In this thread I'll be using nothing but pure manga scans, there will be a speed comparison as well as technique characteristic comparison. I think many already know that Hiraishin no jutsu is far Superior to Sasuke's Rinnegan teleportation but nobody had made an in-depth analysis so here we are.
One more thing to be cleared before we move any further,
Hiraishin no Jutsu aka the Flying Thunder God technique aka the Flying Raijin technique and it's variants are used by the Fourth Hokage Minato and the Second Hokage Tobirama. The fourth Hokage modeled his technique after the second Hokage but his is slightly different and more advanced! The seal that Minato uses differs from the seal used by Tobirama and if Minato allows Tobirama to use the chakra link Tobirama could use Minato's markings and vice-versa.
Sasuke's Teleportation is his Rinnegan technique the one he achieved by the powerup given to him the Hagoromo aka the Sage of the Sixth Paths!
For simplicity purpose I'll use Minato mainly and not Tobirama.
Now I'll explain the workings of Hiraishin, the special attributes of Hiraishin and then you'll see how it's above Sasuke's Teleportation.
The Speed of Hiraishin:
Now one might wonder why I focused so much on the speed when it's instant? Well with this speed comparison I was able to clarify that even in the "teleportation" techniques one can be faster than other. As we saw in Kamui's and Hiraishin's case. But what does this have to do with Sasuke's teleportation? Well look below,
The speed of Sasuke's Teleportation:
Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:
The Range of Hiraishin:
The Range of Sasuke's Teleportation:
Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:
Now on to the main, the most important point of them all.
Hiraishin Escapes Everything:
Sasuke's Teleportation can't Escape anything
Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:
As discussed and shown by manga the Hiraishin no jutsu is far above Sasuke's Teleportation in
1. Speed.
2. Range.
3. Escapism.
Miscellaneous Hiraishin Advantages over Sasuke's Teleportation:
Everything written above is backed up by manga scans, if you don't agree on a point then please present your argument with appropriate manga scans.
#Inb4 posting Madara vs Sasuke and Madara vs Mianto scans
Minato fought Full-Onmyoudon Madara whilst Sasuke fought No-Onmyoudon Madara
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One more thing to be cleared before we move any further,
Hiraishin no Jutsu aka the Flying Thunder God technique aka the Flying Raijin technique and it's variants are used by the Fourth Hokage Minato and the Second Hokage Tobirama. The fourth Hokage modeled his technique after the second Hokage but his is slightly different and more advanced! The seal that Minato uses differs from the seal used by Tobirama and if Minato allows Tobirama to use the chakra link Tobirama could use Minato's markings and vice-versa.
Sasuke's Teleportation is his Rinnegan technique the one he achieved by the powerup given to him the Hagoromo aka the Sage of the Sixth Paths!
For simplicity purpose I'll use Minato mainly and not Tobirama.
Now I'll explain the workings of Hiraishin, the special attributes of Hiraishin and then you'll see how it's above Sasuke's Teleportation.
The Speed of Hiraishin:
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Here we see Zetsu confirming that Prime Obito's Kamui is on par with speed of Light
Here we see Minato surpassing the Kamui's speed via his Hiraishin no jutsu! Obito even comments on it
The Hiraishin no jutsu is without any doubt the fastest technique in the NV. We saw it's usefulness when Minato teleported Madara's Onmyoudon spheres in mid-battle that too when the 8th gateed Gai was charging at max speed
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" technique used by the fourth Hokage. It's "instant" as in faster than the speed of light! There's nothing faster that the Hiraishin, absolutely nothing.Here we see Zetsu confirming that Prime Obito's Kamui is on par with speed of Light
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Here we see Minato surpassing the Kamui's speed via his Hiraishin no jutsu! Obito even comments on it
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The Hiraishin no jutsu is without any doubt the fastest technique in the NV. We saw it's usefulness when Minato teleported Madara's Onmyoudon spheres in mid-battle that too when the 8th gateed Gai was charging at max speed
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. The Onmyoudon spheres
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[whilst being in
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]Now one might wonder why I focused so much on the speed when it's instant? Well with this speed comparison I was able to clarify that even in the "teleportation" techniques one can be faster than other. As we saw in Kamui's and Hiraishin's case. But what does this have to do with Sasuke's teleportation? Well look below,
The speed of Sasuke's Teleportation:
Here we see that Naruto has already left his spot and is halfway from his target, [in that same moment Sasuke prepared his technique, meaning it has a slight prep-time]
Now observe the following two scans
As you can see Sasuke has teleported to his target but did you notice Naruto? Naruto too had reached his target. Now what does that tell us? That Sasuke's Teleportation speed within his teleportation radius [you'll see explanation below] from preparing his Teleportation to landing an attack is roughly on Par with Naruto's speedblitz.
