top 3 Raw talented shinobi

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1. Orochimaru.
2. Tobirama.
3. Itachi or Minato I guess.
 

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Top 3 ninjas that had the most potential since they were born and have raw talent and non borrowed powers?


1) Itachi
2) Minato
3) Hashirama


the reason i put hashirama 3rd is because he was no were near itachi and minato at that age, over time he grew stronger , age plays a big part in this topic



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Itachi was an Uchiha...he had Sharingan
Hashi, had Wood


my 3:

Minato
Kakashi
Guy
 

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With their own powers (no ashura, given power-ups, etc.)
1. Itachi
2. Tobirama
3. Minato
 

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Minato - Only top tier without particular bloodline limit, mastering techniques better than their creators, creating his own, and been said several times in this manga to be the greatest potential ever, even by the Sage

Hashirama - Only Asura reincarnation who always was stronger than the Indra reincarnation and all that due to his powers alone(without Biju), but with a strong senju bloodline and DNA favoring him over most characters

Itachi - A genius with great potential minus the Uchiha bloodline limit favoring him a lot
 

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Hashirama - Mokuton constructs. Sure, he didn't really have to do anything to attain this power, but he still fought day in and day out with this power, giving him mega battle experience, and that factors in majorly. Also has Sage Mode.

Tobirama - confirmed creator of 3, possibly 4, techniques. All 3 techniques are OP as heck too. Extremely smart fighter as well.

Itachi/Gai -Itachi's easily one of the smartest fighters in the manga and he was a genius in utilizing his Sharingan and genjutsu techniques. Gai's on there because he worked his ass off and that allowed him to content with Juubi hosts, couldn't care whether he has to die to attain that power, because only Gai can do that. On top of that, he has no access to ninjutsu or genjutsu, making him and Lee probably the most disadvantaged characters in the manga.
 

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Hashirama - Mokuton constructs. Sure, he didn't really have to do anything to attain this power, but he still fought day in and day out with this power, giving him mega battle experience, and that factors in majorly. Also has Sage Mode.

Tobirama - confirmed creator of 3, possibly 4, techniques. All 3 techniques are OP as heck too. Extremely smart fighter as well.

Itachi/Gai -Itachi's easily one of the smartest fighters in the manga and he was a genius in utilizing his Sharingan and genjutsu techniques. Gai's on there because he worked his ass off and that allowed him to content with Juubi hosts, couldn't care whether he has to die to attain that power, because only Gai can do that. On top of that, he has no access to ninjutsu or genjutsu, making him and Lee probably the most disadvantaged characters in the manga.

What does inborn power, battle experience or hard work have to do with RAW TALENT?
 

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What does inborn power, battle experience or hard work have to do with RAW TALENT?
Because hard work and battle experience all plays a factor in talent? Itachi wasn't born with the ability to use his Katon techs, he had to work on them. You can't be smart in battle unless you've actually fought.
 

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Because hard work and battle experience all plays a factor in talent? Itachi wasn't born with the ability to use his Katon techs, he had to work on them. You can't be smart in battle unless you've actually fought.

It still has nothing to do with raw talent. I'm not saying that Gai and Hashirama weren't talented, but this is top3 and from your list only Tobirama should be placed there.
 

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It still has nothing to do with raw talent. I'm not saying that Gai and Hashirama weren't talented, but this is top3 and from your list only Tobirama should be placed there.
You know this is a matter of opinions and perspectives?
 

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You know this is a matter of opinions and perspectives?

Not in this specific case, since you clearly don't know what raw talent means... Don't feel offended, but seriously... you would've gotten away with Hashirama, but Gai?
 

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1)Itachi
2)Orochimaru
3)Minato
others-Neji,Sasuke,Kakashi ect.. :p
 

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Not in this specific case, since you clearly don't know what raw talent means... Don't feel offended, but seriously... you would've gotten away with Hashirama, but Gai?
And you're getting mixed up between potential and talent. I find Gai to be an extremely talented shinobi, considering he created his own martial art style and can effectively use all 8 Gates. Just because he had to bust his ass to get there doesn't mean he's not talented, it means he barely had any potential.
 

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Nattana, this IS an opinionated topic. There are many various interpretations of "talent".
 

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Hiruzen is a no brainer, No KKG, No clan with speical chakra and so on. Mastered all forms of shinobi combat 5's in Nin/Tai and gen (only person to do so in the current databooks), Knows all 5 elements and so on.

No explanation needed for itachi.

Not to sure of a 3rd really.
 

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I would say Madara&Hashirama, but that is incorrect since they possesed Indra and Ashura.

Itachi is quite talented, Guy is complete beast.
 
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