Manga Proof: Why Sasuke's Teleportation is far inferior to the Hiraishin no Jutsu!!

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Minato was able to teleport when obito was trying use to take obito to other dimension
In the scan given below,it clearly says that interdimensional traveling is too slow.

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so i guess u r wrong abt that part of ur theory.Its a manga fact
In the scan given below,naruto got the head start, still sasuke was the one to get behind kaguya.Sasuke travelled long distance in shorter period of time compared to naruto.

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If u look at the image,u will understand that naruto had his staff raised while running towards kaguya.Its only ur assumption that naruto was abt to attack kaguya.Its not clearly shown in manga
FTG are no match for juubi jin madara

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Minato used FTG and got stomped by madara

Sasuke's teleportation is faster as juubijin madara struggled against his quickness

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the above image shows one of sasuke's teleportation ability

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Sasuke was able to avoid madara's attack and also was able to cut him into 2.
So its fair to say S/T technique is faster than FTG
u said obito's kamui is on par with speed of light.Well that might be true but that doesnt mean much.
For juubi jin madara,kamui is a slow attack

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But sasuke's S/T was fast enough to cut madara into 2.Even madara said sasuke is fast

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For juubijin madara,FTG and Kamui are both slow while S\T is fast.
I guess u r wrong abt FTG being faster than S\T.After all,S\T is the power given by SO6P.

Range
I got to agree with u

There are lots of advantages and disadvantages in both FTG and S\T.UR theory seems biased.
U said FTG escapes everything but FTG user got stomped by madara while sasuke escaped him.Thats the dumbest thing i ever heard.Ability to avoid a certain attack doesnt mean it can avoid everything.FTG was useless against Juubijin.He certainly didnt avoid getting stomped
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What you are failing to see is Naruto is still in the same pose and is no closer than the middle panel. We are seeing him from a different angle so he just looks closer.

If you look at where sasuke lands, he is below obito's feet. We wouldn't have been able to see him land anyways, so you can't say he didn't make it instantly.
Btw sasuke actually had to go farther than naruto and started later.

We all know naruto is one of the fastest in the manga anyway.
I think u should re-read the manga again.It clearly stated in the manga that interdimensional travelling is too slow.So minato was able to use FTG against a slow attack.Its not a big deal.
Enough proofs to say ur thread is stupid.
Worst of all is comparing obito to kaguya to explain escapism.Thats what makes this thread really dumb

One more reason y i see this thread a failed one.

FTG worked on obito and other ninjas but it didnt work on Godara
Sasuke's S/T worked on godara.

Only thing,one can say is that FTG is techniques that can work on ninjas(kages included) only and not god like figures like godara
Sasuke's S/T is a technique that works on every ninjas in NV including godara.That itself make sasuke's S/T superior to FTG
 
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Ftg
Weakness : destroy the marking make you cann't perform ftg
Strong. : doesn't have range problem

Sasuke "blink" no jutsu
Weakness : short range
Strong. : doesn't need marking
 

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le sasuke after getting his Space Time
sasuke: Lord Tobirama my Space Time ninjutsu sucks. please teleport me to madara, thank you
Tobirama: done
 

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I think u should re-read the manga again.It clearly stated in the manga that interdimensional travelling is too slow.So minato was able to use FTG against a slow attack.Its not a big deal.
You moron that was Obito talking about Kamui Lol

Again you have not proved jack shit, everything as shown in the manga confirms that Hiraishin is above Sasuke's Teleportation, blind wanking will get you nothing.

Sasuke used his S/T techniques in last 4-5 chapters only.Dont u think u should wait for some more chapters before analysing sasuke's S/T' s full power.
Not really, it was enough given my grasping power U_U

Sasuke dodged TBBRS WITHOUT USING S/T Technique
I said blast radius, read before you post

le sasuke after getting his Space Time
sasuke: Lord Tobirama my Space Time ninjutsu sucks. please teleport me to madara, thank you
Tobirama: done
XD
 

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I think u should re-read the manga again.It clearly stated in the manga that interdimensional travelling is too slow.So minato was able to use FTG against a slow attack.Its not a big deal.
You moron that was Obito talking about Kamui Lol

Again you have not proved jack shit, everything as shown in the manga confirms that Hiraishin is above Sasuke's Teleportation, blind wanking will get you nothing.

Sasuke used his S/T techniques in last 4-5 chapters only.Dont u think u should wait for some more chapters before analysing sasuke's S/T' s full power.
Not really, it was enough given my grasping power U_U

Sasuke dodged TBBRS WITHOUT USING S/T Technique
I said blast radius, read before you post

le sasuke after getting his Space Time
sasuke: Lord Tobirama my Space Time ninjutsu sucks. please teleport me to madara, thank you
Tobirama: done
XD
 

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You moron that was Obito talking about Kamui Lol

Again you have not proved jack shit, everything as shown in the manga confirms that Hiraishin is above Sasuke's Teleportation, blind wanking will get you nothing.



