Manga Proof: Why Sasuke's Teleportation is far inferior to the Hiraishin no Jutsu!!

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Okay but you actually have to mark the target. Alas many have avoided arguing about Minatos inferior striking speed only the tech itself.



The point of this thread is to use bs to downplay Sasukes rinnegan abilities. Bringing up the 1v1 is relevant considering it showcases what advantages his rinnegan has. Give minato a sharinnegan so what his speed isn't even on par with Current Sasukes. Ha my jimmies aren't rustled the slightest Minatard avoided answering any post shitting on his thread. I think it's quite hilarious this thread is nothing to brag about.
Calm down, the thread isn't downplaying Sasuke nor is that the aim of the thread. Sasuke fans think that for any thread that isn't praising Sasuke -_-. Your jimmies do seem to be rustled since you're getting agitated by this and calling people who don't agree with you minatards.

And Sasuke's speed hasn't changed, he's just got a new eye which allows him to see hand move better. Why would the Rinnegan suddenly increase his speed? Considering Sasuke couldn't land a hit on blind Madara previously, even Madara noted that it was because of Sasuke's EMS that he moved so well. Now Sasuke has like a 10 tomoe sharingan/Rinnegan so of course it will seem like he's faster but in actual fact his new eye allows him to react quicker and anticipate attacks faster.

Bringing up the 1 vs 1 is the only advantage Sasuke's s/t has against FTG, which again is not relavent since the point of this thread is "which space time jutsu is overall better". There's no arguing against it, FTG is the better s/t jutsu, pretty straight forward. If you can't accept that then sorry for you, not everything has to be a contest with you Sasuke fans.
 

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It would appear so U_U

The fact that the main point of the thread was to compare both techniques overall and not which is better in a 1 vs 1 yet the butthurt ones feel the need to bring 1 vs 1 or Minatos striking speed into this lol. Give minato a sharinnegan and he'll be able to fight on par with a Juubi Jin too.
unfortunately minato is a side kick.
 

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Of course we will bring in 1 vs 1, you have to focus on all aspects so as not to be biased. Sasuke is still much faster than minato even without the rinnegan, his footspeed was what blized madara and not his ability. I can also say give sasuke ftg and he will do whateva minato and tobirama have done, don't start bringing in irrelevant points.
FTG isn't an ability give to minato and Tobirama by the sage of six paths is it :rolleyes:. I know Sasuke is fast without Rinnegan and I already admitted that Sasuke's s/t is better in a 1 v 1 which isn't even the point of the thread, so again it's irrelevant.

But if Sasuke is so fast then tell me why is it that before he got the Rinnegan he couldn't touch blind Madara? Madara evaded all his sword attacks and than counted him. Why do you think it's only now that Sasuke is able to touch Madara, don't try and act like he would ever be able to do so before without his new powers.
 

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In this thread I'll be using nothing but pure manga scans, there will be a speed comparison as well as technique characteristic comparison. I think many already know that Hiraishin no jutsu is far Superior to Sasuke's Rinnegan teleportation but nobody had made an in-depth analysis so here we are.

One more thing to be cleared before we move any further,

Hiraishin no Jutsu aka the Flying Thunder God technique aka the Flying Raijin technique and it's variants are used by the Fourth Hokage Minato and the Second Hokage Tobirama. The fourth Hokage modeled his technique after the second Hokage but his is slightly different and more advanced! The seal that Minato uses differs from the seal used by Tobirama and if Minato allows Tobirama to use the chakra link Tobirama could use Minato's markings and vice-versa.

Sasuke's Teleportation is his Rinnegan technique the one he achieved by the powerup given to him the Hagoromo aka the Sage of the Sixth Paths!

For simplicity purpose I'll use Minato mainly and not Tobirama.




Now I'll explain the workings of Hiraishin, the special attributes of Hiraishin and then you'll see how it's above Sasuke's Teleportation.




The Speed of Hiraishin:

The Hiraishin no jutsu is the " " technique used by the fourth Hokage. It's "instant" as in faster than the speed of light! There's nothing faster that the Hiraishin, absolutely nothing.

