[Discussion] Kenpachi got defeated without remove his eyes patch?

[Shiroyasha]

First off the Quincy ichigo are fighting are not stronger than gremmy mabey they are if they use vollstanding all together..second, kenpachi still has his eye patch on that's holding power back play we don't even know wat his shikai does...an I would say Byakuya an kenpachi are even or kenpachi is stronger.

It doesn't matter if Kenpachi still has his eye patch on. What's the point of having so much power if your boy can't take it?? Do you really think Kenpachi would be able to use the power from his eye patch after the beating that Gremmy gave him? His body has been though a lot since the beginning of the fight, and it'll crumble if he forces himself to fight. Byakuya is literally above Kenpachi now. Are you trying to say that even after his training with the Royal Guard, he'll be weaker than Kenpachi? I think not.
Kenpachi's Shikai probably doesn't have any special abilities. It's just raw power, pure destructive force. Well, that's my opinion anyways.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

It doesn't matter if Kenpachi still has his eye patch on. What's the point of having so much power if your boy can't take it?? Do you really think Kenpachi would be able to use the power from his eye patch after the beating that Gremmy gave him? His body has been though a lot since the beginning of the fight, and it'll crumble if he forces himself to fight. Byakuya is literally above Kenpachi now. Are you trying to say that even after his training with the Royal Guard, he'll be weaker than Kenpachi? I think not.
Kenpachi's Shikai probably doesn't have any special abilities. It's just raw power, pure destructive force. Well, that's my opinion anyways.

No I was just saying that we don't know kenpachi full strenght yet..yea Byakuya went threw royal guard training but kenpachi is just a monster he beat one of the strongest Quincy while holding back a lot of his power..

An going off the fact kenpachi says "swallow" nozarashi I'm guessing it is more to it than just pure destruction power.

An going off ur fist post yea they said they overestimated kenpachi but that was the first time they fought him while he was weak he has grown way more stronger now.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

he was beat by lightning....LOL

 

[Shiroyasha]

No I was just saying that we don't know kenpachi full strenght yet..yea Byakuya went threw royal guard training but kenpachi is just a monster he beat one of the strongest Quincy while holding back a lot of his power..

An going off the fact kenpachi says "swallow" nozarashi I'm guessing it is more to it than just pure destruction power.

An going off ur fist post yea they said they overestimated kenpachi but that was the first time they fought him while he was weak he has grown way more stronger now.

It doesn't matter if Kenpachi is a ''Monster''. He has limits, which means his growth potential is very limited. Kenpachi is a very reckless fighter. He takes unnecessary hits just cause he can, to show off that he's ''Strong''. He ''Holds Back'' to enjoy his fights which i'm surprised hasn't killed him, of course we all know he can't use Kido. He might have a very strong Reiatsu, but that won't guarantee his victory in a fight would it? And Gremmy was just ONE of the Strongest that they've faced, he's probably nothing compared to Haschwalth. Gremmy was quite arrogant because he proclaimed that he's probably the Strongest Sternritter. This is probably the last power up that Kenpachi is going to get unless Kubo decides to bring up something new. Oh well, as i stated in my previous post, this is only my opinion which i'm entitled to. I'm not going to force my ideals upon you.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

It doesn't matter if Kenpachi is a ''Monster''. He has limits, which means his growth potential is very limited. Kenpachi is a very reckless fighter. He takes unnecessary hits just cause he can, to show off that he's ''Strong''. He ''Holds Back'' to enjoy his fights which i'm surprised hasn't killed him, of course we all know he can't use Kido. He might have a very strong Reiatsu, but that won't guarantee his victory in a fight would it? And Gremmy was just ONE of the Strongest that they've faced, he's probably nothing compared to Haschwalth. Gremmy was quite arrogant because he proclaimed that he's probably the Strongest Sternritter. This is probably the last power up that Kenpachi is going to get unless Kubo decides to bring up something new. Oh well, as i stated in my previous post, this is only my opinion which i'm entitled to. I'm not going to force my ideals upon you.

I mean you read what shinji said about zaraki..there's a reason why he's on the speacial war potential list...he cut threw a giant meteor without trouble an took major hits from gremmy that most other captians can't even dream of tanking...even Yama did not want him to reach the power he has now.

Right now if I was asked who is stronger ichigo or zaraki I would say idk it's to hard to tell.

 

[Tapey]

I mean you read what shinji said about zaraki..there's a reason why he's on the speacial war potential list...he cut threw a giant meteor without trouble an took major hits from gremmy that most other captians can't even dream of tanking...even Yama did not want him to reach the power he has now.

Right now if I was asked who is stronger ichigo or zaraki I would say idk it's to hard to tell.

I agree with bold, currently speaking it is impossible to tell who is stronger between the two, because they just have not shown all of their abilities/ gone all out. By the end though I think Ichigo will be stronger though only because he is the main character.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

I agree with bold, currently speaking it is impossible to tell who is stronger between the two, because they just have not shown all of their abilities/ gone all out. By the end though I think Ichigo will be stronger though only because he is the main character.

Yea I guess ichigo will be the strongest in the end ..I'm just waiting for Byakuya an yourichi to go to battle.