Not really, it was enough given my grasping power U_U



I said blast radius, read before you post



XD
Look at the first 2 points u made in ur thread,dumbass.U said kamui is as fast as speed of light and minato's FTG was able to teleport surpassing kamui.
In the scan i provided,i proved that kamui is way slower.That means surpassing kamui is not a big deal.

u moron compare FTG with obito's kamui.For godara,both are slow attacks.
Sasuke's S/T was able to blitz madara.

FTG works on elite ninjas including kages but it didnt work on godara,Dumbass.While sasue blitz madara and even madara said that sasuke is really fast,Moron.
Sasuke's S/T worked on godlike figure unlike FTG,dumbass

The panels u used to describe escapism of both minato and sasuke is the funniest.
Minato managed to escape from obito while sasuke get caught by kaguya.

u r dumb enough to compare obito to kaguya's ability

Get a life kid
 
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In this thread I'll be using nothing but pure manga scans, there will be a speed comparison as well as technique characteristic comparison. I think many already know that Hiraishin no jutsu is far Superior to Sasuke's Rinnegan teleportation but nobody had made an in-depth analysis so here we are.

One more thing to be cleared before we move any further,

Hiraishin no Jutsu aka the Flying Thunder God technique aka the Flying Raijin technique and it's variants are used by the Fourth Hokage Minato and the Second Hokage Tobirama. The fourth Hokage modeled his technique after the second Hokage but his is slightly different and more advanced! The seal that Minato uses differs from the seal used by Tobirama and if Minato allows Tobirama to use the chakra link Tobirama could use Minato's markings and vice-versa.

Sasuke's Teleportation is his Rinnegan technique the one he achieved by the powerup given to him the Hagoromo aka the Sage of the Sixth Paths!

For simplicity purpose I'll use Minato mainly and not Tobirama.




Now I'll explain the workings of Hiraishin, the special attributes of Hiraishin and then you'll see how it's above Sasuke's Teleportation.




The Speed of Hiraishin:

The Hiraishin no jutsu is the " " technique used by the fourth Hokage. It's "instant" as in faster than the speed of light! There's nothing faster that the Hiraishin, absolutely nothing.

Here we see Zetsu confirming that Prime Obito's Kamui is on par with speed of Light

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Here we see Minato surpassing the Kamui's speed via his Hiraishin no jutsu! Obito even comments on it

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The Hiraishin no jutsu is without any doubt the fastest technique in the NV. We saw it's usefulness when Minato teleported Madara's Onmyoudon spheres in mid-battle that too when the 8th gateed Gai was charging at max speed

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It was so fast that . The Onmyoudon spheres [whilst being in ]

Now one might wonder why I focused so much on the speed when it's instant? Well with this speed comparison I was able to clarify that even in the "teleportation" techniques one can be faster than other. As we saw in Kamui's and Hiraishin's case. But what does this have to do with Sasuke's teleportation? Well look below,

The speed of Sasuke's Teleportation:

Here we see that Naruto has already left his spot and is halfway from his target, [in that same moment Sasuke prepared his technique, meaning it has a slight prep-time]

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Now observe the following two scans

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As you can see Sasuke has teleported to his target but did you notice Naruto? Naruto too had reached his target. Now what does that tell us? That Sasuke's Teleportation speed within his teleportation radius [you'll see explanation below] from preparing his Teleportation to landing an attack is roughly on Par with Naruto's speedblitz.

Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

It's too simple actually, as we got the manga confirmation above that Sasuke's Teleportation speed [which can only be used in certain radius] is on par or slightly above Naruto's Speedblitz which itself isn't even close to the speed of light or the Hiraishin speed.

I'll show you how things work when the Hiraishin is used! Observe the following page,

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As you can see Tobirama is with Juubito in that panel and in the next panel he's used the Hiraishin, everything even the pattern of the Enton or even Juubito's expression has remained the same only Tobirama who used the Hiraishin is out of there! This is how Hiraishin is, Sasuke's teleportation can't match it's speed U_U




The Range of Hiraishin:

As we've seen and known from the start that Hiraishin's range can be infinite. As long as there's a Hiraishin-marking to teleport Minato/Tobirama can teleport to it.

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Here we see Minato has teleported to Konoha which is on the other side of the Ninja-Continent with a speed that is greater than the speed of light as seen above!


