Manga Proof: Why Sasuke's Teleportation is far inferior to the Hiraishin no Jutsu!!

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In this thread I'll be using nothing but pure manga scans, there will be a speed comparison as well as technique characteristic comparison. I think many already know that Hiraishin no jutsu is far Superior to Sasuke's Rinnegan teleportation but nobody had made an in-depth analysis so here we are.

One more thing to be cleared before we move any further,

Hiraishin no Jutsu aka the Flying Thunder God technique aka the Flying Raijin technique and it's variants are used by the Fourth Hokage Minato and the Second Hokage Tobirama. The fourth Hokage modeled his technique after the second Hokage but his is slightly different and more advanced! The seal that Minato uses differs from the seal used by Tobirama and if Minato allows Tobirama to use the chakra link Tobirama could use Minato's markings and vice-versa.

Sasuke's Teleportation is his Rinnegan technique the one he achieved by the powerup given to him the Hagoromo aka the Sage of the Sixth Paths!

For simplicity purpose I'll use Minato mainly and not Tobirama.




Now I'll explain the workings of Hiraishin, the special attributes of Hiraishin and then you'll see how it's above Sasuke's Teleportation.




The Speed of Hiraishin:

The Hiraishin no jutsu is the " " technique used by the fourth Hokage. It's "instant" as in faster than the speed of light! There's nothing faster that the Hiraishin, absolutely nothing.

Here we see Zetsu confirming that Prime Obito's Kamui is on par with speed of Light

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Here we see Minato surpassing the Kamui's speed via his Hiraishin no jutsu! Obito even comments on it

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The Hiraishin no jutsu is without any doubt the fastest technique in the NV. We saw it's usefulness when Minato teleported Madara's Onmyoudon spheres in mid-battle that too when the 8th gateed Gai was charging at max speed

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It was so fast that . The Onmyoudon spheres [whilst being in ]

Now one might wonder why I focused so much on the speed when it's instant? Well with this speed comparison I was able to clarify that even in the "teleportation" techniques one can be faster than other. As we saw in Kamui's and Hiraishin's case. But what does this have to do with Sasuke's teleportation? Well look below,

The speed of Sasuke's Teleportation:

Here we see that Naruto has already left his spot and is halfway from his target, [in that same moment Sasuke prepared his technique, meaning it has a slight prep-time]

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Now observe the following two scans

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As you can see Sasuke has teleported to his target but did you notice Naruto? Naruto too had reached his target. Now what does that tell us? That Sasuke's Teleportation speed within his teleportation radius [you'll see explanation below] from preparing his Teleportation to landing an attack is roughly on Par with Naruto's speedblitz.

Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

It's too simple actually, as we got the manga confirmation above that Sasuke's Teleportation speed [which can only be used in certain radius] is on par or slightly above Naruto's Speedblitz which itself isn't even close to the speed of light or the Hiraishin speed.

I'll show you how things work when the Hiraishin is used! Observe the following page,

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As you can see Tobirama is with Juubito in that panel and in the next panel he's used the Hiraishin, everything even the pattern of the Enton or even Juubito's expression has remained the same only Tobirama who used the Hiraishin is out of there! This is how Hiraishin is, Sasuke's teleportation can't match it's speed U_U




The Range of Hiraishin:

As we've seen and known from the start that Hiraishin's range can be infinite. As long as there's a Hiraishin-marking to teleport Minato/Tobirama can teleport to it.

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Here we see Minato has teleported to Konoha which is on the other side of the Ninja-Continent with a speed that is greater than the speed of light as seen above!


The Range of Sasuke's Teleportation:

As seen and with said conformation from Madara Sasuke can use his teleportation within a certain range

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If you observe closely Madara's merely 150-200 meters away from Sasuke and out of that distance Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation! He had to use in order land an attack on Madara!

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But the fact reamins that Sasuke has a limited range in which he can teleport! Which is around 200 meters at max.


Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

Well with Hiraishin a person could teleport to countries away in an instant whilst Sasuke's Teleportation has a limited range of 200 meters!

And that's why, that's precicely why Sasuke asked Tobirama to use the Hiraishin to teleport to where Naruto is

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Naruto was as we know a " " Kilomters away from where .




