Whats your #1 Plothole in Naruto?

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That has already been explained by me and others

It's not the fact that he maintained it w/o his sharingan. We saw Itachi do that in his fight against Sasuke. He used his MS to awaken it, then he actually turned it off after he formed it.

I just don't see how it makes sense for Maddy to not only maintain it, but summon it w/o eyes in his head.
 

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Biggest Plot Hole : how did Madara transplant his eyes to Nagato, he awakened his eyes at a VERY OLD age and was stuck to the Gedo statue, so how did he manage to get Nagato and transplant his eyes into him, (b) how come Nagatos parents didn't notice ? they were alive at the time.

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how did Kabuto get Madaras body? i mean... for what ever reason, he got it okay, fine.
why didn't Deidara get his Left eye back when he was reanimated? Nagatos eyes were taken away, but he got em back? Madara also got his eyes back when he was in edo form

(3)
Blind Madara and everything related to blind madara ... :/

(4)
How is Hidan immortal again? why don't other people do this? i mean its like ultra super hax?

Not really sure if they're plot holes, but, i would really appreciate an answer :D

1. not a plot hole. Zetsu most likely worked for Madara
2. not a plot hole. Obito was Madara's student, Obito might have preserved Madara's body
3. Blind Madara- leigt plot hole and simply retarded. Much like everything that happens in DC comics (pre crisis superman ex)
4. not a plot hole, might be explained later in the manga.
 

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It's not the fact that he maintained it w/o his sharingan. We saw Itachi do that in his fight against Sasuke. He used his MS to awaken it, then he actually turned it off after he formed it.

I just don't see how it makes sense for Maddy to not only maintain it, but summon it w/o eyes in his head.
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Because susanoo is more of a spiritual weapon hence why they can change its form think of it a part of their charka soul an
 

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Biggest Plot Hole : how did Madara transplant his eyes to Nagato, he awakened his eyes at a VERY OLD age and was stuck to the Gedo statue, so how did he manage to get Nagato and transplant his eyes into him, (b) how come Nagatos parents didn't notice ? they were alive at the time.

(2)
how did Kabuto get Madaras body? i mean... for what ever reason, he got it okay, fine.
why didn't Deidara get his Left eye back when he was reanimated? Nagatos eyes were taken away, but he got em back? Madara also got his eyes back when he was in edo form

(3)
Blind Madara and everything related to blind madara ... :/

(4)
How is Hidan immortal again? why don't other people do this? i mean its like ultra super hax?

Not really sure if they're plot holes, but, i would really appreciate an answer :D
1st - Zetsu can do job for Madara. So i believe that Zetsu took eyes and transplanted them to Nagato.
 

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so you would rather believe that Minato killed Kushina, when he could have saved her.!! :what:
No, Man at minato and kushina's time no body knew that kushina or any host can be saved by re-sealing kurama/bijuu into the host...

Dont you know that kurama told only to gaara that naruto can be saved if minato will seal his half into naruto

Only kurama knew that fact U_U

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I think i solved your misconception :)
 

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What most people said till now was a asspull, plot twist or plot shield, and the plot holes are usually really small that can be fixed
 

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2. not a plot hole. Obito was Madara's student, Obito might have preserved Madara's body


the question was 'Why didn't Deidara get his left eye back, (the one he trained to be immune to genjustu in anticipation for battling Itachi :/

And, erm, Madara gave his eyes to Nagato therefore he didn't have eyes? -its not a question of preserving the body and whatnot- so how was he revived with eyes? yeah, Kabuto said he experimented with Madaras body, so did Kabuto find a way to make a fake renningun O.O ???
 

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Because susanoo is more of a spiritual weapon hence why they can change its form think of it a part of their charka soul an

Yes. However, it's not exactly a spiritual weapon. The only two things classified as "spiritual weapons" in this series were Totsuka and Yata, which were owned by Itachi and are long gone with him.

They still need their MS/EMS eyes to awaken it regardless. An Uchiha's power resides with their eyes. Susanno'o is a body of chakra, yes. But saying that they don't need eyes to awaken it when in every occurance barring Maddy's they did seems sketchy to me.
 
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the question was 'Why didn't Deidara get his left eye back, (the one he trained to be immune to genjustu in anticipation for battling Itachi :/

And, erm, Madara gave his eyes to Nagato therefore he didn't have eyes? -its not a question of preserving the body and whatnot- so how was he revived with eyes? yeah, Kabuto said he experimented with Madaras body, so did Kabuto find a way to make a fake renningun O.O ???

Kabuto modifying Madara's corpse and making Madara revive as a young edo zombie... YES, that is a plothole. Because it was not explained how Kabuto did it.

So many plotholes in Naruto...hard to digest...
 

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This was really a retcon. Once I checked out the 3rd databook. According to its timeline, Hashirama died a considerable time before Tsunade was even born. But then, in the manga we see that he was the one who taught a toddler Tsunade how to gamble.

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Assuming that came from the anime, was that pic released prior or after 2008?

Because if it's prior, then that's an error in the databook. And it also depends on whether or not that was in the manga or not. Because the anime team has added filler scenes before which contradict the manga.

Edit: If that's not from any of the databooks, and I know it's not from the manga...then that image you posted is anime filler and doesn't amount to much, because it isn't affiliated with Kishi himself.
 
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Assuming that came from the anime, was that pic released prior or after 2008?

Because if it's prior, then that's an error in the databook. And it also depends on whether or not that was in the manga or not. Because the anime team has added filler scenes before which contradict the manga.

It was released during the Tsunade arc. So yes Prior to 2008 and well it is.

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Assuming that came from the anime, was that pic released prior or after 2008?

