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Well madara said you don't need the rinnegan to control it properly, just senju/uchiha dna.

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When I say obito can control it better, I mean he can use it without getting controlled & having his chakra absorbed.

AH that , but madara said "to control" not summon ...

this is what confuses me .
 

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So? Hardly even relevant since he was using SZ as a medium.

Lol did you even read what i said ? Obito performed that mokuton by himself . But this is irrelevant since mere wood wouldnt do anything to nagato .

Again , prime obito has high chakra conserves , like nagato . They both spam throughout the battle unitl one is exhauested which will be nagato , since Obito has senju DNA .
 

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AH that , but madara said "to control" not summon ...

this is what confuses me .

Yeah, so summoning it may be a rinnegan jutsu [outer path] while controlling it is like controlling a bijuu? That's my guess anyways.

Well that's why the mazou could come into play, if nagato decides to summon it then it could end up working against him.
 

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How does Kakuzu ever hit Deidara?

C4 should end it.
 

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Deidara solos all if them if we include suicide techniques. C0 GG so that makes deidara #1
 

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Yeah, so summoning it may be a rinnegan jutsu [outer path] while controlling it is like controlling a bijuu? That's my guess anyways.

Well that's why the mazou could come into play, if nagato decides to summon it then it could end up working against him.

Oh I pretty much see your point . You're saying if Nagato summons mazo then obito will have control of it . Phew didnt think of that o-o

This adds more of an advantage for obtio .
 

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Lol did you even read what i said ? Obito performed that mokuton by himself . But this is irrelevant since mere wood wouldnt do anything to nagato .

Again , prime obito has high chakra conserves , like nagato . They both spam throughout the battle unitl one is exhauested which will be nagato , since Obito has senju DNA .

Dude, no. He used the wood release through SZ, which is why he hasn't used it recently, because he needs SZ for anything wood related on that scale. Not that hard.

Prime Nagato has way bigger chakra reserves, he can revive a whole village while Obito even stated if he revived Madara, he's done.
 

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Oh I pretty much see your point . You're saying if Nagato summons mazo then obito will have control of it . Phew didnt think of that o-o

This adds more of an advantage for obtio .

Yeah pretty much, the mazou could only work against him here.

Then there's Izanagi, which kills nagato even if he "kills" obito first.
 

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Obito can use wood release on his own. Not that hard to comprehend. He even used the arm that was on his Zetsu side.
 

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Obito can use wood release on his own. Not that hard to comprehend. He even used the arm that was on his Zetsu side.

Exactly. Was just going to say.

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Yeah pretty much, the mazou could only work against him here.

Then there's Izanagi, which kills nagato even if he "kills" obito first.
Pretty sure Nagato's control would be even more dominant than Obito's, since the latter actually has the Rinnegan.
 

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Dude, no. He used the wood release through SZ, which is why he hasn't used it recently, because he needs SZ for anything wood related on that scale. Not that hard.

Prime Nagato has way bigger chakra reserves, he can revive a whole village while Obito even stated if he revived Madara, he's done.

I dont remember obito saying that . Scan please ?
 

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Pretty sure Nagato's control would be even more dominant than Obito's, since the latter actually has the Rinnegan.

As I posted earlier, having the rinnegan means nothing when controlling the mazou.
 
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