Jiraiya vs. Itachi

[Beans2]

Nah just a little bit of other stuff. A shitload of your stuff is spot on tho; it's actually quite good.

thank you in an actual encounter though Jiraiya wouldn't start in sage mode or have full intel so i suppose he could only win with these hypothetical conditions

 

[LuckyMan]

Which is exactly why "Healthy Itachi" should not be used in the versus colosseum. As to what Healthy Itachi could and could not do is mostly speculation, be prepared to accept and understand everyone's perception and point of view on the matter.

I understand what you are saying, But I only made Itachi with no cancer so he would not be constantly coughing up blood through out the fight giving Jman and opening to kill him off quickly, thats it. If I wanted Itachi to have more chakra I would have just made him Edo or gave him like 2 free uses of MS jutsu that don't take his chakra. I'm surprised so many think ''Healthy Itachi'' has some immense chakra hiding inside him. It baffles me.

 

[Jessika Uzumaki]

Considering nothing in Jiraiya's entire arsenal can effectively destroy Susanoo (or bypass Yata for that matter), Jiraiya takes the loss here. Given that Itachi is healthy, Jiraiya won't be able to play the survival game and let Itachi wear himself out. Continued Susanoo & Amaterasu assaults put J-Man down after a good five minutes of stalling.

Umm. Jiriaya would win. I cant bring up the proof b/c I still dont know how to post pics when replying, but when Naruto and Jiriaya were in Tanzuku Town to look for Tsunade as well as to train Naruto(To learn the Rasengun). Itachi and Kisame were given an order to obtain Naruto and bring him back to the Akastuki. Meanwhile when Itachi and Kisame were looking for Naruto they saw that Jiriaya was there and Itachi said that he win if they were to fight head on but he also said that theirs always a weakness in every justu(Said that to Naruto when he and Bee were fighting Nagato) And Itachi wasn't in good health either,(Shippuden) When "Madara" told Sasuke the truth about Itachi he had said that he lived a life through Medication in order to survive when Sasuke meet to fight him that way when He "lost" Sasuke would be the avenger/hero for the Hidden Leaf b/c he defeated the guy who whip out the Uchiha Clan. Their's more I can say but Im tired of writing.... <3 lol

 

[Beans2]

Umm. Jiriaya would win. I cant bring up the proof b/c I still dont know how to post pics when replying, but when Naruto and Jiriaya were in Tanzuku Town to look for Tsunade as well as to train Naruto(To learn the Rasengun). Itachi and Kisame were given an order to obtain Naruto and bring him back to the Akastuki. Meanwhile when Itachi and Kisame were looking for Naruto they saw that Jiriaya was there and Itachi said that he win if they were to fight head on but he also said that theirs always a weakness in every justu(Said that to Naruto when he and Bee were fighting Nagato) And Itachi wasn't in good health either,(Shippuden) When "Madara" told Sasuke the truth about Itachi he had said that he lived a life through Medication in order to survive when Sasuke meet to fight him that way when He "lost" Sasuke would be the avenger/hero for the Hidden Leaf b/c he defeated the guy who whip out the Uchiha Clan. Their's more I can say but Im tired of writing.... <3 lol

+rep for remembering the name of that fodder town

 

[~Sky~]

Itachi wins this fight, with a lot of difficulty.

 

[Jessika Uzumaki]

+rep for remembering the name of that fodder town

Thanks! <3 lol

 

[Black Wolf]

Healthy Itachi can be seen as the one we saw in Part I. He used two Suitons, an exploding Kage Bunshin, two Tsukiyomis, and an Amaterasu . . . and he hardly broke a sweat. The Itachi we saw in the Hebi Sasuke battle was huffing and puffing from far less tasking output, not to mention Zetsu's commentary clearly implying Itachi's performance was below par.

 

[~Sky~]

Healthy Itachi can be seen as the one we saw in Part I. He used two Suitons, an exploding Kage Bunshin, two Tsukiyomis, and an Amaterasu . . . and he hardly broke a sweat. The Itachi we saw in the Hebi Sasuke battle was huffing and puffing from far less tasking output, not to mention Zetsu's commentary clearly implying Itachi's performance was below par.

It's pretty odd, despite all his health concerns, he still outlasted Hebi Sasuke.

 

[blazekev90]

It's pretty odd, despite all his health concerns, he still outlasted Hebi Sasuke.

sasuke's jutsu used more chakra as his body hadn't adjusted to Orochimaru's techniques.

