USA and gun rights

[Ōkami]

You don't think gun control would limit crime at all?

100% of potential criminals would still be motivated to commit these crimes and would have a 100% success rate?

I would like some statistics on crimes committed using legally obtained firearms and those obtained illegally.

Ya know some gangs will ram their cars through a gun store and clear the place of all they need in a matter of minutes.

 

[demon of the leaf]

Most deaths are caused by teens who get the guns illegally teens that's where a law should be made right there

 

[xPHARAOHx]

Gun laws don't stop naughty people from getting guns, they can just steal them.

Gun laws only prevent the good people from getting guns and protecting themselves from the naughty people.

No, this isn't true. Somebody like this kid probably wouldn't have the gourds to steal a gun. A whole lot less people would go through the troubles of stealing one, because there would be the possibility of busting them before they even get the chance to use it.

Most deaths are caused by teens who get the guns illegally teens that's where a law should be made right there

People from ages of 18-24 have the highest rate of gun related homicides. Not teenagers.

 

[The Necromancer]

Ya know some gangs will ram their cars through a gun store and clear the place of all they need in a matter of minutes.

When not even good people can get guns, there is not such thing as a gun store.

And what about the otherwise average 18 year old kid trying to shoot his dad? Where is he getting a gun? The black market?

No, this isn't true. Somebody like this kid probably wouldn't have the gourds to steal a gun. A whole lot less people would go through the troubles of stealing one, because there would be the possibility of busting them before they even get the chance to use it.

Exactly. People are idiots.

It's like everyone believes that if guns were illegal, people would just find them and steal them without fail... I sure as hell couldn't just go outside and find some PCP to steal. Same rules apply.

 

[demon of the leaf]

Pharro you don't know a thing there's a black market in the alleyways to buy assault rifles and machinguns from gangs it's very very easy to get a gun illegally and teens have broken into gunshops though the windows

 

[The Necromancer]

Pharro you don't know a thing there's a black market in the alleyways to buy assault rifles and machinguns from gangs it's very very easy to get a gun illegally and teens have broken into gunshops though the windows

Ah yes. The black market store on every corner of every city that everyone has access to at all times. I forgot about that one. When Walmart stops selling guns, that place is gonna make it big.

 

[demon of the leaf]

Pharro come on over to the bad side of Chicago and your mind will change real quick because that statistic you gave is wrong right then and there cause the teen years is where they start the killing even if the guns are illegal there's gun runners who run guns past the boarders plan as day so even if you think that little law will save you tell that to the many dead people from these guns

 

[The Necromancer]

Pharro come on over to the bad side of Chicago and your mind will change real quick because that statistic you gave is wrong right then and there cause the teen years is where they start the killing even if the guns are illegal there's gun runners who run guns past the boarders plan as day so even if you think that little law will save you tell that to the many dead people from these guns

Sure, some guns may stay around, but many crimes will be prevented with proper gun control.

Not everyone who kills somebody is a member of a gun-running gang with filed off serial numbers on their guns. A vast majority of crimes are committed by every-day people with legally obtained weaponry. :|

 

[xPHARAOHx]

Pharro you don't know a thing there's a black market in the alleyways to buy assault rifles and machinguns from gangs it's very very easy to get a gun illegally and teens have broken into gunshops though the windows

So you honestly think this rich kid would be able to go to somebody and buy a gun from them. He was to anti-asocial to do so, and if he had tried, they wouldn't have soled him one just based on the way he dressed and acted.

Pharro come on over to the bad side of Chicago and your mind will change real quick because that statistic you gave is wrong right then and there cause the teen years is where they start the killing even if the guns are illegal there's gun runners who run guns past the boarders plan as day so even if you think that little law will save you tell that to the many dead people from these guns

Statistics can't lie. I'm okay I think I'll stay right where I am and not go to Chicago. Your argument is very weak. People from the UK can buy guns illegally too, but there homicide rate via gun is very low. It's a known fact that a lot less people would have guns if they were harder to obtain, thus lowering the amount of killings via gun.

 

[Ōkami]

No, this isn't true. Somebody like this kid probably wouldn't have the gourds to steal a gun. A whole lot less people would go through the troubles of stealing one, because there would be the possibility of busting them before they even get the chance to use it.

So he can kill six people no problem but can't steal a gun?

Just think about that for a second.

 

[Fresco]

Didn't the guy stab some people as well? Should we be allowed to have knives?

 

[demon of the leaf]

Americans are a differant breed then uk when there's a will theres a way statistics never lie but they can be wrong

 

[Ōkami]

When not even good people can get guns, there is not such thing as a gun store.

And what about the otherwise average 18 year old kid trying to shoot his dad? Where is he getting a gun? The black market?

You really don't much about this world do you?

Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's unattainable.

Be it drugs, guns hell even humans.

 

[Agumon]

Didn't the guy stab some people as well? Should we be allowed to have knives?

You need knives to do other tasks, that's completely different. >.>

 

[Fresco]

Really, you can't stop people with psychological problems from killing people just with gun control. There are many different ways to take lives. Logically, the problem is with the person themself. Elliot could have bombed that sorority house. He could have stabbed those three girls like he stabbed the rest of his victims.

 

[The Necromancer]

You really don't much about this world do you?

Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's unattainable.

Be it drugs, guns hell even humans.

And you think it's obtainable by 100% of people?

 

[xPHARAOHx]

Didn't the guy stab some people as well? Should we be allowed to have knives?

Knives are used everyday for something other than killing, like cooking for example. A guns primary purpose is to kill.

 

[Ōkami]

And you think it's obtainable by 100% of people?

Yes I do.

Anyone can attain anything.

 

[The Necromancer]

Yes I do.

Anyone can attain anything.

That's foolish.

 

[xPHARAOHx]

You really don't much about this world do you?

Just because something is illegal doesn't mean it's unattainable.

Be it drugs, guns hell even humans.

But these types of people are very weary about who they sell to, so they don't get busted, or set up. No dealer in their right mind would've ever trusted this kid. He was to much of a person who seemed like a rich stuck up little snob. Still you are saying I don't know a whole lot about the world, but I actually do. If you think that the government making it harder to obtain a fire-arm wouldn't have any effect on homicide rates via guns, than that's just ignorant.