Here we see Zetsu confirming that Prime Obito's Kamui is on par with speed of Light

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Here we see Minato surpassing the Kamui's speed via his Hiraishin no jutsu! Obito even comments on it

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The Hiraishin no jutsu is without any doubt the fastest technique in the NV. We saw it's usefulness when Minato teleported Madara's Onmyoudon spheres in mid-battle that too when the 8th gateed Gai was charging at max speed

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It was so fast that . The Onmyoudon spheres [whilst being in ]

Now one might wonder why I focused so much on the speed when it's instant? Well with this speed comparison I was able to clarify that even in the "teleportation" techniques one can be faster than other. As we saw in Kamui's and Hiraishin's case. But what does this have to do with Sasuke's teleportation? Well look below,

The speed of Sasuke's Teleportation:

Here we see that Naruto has already left his spot and is halfway from his target, [in that same moment Sasuke prepared his technique, meaning it has a slight prep-time]

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Now observe the following two scans

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As you can see Sasuke has teleported to his target but did you notice Naruto? Naruto too had reached his target. Now what does that tell us? That Sasuke's Teleportation speed within his teleportation radius [you'll see explanation below] from preparing his Teleportation to landing an attack is roughly on Par with Naruto's speedblitz.

Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

It's too simple actually, as we got the manga confirmation above that Sasuke's Teleportation speed [which can only be used in certain radius] is on par or slightly above Naruto's Speedblitz which itself isn't even close to the speed of light or the Hiraishin speed.

I'll show you how things work when the Hiraishin is used! Observe the following page,

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As you can see Tobirama is with Juubito in that panel and in the next panel he's used the Hiraishin, everything even the pattern of the Enton or even Juubito's expression has remained the same only Tobirama who used the Hiraishin is out of there! This is how Hiraishin is, Sasuke's teleportation can't match it's speed U_U




The Range of Hiraishin:

As we've seen and known from the start that Hiraishin's range can be infinite. As long as there's a Hiraishin-marking to teleport Minato/Tobirama can teleport to it.

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Here we see Minato has teleported to Konoha which is on the other side of the Ninja-Continent with a speed that is greater than the speed of light as seen above!


The Range of Sasuke's Teleportation:

As seen and with said conformation from Madara Sasuke can use his teleportation within a certain range

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If you observe closely Madara's merely 150-200 meters away from Sasuke and out of that distance Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation! He had to use in order land an attack on Madara!

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But the fact reamins that Sasuke has a limited range in which he can teleport! Which is around 200 meters at max.


Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

Well with Hiraishin a person could teleport to countries away in an instant whilst Sasuke's Teleportation has a limited range of 200 meters!

And that's why, that's precicely why Sasuke asked Tobirama to use the Hiraishin to teleport to where Naruto is

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Naruto was as we know a " " Kilomters away from where .




Now on to the main, the most important point of them all.

Hiraishin Escapes Everything:

I'll leave you with some manga scans and a thread of mine on this particular topic.



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As seen there's nothing the Hiraishin can't escape!

Sasuke's Teleportation can't Escape anything

Directly to the point,

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Here we see Sasuke's being confined by Kaguya and it's sucking a lot of chakra from him and even after all that Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation to escape it.

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Meaning his teleportation doesn't have the escape properties of the Hiraishin!

Every teleportation technique is different, Hiraishin escapes all, Obito goes intangiable with Kamui whilst Sasuke's doesn't do either.

Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

As you saw there's absolutely nothing from which Hiraishin can't escape! Minato as seen , from . With Hiraishin Minato also saved Naruto and Sasuke who were about to be murdered by Obito who had grip on their faces. Even the shinju couldn't do anything against the Hiraishin[ ][ ]

Hiraishin can even escape from Mid-attack which makes it the most haxxed technique of all time!



As discussed and shown by manga the Hiraishin no jutsu is far above Sasuke's Teleportation in

1. Speed.
2. Range.
3. Escapism.




Miscellaneous Hiraishin Advantages over Sasuke's Teleportation:

1. Hiraishin can [at a time] which Sasuke's Teleportation which has a very short radius can't do. The Hiraishin can also send !