Because if it's prior, then that's an error in the databook. And it also depends on whether or not that was in the manga or not. Because the anime team has added filler scenes before which contradict the manga.

Edit: If that's not from any of the databooks, and I know it's not from the manga...then that image you posted is anime filler and doesn't amount to much, because it isn't affiliated with Kishi himself.

Most of the non-filler shippuden episodes can be considered canon, the anime doesn't deviate from the manga. Non-filler anime videos can be used as evidence or proof for feats/events
 

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People need to learn what is a plot hole and what is an asspull.

Assuming they are asspulls either.

OT: Hirizen knowing the namecode Yamato

Yamato went by many codenames according to Kakashi. Tenzo was another one.

Naruto surviving the tailed beast extraction when Spiral zetsu himself specifically mentioned that once the tailed beast is extracted the JINchurikii dies.!!

people can make speculations about how Naruto only had the half of kurama sealed within himself but at the end of the day its just a speculation.!!

so until Manga itself clears this UP, im taking it as a PLOTHOLE.!!

Reizon, stop attempting to troll about with your exclamation points. The Uzumakis have strong chakras and life forces great enough to restrain bijuus. This was shown when Obito extracted Kurama from Kushina and reelaborated when he was extracted from Naruto. It isn't canon fact that every person who has a bijuu extracted dies. Hagoromo did not die when the juubi was extracted. It's implied the reason it kills them is because they are fused to their chakras and life forces. Naruto having Kurama restored to him and Bee still having Gyuuki's tentacle restored their chakras and life force.

Not showing what ms ability madara and other uchiha had

Many Uchiha doujutsus were shown. Shisui, Itachi, Sasuke, Obito. Most of the others did not unlock MS, were not pivotal to the plot or were killed off. In regards to Madara, I agree to an extent, but he already had enough techniques and power in my opinion and Limbo may be his MS technique since he could use susano'o in conjunction with Rinnegan.

Backstabbing Juubi Jin Madara with triple rinnegan and shinju tree absorbed is not a plothole ?

When you have a time/space teleporation technique like Kamui that outsped the Rinnegan multiple times, not really. Not to mention when you are drunk with victory, out of your mind and completely trusting of your ally as Madara was. Furthermore, it was left on a cliffhanger, which essentially makes it an unresolved plot device, not a plot hole.

Same with Sasuke...His heart stabbed by his own sword and too much blood lost after that ...He still saved by kabuto that's a Biggest Plot hole

Hashirama stated he gave him his chakra and these shinobi are not normal human beings. They have super powers and super bodies.

Then probably him vs dedeira I mean he had no chakara yet he still summoned manda and escaped

Agree in part especially all the stuff Sasuke had to do in in only moments. Activate sharingan, summon manda, put him in a genjutsu and hide in him...nevertheless, he may have used the curse mark to absorb some of his life force or senjutsu to do it. The real problem I have with this event is how Orochimaru didn't come out when his chakra was depleted, yet he came out in the Itachi fight.

Hashirama knowing about Tsunade.

I believe it was shown in the manga and anime earlier on that Tsunade was a toddler before Hashirama died.

Biggest Plot Hole : how did Madara transplant his eyes to Nagato, he awakened his eyes at a VERY OLD age and was stuck to the Gedo statue, so how did he manage to get Nagato and transplant his eyes into him, (b) how come Nagatos parents didn't notice ? they were alive at the time.

Several possibilities. First and foremost is through Zetsu. Next is by traveling via the mazo, which is animate and can move above and under ground. In regards to his parents, Madara is a shinobi and Nagato's parents were normal people. He could have used stealth or genjutsu to get past them.

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how did Kabuto get Madaras body? i mean... for what ever reason, he got it okay, fine.

That, I can't answer other than he and Orochimaru traveling the world and searching every ruin they could find for jutsus, texts, shinobi remains, members of extinct clans and so on. Perhaps it will be answered if Orochimaru winds up being part of or behind this betrayal of Black Zetsu's.

why didn't Deidara get his Left eye back when he was reanimated?

I was unaware he lost it?

Nagatos eyes were taken away, but he got em back? Madara also got his eyes back when he was in edo form

Edo Tensei is a space/time summoning technique that manipulates reality and summons the souls and chakras of dead shinobi back into a sacrificed vessel, giving them back their bodies and abilities in the form of clay.

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Blind Madara and everything related to blind madara ... :/

My interpretation of blind susano'o is that Madara had the gedo rods inside him, the same ones from the mazou and that pain used to send out his chakra to his avatars. With this, he was able to receive the chakra from his rinnegans, both in the possession of the zetsus, also made from the mazou's power and in the vicinity at the time. He also used these to restrain Hashirama's movements when he was revived. Others believe it is only unlocked by the Rinnegan and can still be used without it due to the chakra in the mind and body, through I believe that to be illogical.

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How is Hidan immortal again? why don't other people do this? i mean its like ultra super hax?

Like Orochimaru, he experimented on his body using an unknown kinjutsu of unknown origin, supposedly used by this jashin cult of his. Apparently no one including Orochimaru knew of it. That, or if they did, there may possibly have been a downside to it. Hidan claims you must surrender your life to Jashin while using this jutsu, and Orochimaru is his own man supposedly. The jutsu is not without it's flaws. The bearer is still destructible and the jutsu cannot last unless the bearer feeds himself as its a rapidly regenerating jutsu that requires chakra and metabolism. Supposedly Kishimoto wanted to elaborate more on Hidan and his backstory, but the editors forced him to rush he and his fight in order to get to Sasuke faster. The jutsu and Jashin himself may also be a future plot device, though I wouldn't hold my breath.
 

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