[Question] How great is the gap between Zoro and Vista?

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I think there is a pretty big gap, but in like two more arcs we will know for sure.

I do believe he can beat Shiliew
 

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Mihawks casual swings can split icebergs. If Vista's swords didn't break while clashing against Mihawk, unless Mihawk was holding back, it means either he possess sufficient strength to block these kind of slashes or enough haki to shield against them. In this way, i can see Vista winning mid difficulty at most if i'm generous because it can easily be low difficulty
 

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Vista would high-diff. Zoro in a fight (Pre-TS Vista vs. Post-TS Zoro)
 

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Hmm...tough one.

It depends really I think Vista is stronger than Zoro but by how much really isn't certain. Mihawk was shown to be let's say 'half serious' with Vista but at the same time we can't discredit Vista either since I'm sure he wasn't going all out either.

I'd say the Gap is probably about the same as say Sanji and Jimbei, I'm sure Jimbei would win but Sanji would put up a fight...that's honestly the best comparison I can give with Zoro and Vista.
 

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Sentoryuu.... ONI GIRIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!! = dead vista. haha jp.

And it still hasnt shown any Haki feats for Zoro yet, right??
 

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Sentoryuu.... ONI GIRIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!! = dead vista. haha jp.

And it still hasnt shown any Haki feats for Zoro yet, right??

Zoro has shown haki and same goes for Vista.
 

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Sentoryuu.... ONI GIRIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!! = dead vista. haha jp.

And it still hasnt shown any Haki feats for Zoro yet, right??
Not enough, which is funny considering it's supposed to be his speciality. But he showed some glimpes in his haki air slash against Monet and maybe the barrier against Hyouzou as well
 

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Not enough, which is funny considering it's supposed to be his speciality. But he showed some glimpes in his haki air slash against Monet and maybe the barrier against Hyouzou as well

And at the end of FI.
 

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we haven't seen either of their full powers, but ill say post timeskip zoro > pre timeskip vista
 

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Ah you meant observation? I already knew that then, but i was talking about armament. He already showed observation quite some times(against Caribou like on the video, against Vergo, against Pica recently and maybe in Neptune's castle)
 

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Ah you meant observation? I already knew that then, but i was talking about armament. He already showed observation quite some times(against Caribou like on the video, against Vergo, against Pica recently and maybe in Neptune's castle)
Oh mb, I thought you were just talking about haki in general. Wait when did Zoro show armament? Besides the Monet fight...
 

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Mihawks casual swings can split icebergs. If Vista's swords didn't break while clashing against Mihawk, unless Mihawk was holding back, it means either he possess sufficient strength to block these kind of slashes or enough haki to shield against them. In this way, i can see Vista winning mid difficulty at most if i'm generous because it can easily be low difficulty

Good point, if Vista was able to fight like that with Mihawk then that deff says something.
 

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Hmm...tough one.

It depends really I think Vista is stronger than Zoro but by how much really isn't certain. Mihawk was shown to be let's say 'half serious' with Vista but at the same time we can't discredit Vista either since I'm sure he wasn't going all out either.

I'd say the Gap is probably about the same as say Sanji and Jimbei, I'm sure Jimbei would win but Sanji would put up a fight...that's honestly the best comparison I can give with Zoro and Vista.

That's actaully a great comparison, good job bro
 

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Oh mb, I thought you were just talking about haki in general. Wait when did Zoro show armament? Besides the Monet fight...
Only against Monet for sure. Possibly against Hyouzou. He talked about a barrier-thing and the barrier is a variation of armament haki
 

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Yea but not enough for us to say how strong he is with it

Vista is stronger. It'd sound pretty stupid if a haki newbie is already better than a new world "veteran" who's presumably known haki for a while. As for the gap, I'd say it's not that huge. I'm pretty sure once we finish the wano arc & assuming Zoro learns a few techniques then he'd be on par if not slightly stronger than pre-TS Vista. Post-TS Vista is much stronger than Zoro and that goes for all the WB members. They're probably training to avenge WB's death.
 

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Vista is stronger. It'd sound pretty stupid if a haki newbie is already better than a new world "veteran" who's presumably known haki for a while. As for the gap, I'd say it's not that huge. I'm pretty sure once we finish the wano arc & assuming Zoro learns a few techniques then he'd be on par if not slightly stronger than pre-TS Vista. Post-TS Vista is much stronger than Zoro and that goes for all the WB members. They're probably training to avenge WB's death.

I know Vista is stronger, i was saying we don't know enough about Zoro's haki to say how strong he is with it.
 
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