SM Hashirama vs All of Akatsuki (except Obito)

[LuckyMan]

-Madara's Susanoo simply jumped high. Not any kind of evidence that it moves fast let alone faster than Madara himself.

-Sasuke's Susanoo=/=Madara's Susanoo. Sasuke's Susanoo has clearly shown to be more agile. His Susanoo is jumping around throwing attacks fast enough to force Juubito to block, and his Perfect Susanoo is jumping from rock to rock while Madara's Perfect Susanoo simply walks. His V3 Clones during the Gokage fight? They just walked. They never showed any kind of high speed movement.


Why would his Susanoo need to move as fast as himself to keep up with Naruto's Kurama Avatar? Which also doesn't move as fast as he does.

It jumped on a couple rocks with Madara as he jumped. I will try to find the scan for you in a bit. It does not need any high speed movement feats because of that. That fact it did that means it moves how Madara and when Madara moves, which is fast.

Why wouldn't Narutos Kurama avatar move as fast as he does?


Edit- Here is the actual scans, I even linked the animation for you since it shows what happens frame by frame:

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And heres the animation frame by frame, theres literally no difference. Notice it moved just as fast as Madara did, when he did and how he did:

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[KidGamer65]

It jumped on a couple rocks with Madara as he jumped. I will try to find the scan for you in a bit. It does not need any high speed movement feats because of that. That fact it did that means it moves how Madara and when Madara moves, which is fast.

Why wouldn't Narutos Kurama avatar move as fast as he does?

His Susanoo has legs. It jumps on its own. [

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There is nothing that implies it does. Kurama Avatar can't Shunshin, Naruto can. Main reason why Naruto will always move faster than his construct.

 

[LuckyMan]

His Susanoo has legs. It jumps on its own. [

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There is nothing that implies it does. Kurama Avatar can't Shunshin, Naruto can. Main reason why Naruto will always move faster than his construct.

How does it jump on its own? Does it has its own mind now? I edited my post above yours, read the edited part, its basically the same thing you linked but I have the animation catching the scene unfold frame by frame too.

Naruto has never used the bodyflicker either.

 

[Conspirator.]

LOL @ people doubting hashirama's speed. He was able to stalemate Madara in a CQC bout in base mode(and madara has sharingan precog to help him) This is the same Madara that outright blitzed SM naruto. So yeah, Hashirama is in the same speed tier as Madara(pre juubi jin of course) and that makes him faster than all the akatsuki with the possible exception of Itachi(but even that's debatable-not that it will make a difference to the outcome.) Hashirama still shits on the Akatsuki.

 

[Kamui Sama]

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[Braiyan]

Base Hashirama has a

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strong enough to tank

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, catch a Perfect Susano'o

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, constructs that can catch Tailed Beast Bombs and the ability to

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large,

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forests, along with his ability to spam clones and merge into the forests he creates. Those skills alone make him a threat for most Akatsuki members not named Pain, Itachi, or Kisame (not counting Obito since he is not a part of this matchup), but that is just Base Hashirama.

SM Hashirama is another monster altogether, with the ability to drop

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on any unsuspecting Akatsuki member whilst he turtles up in

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and defeats them all with Wood Dragons, or goes for overkill with Shinsuusenju. Bansho Tenin is not going to draw Hashirama in when he can call up Mokuton to catch himself, whereas he can most likely survive Chibaku Tensei via turtling up in one of his Mokuton constructs and destroying it from the inside. All of Akatsuki's other attacks can be blocked or overpowered, whereas most of them can be taken out with Base Hashirama's moveset.

 

[Voidstep]

Naruto has never used the bodyflicker either.

are you sure??


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[Brother Numpsay]

When I see any kind of Iron Sand attracting metallic objects without having to magnetize them first, then you'll be speaking the truth, until then, you are merely posting stuff that belongs in the fanfiction section.

Except Kazekage doesn't apply to what Toroi has to do, because it will happen through a magnetic field (which what makes the difference between Toroi use and Kazekage). This shouldn't have to be explained, what you need to question is the range the Kazekage can make.

 

[Unorthodox]

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Kidgamer why waste your time with ejblack and his magnet agrument ss stomps them

 

[KidGamer65]

How does it jump on its own? Does it has its own mind now? I edited my post above yours, read the edited part, its basically the same thing you linked but I have the animation catching the scene unfold frame by frame too.

Naruto has never used the bodyflicker either.

Madara makes it jump obviously, but that doesn't change the fact it jumps by itself, and Madara never moved his own body, he had Susanoo jump in both panels.

Lol what?

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Either way, by feats Naruto moves faster than his avatar.

Except Kazekage doesn't apply to what Toroi has to do, because it will happen through a magnetic field (which what makes the difference between Toroi use and Kazekage). This shouldn't have to be explained, what you need to question is the range the Kazekage can make.

He converts his chakra into a magnetic force and uses it to control his Iron Sand. That is all that was stated in the manga and that's all that he can do unless you have feats of anything else.

 

[Kamui Sama]

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Kidgamer why waste your time with ejblack and his magnet agrument ss stomps them

lol damn that's crazy

 

[Shiroyasha]

Are you serious?? SM Hashirama is on equal footing with Madara who happens to be stronger than the whole of Akatsuki combined. Hashirama Solos. Buddha Statue GG.

 

[BlackFlame44]

are you sure??


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Maybe he's just that damn fast