[Discussion] Kenpachi got defeated without remove his eyes patch?

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I applaud your ignorance; It's obvious that he wasn't going full out- for reasons he has said in the past.

Yes, i agree with that. BUT what made you think that Kenpachi after removing eyepatch would make huge difference and you're going so deep to call someone "Degenerate"??
 

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Yes, i agree with that. BUT what made you think that Kenpachi after removing eyepatch would make huge difference and you're going so deep to call someone "Degenerate"??

I wish I had the patience to bust out the manga panels but I'm indolent as hell. Also once you've been on Nb as long as I've(this is my alt), 'degenerate' becomes the common word to describe the people on here. Perhaps a little extreme in some instances.

Anyway there're a couple of manga panels which suggests or explains how much of a power up the eye patch is; people can't stand in front of him without shaking, now that he has bankai too; it's not difficult to construct the puzzle.
 

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I wish I had the patience to bust out the manga panels but I'm indolent as hell. Also once you've been on Nb as long as I've(this is my alt), 'degenerate' becomes the common word to describe the people on here. Perhaps a little extreme in some instances.

Anyway there're a couple of manga panels which suggests or explains how much of a power up the eye patch is; people can't stand in front of him without shaking, now that he has bankai too; it's not difficult to construct the puzzle.

Not mine post:

It works the same if it's indeed the same eyepatch, but he left his eyepacth so it may be a different one and may be there for fashion reason.... So there is a place for confusion here.... Also there is nothing confusing about the fact that if it's the old eyepatch it will give Kenny just a small powerup because it will be able to seal just a smal fraction of his current power.... Untill Kubo will forget about the fact that he needs to give Kenny a new eyepatch for it to seal more power the eyepatch powerup should be small.


If we estimate that

Old Kenpachi with eyepatch = around Captain level in Shikai and
Old Kenpachi without eyepatch = around Captaine level in Bankai
that doesn't mean that current Kenpachi without eyepatch will be 5-10 times stronger than version that fought Gremmy.

*5-10 times since bankai increase users power by that margin
 
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can't really unleash your full power if you can't move...anyone ever think of that?
 
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He is not to weak they are waiting for a better time to show him take off his eye patch and to show his ban Kai.
The last chapter showed that when they mentioned how they needed him and without him they could be screwed.
Also they have Ichigo land where he is so you know Ichigo ain't bout to let kenpachi die.
Plus dont forget they attacked him after a fight and after he realized his girl with the pink hair can't remember her name right now but she's gone maybe dead and you know that ****ed him up as well as seeing his squad get trashed.
Kenpachi will be back and be better then ever watch n see!!
 

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If I'm not mistaken, Kenpachi's training was so he could unlock his full potential. I'm sure he is still holding back a large amount of his reacquired power behind that eye patch but there could be a reason to it, maybe releasing it could do more than just increase his power. It could be something that would damage everything around him upon release or it could be a fail safe against something & he would rather save it for that moment (being the all out fighter he is, he would rather use it on someone worthy). I am sure their were some last words said between him & uno we have yet to see that stopped him from recklessly fighting & releasing his full potential over a bunch of -soon to be fodder- enemies. Also, by the looks of things, he was not at all interested in fighting those girls as much as looking for Yachiru & distraction can bring done the strongest of fighters.
 

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It was very disappointing that Keni lost.
 

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Well there was no reason to take off the eye patch against the imagination guy because that wasn't a battle of strength and he wasn't able to cut him down. Eventually he killed himself and Kenpachi just outlasted him.

But as said in the latest chapter, if Kenpachi falls we will lose this war, meaning his role isn't over. He will probably get healed and cut some more guys down.
 

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Well there was no reason to take off the eye patch against the imagination guy because that wasn't a battle of strength and he wasn't able to cut him down. Eventually he killed himself and Kenpachi just outlasted him.

But as said in the latest chapter, if Kenpachi falls we will lose this war, meaning his role isn't over. He will probably get healed and cut some more guys down.

Never said we will lose the war he said might lose the war.
 

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Point remains the same, Kenpachi is essential and he still has a role in the rest of the war.

Naw not really ichigo is here now so that role probaly don't matter any more plus more help will be arriving soon..but yea I see kenpachi fighting again.
 

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If Kenpachi is a fail safe for the war, its to do with Ichigo. Shunsei (new capt commander) said Ichigo cant return to the real world because of his powers and their devastating potential now that theyve been unlocked. Ichigo is the key to either side winning if he gets convinced/manipulated. Ichigo is the Trump Card and Kenpachi is the backup Wild Card. So Shunsei had Kenpachi train to get his bankai just in case they needed to take Ichigo out if that happens. Im sure Kenpachi will also be needed to fight other super boss Quincy's as well.
 

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If Kenpachi is a fail safe for the war, its to do with Ichigo. Shunsei (new capt commander) said Ichigo cant return to the real world because of his powers and their devastating potential now that theyve been unlocked. Ichigo is the key to either side winning if he gets convinced/manipulated. Ichigo is the Trump Card and Kenpachi is the backup Wild Card. So Shunsei had Kenpachi train to get his bankai just in case they needed to take Ichigo out if that happens. Im sure Kenpachi will also be needed to fight other super boss Quincy's as well.

Ichigo might not be able to return. Ichigo and Kenpachi, along with Aizen and other two Special war powers is indeed trump card for both sides, that's why they are part of Special War Potentials in the first place. ;)
 
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Kenpachi is definately essential in this war.....more than ichigo even in fact for the sole reason that he is a beast that shit on the likes of quincies and turn them into mere pixie dusts.
 

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Kenpachi is definately essential in this war.....more than ichigo even in fact for the sole reason that he is a beast that shit on the likes of quincies and turn them into mere pixie dusts.

I agree; he doesn't hold back where Ichigo does, plus it's not like anyone can really hold him back anyway.
 

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Izanagi is more of changing someones destiny and yes bleach is not as good as it once was D:
 

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There's a reason why Ichigo is #1 on the Special War Potentials List. Heck, even fake Juha said they overestimated Kenpachi. The Only person who stands a chance against Juha right now is Ichigo, it's as simple as that. Kenpachi might have his eye patch or ''two hands'' or even his Shikai, but that doesn't change the fact that Ichigo has heavily outclassed him. Just look at Ichi now, the guy's soloing four quincies and he doesn't even look worried. And this is him toying around with them. Just accept it. No matter how strong Kenpachi gets, Ichigo will always be two steps ahead. Heck, even Byakuya with his Royal Guard training is stronger than Kenpachi.
 

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Degenerate; read before you spout your rubbish. Had he removed his eye patch it would of eradicated those insects.
With this logic you should be in jail like the guy in your avatar.
 

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There's a reason why Ichigo is #1 on the Special War Potentials List. Heck, even fake Juha said they overestimated Kenpachi. The Only person who stands a chance against Juha right now is Ichigo, it's as simple as that. Kenpachi might have his eye patch or ''two hands'' or even his Shikai, but that doesn't change the fact that Ichigo has heavily outclassed him. Just look at Ichi now, the guy's soloing four quincies and he doesn't even look worried. And this is him toying around with them. Just accept it. No matter how strong Kenpachi gets, Ichigo will always be two steps ahead. Heck, even Byakuya with his Royal Guard training is stronger than Kenpachi.

First off the Quincy ichigo are fighting are not stronger than gremmy mabey they are if they use vollstanding all together..second, kenpachi still has his eye patch on that's holding power back play we don't even know wat his shikai does...an I would say Byakuya an kenpachi are even or kenpachi is stronger.
 
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