The Range of Sasuke's Teleportation:

As seen and with said conformation from Madara Sasuke can use his teleportation within a certain range

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If you observe closely Madara's merely 150-200 meters away from Sasuke and out of that distance Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation! He had to use in order land an attack on Madara!

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But the fact reamins that Sasuke has a limited range in which he can teleport! Which is around 200 meters at max.


Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

Well with Hiraishin a person could teleport to countries away in an instant whilst Sasuke's Teleportation has a limited range of 200 meters!

And that's why, that's precicely why Sasuke asked Tobirama to use the Hiraishin to teleport to where Naruto is

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Naruto was as we know a " " Kilomters away from where .




Now on to the main, the most important point of them all.

Hiraishin Escapes Everything:

I'll leave you with some manga scans and a thread of mine on this particular topic.



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As seen there's nothing the Hiraishin can't escape!

Sasuke's Teleportation can't Escape anything

Directly to the point,

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Here we see Sasuke's being confined by Kaguya and it's sucking a lot of chakra from him and even after all that Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation to escape it.

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Meaning his teleportation doesn't have the escape properties of the Hiraishin!

Every teleportation technique is different, Hiraishin escapes all, Obito goes intangiable with Kamui whilst Sasuke's doesn't do either.

Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

As you saw there's absolutely nothing from which Hiraishin can't escape! Minato as seen , from . With Hiraishin Minato also saved Naruto and Sasuke who were about to be murdered by Obito who had grip on their faces. Even the shinju couldn't do anything against the Hiraishin[ ][ ]

Hiraishin can even escape from Mid-attack which makes it the most haxxed technique of all time!



As discussed and shown by manga the Hiraishin no jutsu is far above Sasuke's Teleportation in

1. Speed.
2. Range.
3. Escapism.




Miscellaneous Hiraishin Advantages over Sasuke's Teleportation:

1. Hiraishin can [at a time] which Sasuke's Teleportation which has a very short radius can't do. The Hiraishin can also send !

2. Hiraishin Marking , meaning once marked you're the property of the Hiraishin user U_U

3. Hiraishin's varient the Jikukan Kekkei offers unmatched things! The in an instant and entirity of Shinobi Allaince was saved, Sasuke has no such thing U_U

4. The , i.e. the FTG swap. You can swap anything that comes in contact of your chakra or the marking with anohter thing which has the marking or chakra. Without a doubt one of the uber hax varient of Hiraishin U_U

I'll leave a quote on one of it's usage [It offers more in-depth view]


5. Also the [ ], you know how that works! Minato owned Ay+Bee in seconds[ ][ ] U_U

6. The and the [Rasen Chou Rinbu Kusanshiki, the unseen-hyped jutsu capable enough to incapacitate Juubito-v1]




Everything written above is backed up by manga scans, if you don't agree on a point then please present your argument with appropriate manga scans.




#Inb4 posting Madara vs Sasuke and Madara vs Mianto scans

Minato fought Full-Onmyoudon Madara whilst Sasuke fought No-Onmyoudon Madara



Hope you guys enjoyed :flowers
ur first point is that obito's kamui is as fast as speed of light.Well it might be true but still it is a slow attack as far as juubi madara is concerned.
Following scan proves it

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UR 2nd point

Minato's FTG surpassing kamui.

The image u provided shows that obito was trying to take minato to other dimension(Inter dimension travelling).Next scan proves that Inter dimension travelling is too slow.

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As inter dimensional travelling is too slow,FTG surpassing it is not a big thing.

Ur third point

What do u expect from FTG?
If it was sasuke,he would have teleported madara in the direction of onmyoudon spheres or teleport onmyoudon spheres in the direction of madara and hit madara with it.

UR 4th point

Sasuke and naruto equal in speed

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The above scan only proves that sasuke covered more distance in shorter period of time than what naruto did.So sasuke is shown to be much faster than what naruto is.

The following scan proves that FTG is useless against madara

First tobirama

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next minato

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Both tobirama and minato used FTG(its variations) and they were stomped by madara.

Next scan shows how sasuke's S/T worked against madara

First image shows sasuke avoiding madara's attack and u can see the disbelief on madara's face

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next image shows how sasuke was able to stab madara with his sword using his S/T technique

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Next image shows how sasuke was able to teleport madara to desired location using his S/T

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Next image shows how sasuke was able to cut madara into 2 using his S/T.U can also see madara saying that sasuke is really fast

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The entire scans i provided proves 2 things:
1 FTG is useless against madara(jubi)
2 Sasuke's S/T troubled madara

From the scans i provided,it is safe to say S/T is faster than FTG.

Range

I am not biased like u r.FTG got much bigger range

escapism

The scans i provided clearly shows that FTG was unable to prevent the user from getting stomped.

