergo.

2.) I can't disagree with that, thought Zoro can't beat Pica when he's infused with the rest of Dressrosa.

3.) Zoro confronted a Fuji with no killing intent and got owned twice by Fuji. While Sanji faced DD and constantly got praised form him. Fuji had no intent to badly harm the SH when they faced and he still got beat badly. Zoro's deafeat is worse than Sanji's.

4.) They both spent 2 years.

5.) No they have stronger teachers not better, I can firm;y say the Ray was most likely better than Ivan, while Mihwak wasn't even willing to teach Zoro at first. Don't know why you lot assume stronger=Better teacher.

6.) You do realise by Sanji training to get his recipes he needed to fight, it was said he spent his 2 years constantly running, they time he spent gaining those recipes involved him fighting. Dunno why you lot assume Sanji slacked off alot.

7.) I agreed with Bo. But the manga hasn't suggested that in fact it suggest otherwise, always showing them as rivals. If they really wanted to highlight that Oda would stop the rivalry.​

Everything u have been doing is just trying to explain how Zoro's feats aren't that great.But I want u to tell me why u think Sanji is only a lil weaker than Zoro.