2. Hiraishin Marking , meaning once marked you're the property of the Hiraishin user U_U

3. Hiraishin's varient the Jikukan Kekkei offers unmatched things! The in an instant and entirity of Shinobi Allaince was saved, Sasuke has no such thing U_U

4. The , i.e. the FTG swap. You can swap anything that comes in contact of your chakra or the marking with anohter thing which has the marking or chakra. Without a doubt one of the uber hax varient of Hiraishin U_U

I'll leave a quote on one of it's usage [It offers more in-depth view]


5. Also the [ ], you know how that works! Minato owned Ay+Bee in seconds[ ][ ] U_U

6. The and the [Rasen Chou Rinbu Kusanshiki, the unseen-hyped jutsu capable enough to incapacitate Juubito-v1]




Everything written above is backed up by manga scans, if you don't agree on a point then please present your argument with appropriate manga scans.




#Inb4 posting Madara vs Sasuke and Madara vs Mianto scans

Minato fought Full-Onmyoudon Madara whilst Sasuke fought No-Onmyoudon Madara



Hope you guys enjoyed :flowers
Minato was able to teleport when obito was trying use to take obito to other dimension
In the scan given below,it clearly says that interdimensional traveling is too slow.

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so i guess u r wrong abt that part of ur theory.Its a manga fact
 
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In the scan given below,naruto got the head start, still sasuke was the one to get behind kaguya.Sasuke travelled long distance in shorter period of time compared to naruto.

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If u look at the image,u will understand that naruto had his staff raised while running towards kaguya.Its only ur assumption that naruto was abt to attack kaguya.Its not clearly shown in manga
 
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Teleportation = Teleportation. Didn't bother to read because it seems that all your threads seem to be de-grading Sasuke why so much hate for the young Uchiha? Also it has been proven more usefull than Minato's ftg and Tobirama since it was able to speedblitz Madara which is something that Minato and Tobirama ftg failed to do now why didn't you mention that?
 
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FTG are no match for juubi jin madara

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Minato used FTG and got stomped by madara

Sasuke's teleportation is faster as juubijin madara struggled against his quickness

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the above image shows one of sasuke's teleportation ability

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Sasuke was able to avoid madara's attack and also was able to cut him into 2.
So its fair to say S/T technique is faster than FTG
 

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u said obito's kamui is on par with speed of light.Well that might be true but that doesnt mean much.
For juubi jin madara,kamui is a slow attack

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But sasuke's S/T was fast enough to cut madara into 2.Even madara said sasuke is fast

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For juubijin madara,FTG and Kamui are both slow while S\T is fast.
I guess u r wrong abt FTG being faster than S\T.After all,S\T is the power given by SO6P.

Range
I got to agree with u

There are lots of advantages and disadvantages in both FTG and S\T.UR theory seems biased.
 
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U said FTG escapes everything but FTG user got stomped by madara while sasuke escaped him.Thats the dumbest thing i ever heard.Ability to avoid a certain attack doesnt mean it can avoid everything.FTG was useless against Juubijin.He certainly didnt avoid getting stomped
 

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No matter how much stuff you're going to put in your thread, fanboys will always ignore it and provide you the same scans over and over again without a logical explanation. They have a brain size as small as their genitals. *shots fired* out
 
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u said obito's kamui is on par with speed of light.Well that might be true but that doesnt mean much.
For juubi jin madara,kamui is a slow attack

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But sasuke's S/T was fast enough to cut madara into 2.Even madara said sasuke is fast

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For juubijin madara,FTG and Kamui are both slow while S\T is fast.
I guess u r wrong abt FTG being faster than S\T.After all,S\T is the power given by SO6P.

Range
I got to agree with u

There are lots of advantages and disadvantages in both FTG and S\T.UR theory seems biased.
he said ur still REALLY' fast ;)
 

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Nice thread as always bro. I wonder if Sasuke can use his S/T against Zabuza's mist technique seeing that his S/T needs to focus on something.
 

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How can people agree with anything this guy has to say when he made a thread asking how EMS Madara beats the 3rd Raikage without his Genjutsu and Kurama?

It's clear he is a retard and was dropped as a baby.​
 
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