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Now observe the following two scans
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As you can see Sasuke has teleported to his target but did you notice Naruto? Naruto too had reached his target. Now what does that tell us? That Sasuke's Teleportation speed within his teleportation radius [you'll see explanation below] from preparing his Teleportation to landing an attack is roughly on Par with Naruto's speedblitz.
Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:
It's too simple actually, as we got the manga confirmation above that Sasuke's Teleportation speed [which can only be used in certain radius] is on par or slightly above Naruto's Speedblitz which itself isn't even close to the speed of light or the Hiraishin speed.
I'll show you how things work when the Hiraishin is used! Observe the following page,
As you can see Tobirama is with Juubito in that panel and in the next panel he's used the Hiraishin, everything even the pattern of the Enton or even Juubito's expression has remained the same only Tobirama who used the Hiraishin is out of there! This is how Hiraishin is, Sasuke's teleportation can't match it's speed U_U
I'll show you how things work when the Hiraishin is used! Observe the following page,
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As you can see Tobirama is with Juubito in that panel and in the next panel he's used the Hiraishin, everything even the pattern of the Enton or even Juubito's expression has remained the same only Tobirama who used the Hiraishin is out of there! This is how Hiraishin is, Sasuke's teleportation can't match it's speed U_U
The Range of Hiraishin:
As we've seen and known from the start that Hiraishin's range can be infinite. As long as there's a Hiraishin-marking to teleport Minato/Tobirama can teleport to it.
Here we see Minato has teleported to Konoha which is on the other side of the Ninja-Continent with a speed that is greater than the speed of light as seen above!
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Here we see Minato has teleported to Konoha which is on the other side of the Ninja-Continent with a speed that is greater than the speed of light as seen above!
The Range of Sasuke's Teleportation:
As seen and with said conformation from Madara Sasuke can use his teleportation within a certain range
If you observe closely Madara's merely 150-200 meters away from Sasuke and out of that distance Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation! He had to use
But the fact reamins that Sasuke has a limited range in which he can teleport! Which is around 200 meters at max.
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If you observe closely Madara's merely 150-200 meters away from Sasuke and out of that distance Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation! He had to use
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in order land an attack on Madara!
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But the fact reamins that Sasuke has a limited range in which he can teleport! Which is around 200 meters at max.
Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:
Well with Hiraishin a person could teleport to countries away in an instant whilst Sasuke's Teleportation has a limited range of 200 meters!
And that's why, that's precicely why Sasuke asked Tobirama to use the Hiraishin to teleport to where Naruto is
Naruto was as we know a "
And that's why, that's precicely why Sasuke asked Tobirama to use the Hiraishin to teleport to where Naruto is
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" Kilomters away from where
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.Now on to the main, the most important point of them all.
Hiraishin Escapes Everything:
I'll leave you with some manga scans and a thread of mine on this particular topic.
As seen there's nothing the Hiraishin can't escape!
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As seen there's nothing the Hiraishin can't escape!
Sasuke's Teleportation can't Escape anything
Directly to the point,
Here we see Sasuke's being confined by Kaguya and it's sucking a lot of chakra from him and even after all that Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation to escape it.
Meaning his teleportation doesn't have the escape properties of the Hiraishin!
Every teleportation technique is different, Hiraishin escapes all, Obito goes intangiable with Kamui whilst Sasuke's doesn't do either.
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Here we see Sasuke's being confined by Kaguya and it's sucking a lot of chakra from him and even after all that Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation to escape it.
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Meaning his teleportation doesn't have the escape properties of the Hiraishin!
Every teleportation technique is different, Hiraishin escapes all, Obito goes intangiable with Kamui whilst Sasuke's doesn't do either.
Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:
As you saw there's absolutely nothing from which Hiraishin can't escape! Minato as seen
Hiraishin can even escape from Mid-attack
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, from
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. With Hiraishin Minato also saved Naruto and Sasuke who were about to be murdered by Obito who had
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grip on their faces. Even the shinju couldn't do anything against the Hiraishin[
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]Hiraishin can even escape from Mid-attack
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which makes it the most haxxed technique of all time!As discussed and shown by manga the Hiraishin no jutsu is far above Sasuke's Teleportation in
1. Speed.
2. Range.
3. Escapism.
Miscellaneous Hiraishin Advantages over Sasuke's Teleportation:
1. Hiraishin can
2. Hiraishin Marking
3. Hiraishin's varient the Jikukan Kekkei offers unmatched things! The
4. The
I'll leave a quote on one of it's usage [It offers more in-depth view]
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[at a time] which Sasuke's Teleportation which has a very short radius can't do. The Hiraishin can also send
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!2. Hiraishin Marking
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, meaning once marked you're the property of the Hiraishin user U_U3. Hiraishin's varient the Jikukan Kekkei offers unmatched things! The
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in an instant and entirity of Shinobi Allaince was saved, Sasuke has no such thing U_U4. The
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, i.e. the FTG swap. You can swap anything that comes in contact of your chakra or the marking with anohter thing which has the marking or chakra. Without a doubt one of the uber hax varient of Hiraishin U_UI'll leave a quote on one of it's usage [It offers more in-depth view]
Minato_R93 said:I'll show you how Minato and Tobirama pretty much nullifies the Madara's PSS threat.
Minato vs PSS [Madara's Destruction Incarnate] :
As I've stated in some of my earlier posts [not from this thread] that if Madara goes PSS against Minato then he shoots himself in the leg.
We've seen Hashirama pretty much running when PSS+Kurama had that mini rampage, Madara even taunted him @ that point. Madara then blasted him with a TBB+PSS Sword and Hashirama redirected it via 5-Rashomon.
Now Insert Alive Minato instead of Hashirama, he could do the same with Low difficulty and with very Low chakra. How? Jikukan Keekei i.e. FTG Barrier. Minato already Barriere'd Juubi's TBB No Diff with it in base!
Minato however can take it one step further than Hashirama and have that attack redirected at Madara himself!!
Now onto the main topic, Minato vs Madara's PSS
We know that Minato can teleport anything and everything that his chakra comes into contact with [Directly, Indirectly] (I'm talking about the "chakra link"Minato forms). A Susanoo is nothing but a User's chakra manipulated around him. So all Minato has to do is to "touch" PSS in order to form that "chakra link"
Once the chakra link is formed, Minato is left with 3 choices:
1. To teleport both Madara and PSS
2. To teleport PSS and left Madara hanging
3. To teleport Madara out of the PS to a different Location!
But remember I said Madara shoots himself in the leg when he goes PSS against Minato, I'll prove you why
The Hiraishin Goshun Mawashi i.e. the FTG Swap. Minato can have a clone to do the chakra forming and instead of teleporting Madara out of it Minato can simply swap Madara with his clone and kill him the instant he's swapped!!
Going PSS or any Susanoo against Minato is writing a death wish really. I mean not after he clarified his FTG and showed that over haxx tech Goshun Mawashi!
Now this works on Madara but some smartass will say will this work on Sasuke? because Sasuke uses Enton Cover blah blah. Well it doesMinato sends his clones to do the work so even if he touches Amaterasu nothing's gonna happen since its not real Minato!
Also: I argued using base Minato! You can only Imagine how easy it'd be for BM or SM Minato to shit on PSS Lol Also Tobirama has the same Hiraishin abilities as well U_U
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], you know how that works! Minato owned Ay+Bee in seconds[
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[Rasen Chou Rinbu Kusanshiki, the unseen-hyped jutsu capable enough to incapacitate Juubito-v1]Everything written above is backed up by manga scans, if you don't agree on a point then please present your argument with appropriate manga scans.
#Inb4 posting Madara vs Sasuke and Madara vs Mianto scans
Minato fought Full-Onmyoudon Madara whilst Sasuke fought No-Onmyoudon Madara
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