Now on to the main, the most important point of them all.

Hiraishin Escapes Everything:

I'll leave you with some manga scans and a thread of mine on this particular topic.



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As seen there's nothing the Hiraishin can't escape!

Sasuke's Teleportation can't Escape anything

Directly to the point,

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Here we see Sasuke's being confined by Kaguya and it's sucking a lot of chakra from him and even after all that Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation to escape it.

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Meaning his teleportation doesn't have the escape properties of the Hiraishin!

Every teleportation technique is different, Hiraishin escapes all, Obito goes intangiable with Kamui whilst Sasuke's doesn't do either.

Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

As you saw there's absolutely nothing from which Hiraishin can't escape! Minato as seen , from . With Hiraishin Minato also saved Naruto and Sasuke who were about to be murdered by Obito who had grip on their faces. Even the shinju couldn't do anything against the Hiraishin[ ][ ]

Hiraishin can even escape from Mid-attack which makes it the most haxxed technique of all time!



As discussed and shown by manga the Hiraishin no jutsu is far above Sasuke's Teleportation in

1. Speed.
2. Range.
3. Escapism.




Miscellaneous Hiraishin Advantages over Sasuke's Teleportation:

1. Hiraishin can [at a time] which Sasuke's Teleportation which has a very short radius can't do. The Hiraishin can also send !

2. Hiraishin Marking , meaning once marked you're the property of the Hiraishin user U_U

3. Hiraishin's varient the Jikukan Kekkei offers unmatched things! The in an instant and entirity of Shinobi Allaince was saved, Sasuke has no such thing U_U

4. The , i.e. the FTG swap. You can swap anything that comes in contact of your chakra or the marking with anohter thing which has the marking or chakra. Without a doubt one of the uber hax varient of Hiraishin U_U

I'll leave a quote on one of it's usage [It offers more in-depth view]

Minato_R93 said:
I'll show you how Minato and Tobirama pretty much nullifies the Madara's PSS threat.

Minato vs PSS [Madara's Destruction Incarnate] :

As I've stated in some of my earlier posts [not from this thread :p] that if Madara goes PSS against Minato then he shoots himself in the leg.

We've seen Hashirama pretty much running when PSS+Kurama had that mini rampage, Madara even taunted him @ that point. Madara then blasted him with a TBB+PSS Sword and Hashirama redirected it via 5-Rashomon.

Now Insert Alive Minato instead of Hashirama, he could do the same with Low difficulty and with very Low chakra. How? Jikukan Keekei i.e. FTG Barrier. Minato already Barriere'd Juubi's TBB No Diff with it in base!

Minato however can take it one step further than Hashirama and have that attack redirected at Madara himself!!

Now onto the main topic, Minato vs Madara's PSS

We know that Minato can teleport anything and everything that his chakra comes into contact with [Directly, Indirectly] (I'm talking about the "chakra link"Minato forms). A Susanoo is nothing but a User's chakra manipulated around him. So all Minato has to do is to "touch" PSS in order to form that "chakra link"

Once the chakra link is formed, Minato is left with 3 choices:

1. To teleport both Madara and PSS
2. To teleport PSS and left Madara hanging
3. To teleport Madara out of the PS to a different Location!

But remember I said Madara shoots himself in the leg when he goes PSS against Minato, I'll prove you why

The Hiraishin Goshun Mawashi i.e. the FTG Swap. Minato can have a clone to do the chakra forming and instead of teleporting Madara out of it Minato can simply swap Madara with his clone and kill him the instant he's swapped!!

Going PSS or any Susanoo against Minato is writing a death wish really. I mean not after he clarified his FTG and showed that over haxx tech Goshun Mawashi!

Now this works on Madara but some smartass will say will this work on Sasuke? because Sasuke uses Enton Cover blah blah. Well it does :cool: Minato sends his clones to do the work so even if he touches Amaterasu nothing's gonna happen since its not real Minato!