OT: either one could win, but it'll be high difficulty

 

[Black Wolf]

He outlasted Hebi Sasuke due to efficient usage of jutsu, not necessarily having more chakra. Think of it this way; Sasuke had more chakra, but he was a low mileage car as opposed to Itachi, who was less of a gas guzzler in his usage of techniques and made each one count more.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Umm. Jiriaya would win. I cant bring up the proof b/c I still dont know how to post pics when replying, but when Naruto and Jiriaya were in Tanzuku Town to look for Tsunade as well as to train Naruto(To learn the Rasengun). Itachi and Kisame were given an order to obtain Naruto and bring him back to the Akastuki. Meanwhile when Itachi and Kisame were looking for Naruto they saw that Jiriaya was there and Itachi said that he win if they were to fight head on but he also said that theirs always a weakness in every justu(Said that to Naruto when he and Bee were fighting Nagato) And Itachi wasn't in good health either,(Shippuden) When "Madara" told Sasuke the truth about Itachi he had said that he lived a life through Medication in order to survive when Sasuke meet to fight him that way when He "lost" Sasuke would be the avenger/hero for the Hidden Leaf b/c he defeated the guy who whip out the Uchiha Clan. Their's more I can say but Im tired of writing.... <3 lol

None of this even remotely serves as a liable counter for Susanoo or Amaterasu. The Jiraiya / Itachi hype is meaningless in the face of solid feats.

Pervy Sage is roasted and sealed (in that order).

 

[blazekev90]

None of this even remotely serves as a liable counter for Susanoo or Amaterasu.

Pervy Sage is roasted and sealed.

He has counters, don't be so simple minded as if neither requires prep.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

He has counters, don't be so simple minded as if neither requires prep.

The person I was replying to listed none of these "counters", just the null void, overused Itachi & Jiraiya example from part 1.

 

[Inert Brian]

With intel full on both sides, the game changing aspect is the location.

Jman would win this fight in a close quarters, indoor area such as where he fought Pain.

Since the fight is out in the open Itachi takes this, Frog genjutsu isn't working when Amaterasu lights Jman to a crisp.

Itachi is also more tactical. He's shown to use clones against Part 1 Kakashi, Hebi Sasuke, KCM Naruto, and SM Kabuto. With intel full, Itachi will make more out of what he has on Jman, opposed to Jman making more with full intel on Itachi.

 

[blazekev90]

Counters, which the person I was replying to did not post at all.

Well seeing as Jman is your fave i would've hopes you were informed his abilities and sharingan activation being easily detected. Thus allowing one as Jman to react according.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Well seeing as Jman is your fave i would've hopes you were informed his abilities and sharingan activation being easily detected. Thus allowing one as Jman to react according.

Detecting Amaterasu does not stop it from completely roasting him, and detecting Susanoo does nothing either. Noticing a threat is pointless when you can do nothing to stop it.

 

[blazekev90]

Detecting Amaterasu does not stop it from completely roasting him, and detecting Susanoo does nothing either. Noticing a threat is pointless when you can do nothing to stop it.

It gives him the ability to counter, not dodge. We've ppl intercept or attempt to do so. That's the key for a slow opponent to handle the likes of amatersau

Susnaoo sinks. There hasn't been a counter displayed, so else Pein would've do so.

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

It gives him the ability to counter, not dodge. We've ppl intercept or attempt to do so. That's the key for a slow opponent to handle the likes of amatersau

At 50 Meters, arcoss the distance of the Hashirama and Madara statues, Jiraiya has nothing in his arsenal to prevent Amaterasu from happening. . . nothing at all.

Susnaoo sinks. There hasn't been a counter displayed, so else Pein would've do so.

Given the location and starting distance, it's safe to assume Yomi Numa won't come into play at all.

 

[blazekev90]

At 50 Meters, arcoss the distance of the Hashirama and Madara statues, Jiraiya has nothing in his arsenal to prevent Amaterasu from happening. . . nothing at all.



Given the location and starting distance, it's safe to assume Yomi Numa won't come into play at all.

Jman has shown a variety on long distance jutst. The advantage he has is the ability to use Budda's arms to either further and shorten the distance between them?

Idk about seeing Susnaoo on top of another lol

 

[Legendary Toad Sage]

Jman has shown a variety on long distance jutst. The advantage he has is the ability to use Budda's arms to either further and shorten the distance between them?

Idk about seeing Susnaoo on top of another lol

I'm not entirely sure what the bold is referring too but,

this is location right here...

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Anyways Itachi was able to produce this

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while literally on his deathbed. Jiraiya is toasted. Inside a complex or complicated building/structure, Jiraiya has much more favorable odds, but in the open with no immediate cover or means of escape, he hasn't much of a chance.