Tobirama

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Minato

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The scans u provided to prove the escapism of FTG and Sasuke's S/T is really funny.
Ur scan shows that FTG can escape from obito while sasuke get caught by Kaguya.

I hope u know that Kaguya is way more powerful than obito is.She even got S/T which might be faster than sasuke

Ur threads are dumb.After all,this is wat i expect from a minato fapboy
 
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ur first point is that obito's kamui is as fast as speed of light.Well it might be true but still it is a slow attack as far as juubi madara is concerned.
Following scan proves it

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UR 2nd point

Minato's FTG surpassing kamui.

The image u provided shows that obito was trying to take minato to other dimension(Inter dimension travelling).Next scan proves that Inter dimension travelling is too slow.

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As inter dimensional travelling is too slow,FTG surpassing it is not a big thing.
Ur third point

What do u expect from FTG?FTG is instant and he was able to teleport it to somewhere else

UR 4th point

Sasuke and naruto equal in speed

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The above scan only proves that sasuke covered more distance than naruto did.So sasuke's Teleportation is much fast.
Thats it for now.
Let me add on your last point. Sasuke waited for naruto to close in to maddy before he moved, so that he can synchronize naruto's attack
 

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sasuke is falling into a lava his teleportation jutsu fails him once again lol
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Wait lmao are you retarded?

That's where the chapter ended, so he never fell into it dumbass.

This whole thread is bullshiitt. OP never fails when it comes to "who can make the most retarded threads"
 

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Hiraishin is terribly overrated. :|
If anything it's underrated U_U

Are you serious? Did you miss the part where Naruto was actively trying not to hit him?
That's expected of Sasuke fanboy Lol



ouch minator getting shat on again by anyone with a brain lel

Who the hell are you?

Let me add on your last point. Sasuke waited for naruto to close in to maddy before he moved, so that he can synchronize naruto's attack
Lel this troll.

Because i proved you're a retard and full of shit?​
No because you're a disgusting ass.
 

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damn where was i at :(

and lol a laugh at people who passes off minator trolling as logic ftg cannot warp you without a seal sasuke can

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also ftg needs 2 seals to switch places with something unlike sasuke

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and last ftg cannot escape everything

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ur first point is that obito's kamui is as fast as speed of light.Well it might be true but still it is a slow attack as far as juubi madara is concerned.
Following scan proves it

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UR 2nd point

Minato's FTG surpassing kamui.

The image u provided shows that obito was trying to take minato to other dimension(Inter dimension travelling).Next scan proves that Inter dimension travelling is too slow.

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As inter dimensional travelling is too slow,FTG surpassing it is not a big thing.

Ur third point

What do u expect from FTG?
If it was sasuke,he would have teleported madara in the direction of onmyoudon spheres or teleport onmyoudon spheres in the direction of madara and hit madara with it.

UR 4th point

Sasuke and naruto equal in speed

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The above scan only proves that sasuke covered more distance in shorter period of time than what naruto did.So sasuke is shown to be much faster than what naruto is.

The following scan proves that FTG is useless against madara

First tobirama

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next minato

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Both tobirama and minato used FTG(its variations) and they were stomped by madara.

Next scan shows how sasuke's S/T worked against madara

First image shows sasuke avoiding madara's attack and u can see the disbelief on madara's face

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next image shows how sasuke was able to stab madara with his sword using his S/T technique

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Next image shows how sasuke was able to teleport madara to desired location using his S/T

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Next image shows how sasuke was able to cut madara into 2 using his S/T.U can also see madara saying that sasuke is really fast

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The entire scans i provided proves 2 things:
1 FTG is useless against madara(jubi)
2 Sasuke's S/T troubled madara

From the scans i provided,it is safe to say S/T is faster than FTG.

Range

I am not biased like u r.FTG got much bigger range

escapism

The scans i provided clearly shows that FTG was unable to prevent the user from getting stomped.

Tobirama

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Minato

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The scans u provided to prove the escapism of FTG and Sasuke's S/T is really funny.
Ur scan shows that FTG can escape from obito while sasuke get caught by Kaguya.

I hope u know that Kaguya is way more powerful than obito is.She even got S/T which might be faster than sasuke
Not to be that guy, but konan already confirmed that obito warping himself is slower than him warping others, which breaks up the first part of your counter argument.
 

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Obitos warping is slower than FTG.

FTG needs two seals whiole sasuke's doesnt.

we dont know which one is faster but Ftg is instant so far sasuke's havent been known as instant .

attack ing by FTG doesnt mean that the user is fast. FTG is fast but the attack by the user depends on the user's attacking speed.

generally minato's attacking speed is the fastest but present sasuke's attacking speed is different
 
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