Also: I argued using base Minato! You can only Imagine how easy it'd be for BM or SM Minato to shit on PSS Lol Also Tobirama has the same Hiraishin abilities as well U_U

5. Also the [ ], you know how that works! Minato owned Ay+Bee in seconds[ ][ ] U_U

6. The and the [Rasen Chou Rinbu Kusanshiki, the unseen-hyped jutsu capable enough to incapacitate Juubito-v1]




Everything written above is backed up by manga scans, if you don't agree on a point then please present your argument with appropriate manga scans.




#Inb4 posting Madara vs Sasuke and Madara vs Mianto scans

Minato fought Full-Onmyoudon Madara whilst Sasuke fought No-Onmyoudon Madara



Hope you guys enjoyed :flowers
 
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Lel you went into detail that it has superior range but everyone knows that. Obito wasn't asorbing minatos chakra with those chains as Minato made no comment about his chakra. Not only that but you ignored the advantages of Sasukes rinnegan like whoever/whatever is in his radius is automatically marked. Just another long wank post.

I'll leave this here so you can make up some more bs to justify this.
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Lel you went into detail that it has superior range but everyone knows that. Obito wasn't asorbing minatos chakra with those chains as Minato made no comment about his chakra. Not only that but you ignored the advantages of Sasukes rinnegan like whoever/whatever is in his radius is automatically marked. Just another long wank post.
I knew you would reply, Want some lube?
 
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Lol i knew it was you
Madara couldn't react to sasuke while he reacted to tobirama while not being a jin, and to minato without even moving
 

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Lel you went into detail that it has superior range but everyone knows that. Obito wasn't asorbing minatos chakra with those chains as Minato made no comment about his chakra. Not only that but you ignored the advantages of Sasukes rinnegan like whoever/whatever is in his radius is automatically marked. Just another long wank post.

I'll leave this here so you can make up some more bs to justify this.
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Pretty much this.
 

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Sasuke's st seems better in a 1 on 1 battle

FTG however is more usefull overall, a good example is Mei who was teleported at long range, FTG can be used outside of battle in alot more benefitting ways, more versatile so to say
Though it's pointless because NB thinks only in "vs" scenario's and disregards any other advantages

But nice thread, Minator strikes again with mangafacts, I can see the haters incoming
 
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Nvm saw post wrong...

Prepare hate inc.
What?

I'm prepared though U_U

Lel you went into detail that it has superior range but everyone knows that. Obito wasn't asorbing minatos chakra with those chains as Minato made no comment about his chakra. Not only that but you ignored the advantages of Sasukes rinnegan like whoever/whatever is in his radius is automatically marked. Just another long wank post.

I'll leave this here so you can make up some more bs to justify this.
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Two things:

1. Madara had no knowledge about Sasuke's jutsu and was worried about his other Rinnegan.

2. Madara had full knowledge of Hiraishin and he wasn't "marked" both Tobirama and Minato appeared to a marking near him not on him. Madara noticed the Kunai and countered Minato, had he been branded with mark he'd be hit with that Senpou Rasengan U_U
"Speed of light" from zetsu was an exaggeration.
It's the manga U_U

Lol i knew it was you
Madara couldn't react to sasuke while he reacted to tobirama while not being a jin, and to minato without even moving
Explained above U_U
 

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Hiraishin is not better simply because of the users being less than current sasuke.

What I mean is minato and tobirama while using ftg could not touch sm madara or juubi jin Godara yet sasuke teleportation did allow him to overwhelm Godara, you just want to deny truth.

Sasuke is not just teleporting himself and objects he is distorting space, Godara already noted this and said sasuke isn't just teleporting. Also just like ftg wasn't fast enough to hit the juubi jins it's not fast enough to hit sasuke or naruto because naruto has senjutsu and sasuke has the rinnegan sensing.
 

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I agree 100%, Minator strikes again. Excellent thread.
Thanks :)

I would say Hiraishin its more well rounded,not better necessarily and we know little of Sasuke's S/T potential for now.
Its too early to tag them imo.
Well it has limited range with no escape properties, that alone makes it inferior to Hiraishin.

To bad i knew about it already.
Good to know U_U

Pretty much this.
It was countered Lol

Lul minators threads are always a good time.
Glad you had good time :cool:

Great thread as usual minator. Get ready for the butthurt replies to follow! +rep

Also, who do you pick to win the semis?
Thanks and I'm prepared :cool:

Nole is NID,

Rafito 65:35 to Andy.

