The IT in 678 seems to contradict it's previous portrayal

[Alfred Pennyworth]

according to the previous portrayal of the infinite tsukuyomi , the whole world would be dragged into an imaginary world created by the genjutsu caster (in this case madara)

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->everyone right now should be living in a world designed to madara's liking , a unified world . Here , obito even said he could make naruto the hokage(he's planning on casting IT):

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however , in 678 , everyone is just living their own dreams , where the world is designed to their own respective preferences . how could madara possible know all their wishes and create them instantly ? even if he managed , there would be contradictions , as everyone's dream differs : e.g. tsunade is beside Dan in one dream while at the same time in another she's in a wedding.

this is so contradictory.....but which version(assuming they're different) do you prefer as an audience ?

 

[HENI]

they are all in their own worlds. lucid dreaming.

 

[ROHAN]

I think IT is only in the initial stages, the final stage has yet to come when everyone will become one.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

they are all in their own worlds. lucid dreaming.

which is not the way the previous chapters implied it to be

 

[Dantee]

I think you're catching on late. I thought most people knew IT was going to be a matrix re run.

 

[HENI]

which is not the way the previous chapters implied it to be

i always thought it would be like that.

 

[Joshutsu]

which is not the way the previous chapters implied it to be

It was shown in a previous chapter. I dont remember which maybe 5+ chapters ago we saw that the tree would wrap up the individual and they would logically have their individual dream.

I mean there's no point to continuously shine the light after everyone is caught and contained by the tree tbh

 

[Umari Senju]

I think IT is only in the initial stages, the final stage has yet to come when everyone will become one.

You could be on to something here. Maybe everyone's dreamworld will eventually coalesce into one dream that Madara...erh...Kaguya will have direct manipulation over?

 

[ROHAN]

A thing to note is that Madara himself didn't fall under IT. Thus, there is no one to unite their dreams into one.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

No when your under genjutsu the user controls your mind and basically knows everything about you. You obviously didn't hear when harogomo explained it . The God tree using their own power while keeping them alive. They are all in there own dreams. But connected thru the God tree. There no contridication your just slow.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

I think you're catching on late. I thought most people knew IT was going to be a matrix re run.

never watched matrix films

 

[G Godly 0 forms 0]

according to the previous portrayal of the infinite tsukuyomi , the whole world would be dragged into an imaginary world created by the genjutsu caster (in this case madara)

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->everyone right now should be living in a world designed to madara's liking , a unified world . Here , obito even said he could make naruto the hokage(he's planning on casting IT):

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however , in 678 , everyone is just living their own dreams , where the world is designed to their own respective preferences . how could madara possible know all their wishes and create them instantly ? even if he managed , there would be contradictions , as everyone's dream differs : e.g. tsunade is beside Dan in one dream while at the same time in another she's in a wedding.

this is so contradictory.....but which version(assuming they're different) do you prefer as an audience ?

I suppose by giving user, the victims jutsu, it gives them the full knowledge, and not just knowledge in jutsu

 

[KisuneUchiha]

IT is everything that I expected it to be...

When he said everything will be "One" he meant they will all be connected to the Shinju, not that everybody would be in the SAME dream world.

 

[Alfred Pennyworth]

No when your under genjutsu the user controls your mind and basically knows everything about you. You obviously didn't hear when harogomo explained it . The God tree using their own power while keeping them alive. They are all in there own dreams. But connected thru the God tree. There no contridication your just slow.

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it continuously show dreams to ppl and use their own powers to keep them alive<-I really am just too slow to catch on how it implies they can have their own dreams

It was shown in a previous chapter. I dont remember which maybe 5+ chapters ago we saw that the tree would wrap up the individual and they would logically have their individual dream.

I mean there's no point to continuously shine the light after everyone is caught and contained by the tree tbh

the same as the above...I really don't get how it relates to ppl hving their own dreams . they could be wrapped up so that the caster can continuously control what they dream about . Also , madara said he would create his own dream world and drag everyone into it

I suppose by giving user, the victims jutsu, it gives them the full knowledge, and not just knowledge in jutsu

if the dreams are unified there'd be contradictions

IT is everything that I expected it to be...

When he said everything will be "One" he meant they will all be connected to the Shinju, not that everybody would be in the SAME dream world.

how so ?

 

[AnimusOra]

The only reason i can see why kishi made the genjutsu have the individuals have their own dream was to not make all of this exactly like the Matrix. Everything up until now with the illusion is exactly like those movies. Mankind is being used for energy and they live in a fantasy life stuck in their own brain

 

[Joshutsu]

the same as the above...I really don't get how it relates to ppl hving their own dreams . they could be wrapped up so that the caster can continuously control what they dream about . Also , madara said he would create his own dream world and drag everyone into it

We aren't entirely sure if they arent unified yet since they are all a part of one tree but that would cause clash of dreams so i doubt. However if he could control what people dream about he would not actually be pushing the peace thing cuz everyone has the side to their happy ending and thats what IT was to me all along when was it his intention to control what they dream about.

I guess on the part about his genjutsu world making you feel like he would be in it is another thing. I never expected a world like what you might have cuz in the end its still a genjutsu, but i can see your point.

 

[Slowpoke]

Since when have they started the Infinite Tsukuyomi? ​

 

[Magika]

Coz ninshu connects all spirits tsukuyomi focus on just the victims spirit good vs bad

 

[ROHAN]

Since when have they started the Infinite Tsukuyomi? ​

Run away before you are spoiled.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

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it continuously show dreams to ppl and use their own powers to keep them alive<-I really am just too slow to catch on how it implies they can have their own dreams

the same as the above...I really don't get how it relates to ppl hving their own dreams . they could be wrapped up so that the caster can continuously control what they dream about . Also , madara said he would create his own dream world and drag everyone into it

if the dreams are unified there'd be contradictions

how so ?

It could be inferred since he said everyone would be happy with the IT for starters, secondary, When Obito said he would make Naruto Hokage in the dream world he just meant that Naruto would be Hokage in NARUTO'S dream. Especially since it was also Obito's dream to become Hokage, so why would he make someone else Hokage when he wants to be Hokage...

Those were my reasons to believe that everyone would have different dreams