Sasuke's st seems better in a 1 on 1 battle

FTG however is more usefull overall, a good example is Mei who was teleported at long range, FTG can be used outside of battle in alot more benefitting ways
Though it's pointless because NB thinks only in "vs" scenario's and disregards any other advantages
I know most only look at it as a 1v1
 

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In this thread I'll be using nothing but pure manga scans, there will be a speed comparison as well as technique characteristic comparison. I think many already know that Hiraishin no jutsu is far Superior to Sasuke's Rinnegan teleportation but nobody had made an in-depth analysis so here we are.

One more thing to be cleared before we move any further,

Hiraishin no Jutsu aka the Flying Thunder God technique aka the Flying Raijin technique and it's variants are used by the Fourth Hokage Minato and the Second Hokage Tobirama. The fourth Hokage modeled his technique after the second Hokage but his is slightly different and more advanced! The seal that Minato uses differs from the seal used by Tobirama and if Minato allows Tobirama to use the chakra link Tobirama could use Minato's markings and vice-versa.

Sasuke's Teleportation is his Rinnegan technique the one he achieved by the powerup given to him the Hagoromo aka the Sage of the Sixth Paths!

For simplicity purpose I'll use Minato mainly and not Tobirama.




Now I'll explain the workings of Hiraishin, the special attributes of Hiraishin and then you'll see how it's above Sasuke's Teleportation.




The Speed of Hiraishin:

The Hiraishin no jutsu is the " " technique used by the fourth Hokage. It's "instant" as in faster than the speed of light! There's nothing faster that the Hiraishin, absolutely nothing.

Here we see Zetsu confirming that Prime Obito's Kamui is on par with speed of Light

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Here we see Minato surpassing the Kamui's speed via his Hiraishin no jutsu! Obito even comments on it

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The Hiraishin no jutsu is without any doubt the fastest technique in the NV. We saw it's usefulness when Minato teleported Madara's Onmyoudon spheres in mid-battle that too when the 8th gateed Gai was charging at max speed

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It was so fast that . The Onmyoudon spheres [whilst being in ]

Now one might wonder why I focused so much on the speed when it's instant? Well with this speed comparison I was able to clarify that even in the "teleportation" techniques one can be faster than other. As we saw in Kamui's and Hiraishin's case. But what does this have to do with Sasuke's teleportation? Well look below,

The speed of Sasuke's Teleportation:

Here we see that Naruto has already left his spot and is halfway from his target, [in that same moment Sasuke prepared his technique, meaning it has a slight prep-time]

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Now observe the following two scans

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As you can see Sasuke has teleported to his target but did you notice Naruto? Naruto too had reached his target. Now what does that tell us? That Sasuke's Teleportation speed within his teleportation radius [you'll see explanation below] from preparing his Teleportation to landing an attack is roughly on Par with Naruto's speedblitz.

Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

It's too simple actually, as we got the manga confirmation above that Sasuke's Teleportation speed [which can only be used in certain radius] is on par or slightly above Naruto's Speedblitz which itself isn't even close to the speed of light or the Hiraishin speed.

I'll show you how things work when the Hiraishin is used! Observe the following page,

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As you can see Tobirama is with Juubito in that panel and in the next panel he's used the Hiraishin, everything even the pattern of the Enton or even Juubito's expression has remained the same only Tobirama who used the Hiraishin is out of there! This is how Hiraishin is, Sasuke's teleportation can't match it's speed U_U




The Range of Hiraishin:

As we've seen and known from the start that Hiraishin's range can be infinite. As long as there's a Hiraishin-marking to teleport Minato/Tobirama can teleport to it.

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Here we see Minato has teleported to Konoha which is on the other side of the Ninja-Continent with a speed that is greater than the speed of light as seen above!


The Range of Sasuke's Teleportation:

As seen and with said conformation from Madara Sasuke can use his teleportation within a certain range

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If you observe closely Madara's merely 150-200 meters away from Sasuke and out of that distance Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation! He had to use in order land an attack on Madara!

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But the fact reamins that Sasuke has a limited range in which he can teleport! Which is around 200 meters at max.


Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

Well with Hiraishin a person could teleport to countries away in an instant whilst Sasuke's Teleportation has a limited range of 200 meters!

And that's why, that's precicely why Sasuke asked Tobirama to use the Hiraishin to teleport to where Naruto is

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Naruto was as we know a " " Kilomters away from where .




Now on to the main, the most important point of them all.

Hiraishin Escapes Everything:

I'll leave you with some manga scans and a thread of mine on this particular topic.



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As seen there's nothing the Hiraishin can't escape!

Sasuke's Teleportation can't Escape anything

Directly to the point,

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Here we see Sasuke's being confined by Kaguya and it's sucking a lot of chakra from him and even after all that Sasuke was unable to use his teleportation to escape it.

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Meaning his teleportation doesn't have the escape properties of the Hiraishin!

Every teleportation technique is different, Hiraishin escapes all, Obito goes intangiable with Kamui whilst Sasuke's doesn't do either.

Comparison and why Hiraishin is better in this department:

As you saw there's absolutely nothing from which Hiraishin can't escape! Minato as seen , from . With Hiraishin Minato also saved Naruto and Sasuke who were about to be murdered by Obito who had grip on their faces. Even the shinju couldn't do anything against the Hiraishin[ ][ ]

Hiraishin can even escape from Mid-attack which makes it the most haxxed technique of all time!



As discussed and shown by manga the Hiraishin no jutsu is far above Sasuke's Teleportation in

1. Speed.
2. Range.
3. Escapism.




Miscellaneous Hiraishin Advantages over Sasuke's Teleportation:

1. Hiraishin can [at a time] which Sasuke's Teleportation which has a very short radius can't do. The Hiraishin can also send !

2. Hiraishin Marking , meaning once marked you're the property of the Hiraishin user U_U

3. Hiraishin's varient the Jikukan Kekkei offers unmatched things! The in an instant and entirity of Shinobi Allaince was saved, Sasuke has no such thing U_U

4. The , i.e. the FTG swap. You can swap anything that comes in contact of your chakra or the marking with anohter thing which has the marking or chakra. Without a doubt one of the uber hax varient of Hiraishin U_U

I'll leave a quote on one of it's usage [It offers more in-depth view]


5. Also the [ ], you know how that works! Minato owned Ay+Bee in seconds[ ][ ] U_U

6. The and the [Rasen Chou Rinbu Kusanshiki, the unseen-hyped jutsu capable enough to incapacitate Juubito-v1]




Everything written above is backed up by manga scans, if you don't agree on a point then please present your argument with appropriate manga scans.

Hope you guys enjoyed :flowers

sasuke is falling into a lava his teleportation jutsu fails him once again lol
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Two things:

1. Madara had no knowledge about Sasuke's jutsu and was worried about his other Rinnegan.

2. Madara had full knowledge of Hiraishin and he wasn't "marked" both Tobirama and Minato appeared to a marking near him not on him. Madara noticed the Kunai and countered Minato, had he been branded with mark he'd be hit with that Senpou Rasengan U_U
- Knowledge about any justu is important. If one had all knowledge about ftg users they wouldn't engage in close combat but thats beside the point. You're saying it's vastly superior while ignoring the obvious superior elements of Sasuke jutsu

O so now he noticed the visible kunai i guess it's not as superior as you think. Wank post confirmed.
 
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What?

I'm prepared though U_U



Two things:

1. Madara had no knowledge about Sasuke's jutsu and was worried about his other Rinnegan.

2. Madara had full knowledge of Hiraishin and he wasn't "marked" both Tobirama and Minato appeared to a marking near him not on him. Madara noticed the Kunai and countered Minato, had he been branded with mark he'd be hit with that Senpou Rasengan U_U


It's the manga U_U



Explained above U_U
doesn't matter. Madara was blitzed by sasuke 3 times. he's a genius he doesn't need to see a move twice. He was blitzed by sasuke's jutsu the third time while having started to move before sasuke, and yet couldn't react to him
 
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