Sasuke's Rinnegan Misunderstood or Overrated

[llxFLaMe]

Then why did Sasuke ask Tobirama to teleport him to Madara?

He's not using a s/t technique...

It's most likely inzanagi.

I mean it's better in a 1v1 fight in close range combat he doesn't need prep like minato does and izanagi is a sharingan technique not Rinnegan

 

[Conspirator.]

The preta path, deva path, and outer path are all very much still in play.

No they are not-since Madara can use them as well. There's literally no point.

 

[Mad Daz]

Nice post but you needa use much more paragraph breaks or itll look like a wall of text. I think his eye is both misunderstood and overrated by most sasuke fans tbh.

 

[kaiyokoon]

I mean it's better in a 1v1 fight in close range combat he doesn't need prep like minato does

I see the no-prep argument alot, and while that may seem valid initially... we've never seen the "prep" hinder Minato in combat or Tobirama for that matter. Aside from that, the seals have countless uses once applied, they aren't a drawback, they're a valuable tool in their own right. Sasuke being able to take Madara in close range is the result of him being able to deal with Madara in close quarters without being dematerialized and due to having a physical speed-boost from his powerup, not simply because he's teleporting.

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No they are not-since Madara can use them as well. There's literally no point.

That's like Itachi saying, Sasuke can use amaterasu/susanoo, no point in me using it.

 

[llxFLaMe]

If you'll recall, Raikage failed to predict where Minato was going to teleport to, and it is far from predictable when the user can place additional seals any time he chooses quite discretely. Obito was about to use the human path on one of Danzo's body guards earlier in the series, and he was using the six paths technique with the edo-jins, and madara being the original owner of the eye should be able to do at least what obito can do with a single eye, granted that didn't display all of the rinnegan abilities it displayed some of them, as opposed to none at all as it stands with Sasuke. True it was stated that both eyes unlock the full power, that could easily be referring to the magnitude of the power of the techniques, not the techniques themselves. In Sasuke's case, it is very doubtful he will get a second eye, I think whatever power he has now is all he will have, and if he has anything else it's a matter of him not showing it yet, as opposed to not having access to it.

Well sasuke has sharingan in his right eye so predicting ftg would be easier for him... But tbh sasuke really doesn't need to use other Rinnegan techniques right now and if he could he wouldn't have an advantage cause madara would be able to do the same thing and know the technique so I think it's best if sasuke show something new with his Rinnegan cause if he does use some base Rinnegan techniques and they are the same as pain that would be boring... He would need to show new powers cause his Rinnegan is different anyway ...

 

[Conspirator.]

I see the no-prep argument alot, and while that may seem valid initially... we've never seen the "prep" hinder Minato in combat or Tobirama for that matter. Aside from that, the seals have countless uses once applied, they aren't a drawback, they're a valuable tool in their own right. Sasuke being able to take Madara in close range is the result of him being able to deal with Madara in close quarters without being dematerialized and due to having a physical speed-boost from his powerup, not simply because he's teleporting.

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That's like Itachi saying, Sasuke can use amaterasu/susanoo, no point in me using it.

That's a crappy example, because sasuke is superior to itachi in nearly every way. Madara is the juubi's jin-if the both use CT, who do you think will come out on top? Exactly. Sasuke is better off using his rinnegan techniques that are "different".

 

[kaiyokoon]

Well sasuke has sharingan in his right eye so predicting ftg would be easier for him... But tbh sasuke really doesn't need to use other Rinnegan techniques right now and if he could he wouldn't have an advantage cause madara would be able to do the same thing and know the technique so I think it's best if sasuke show something new with his Rinnegan cause if he does use some base Rinnegan techniques and they are the same as pain that would be boring... He would need to show new powers cause his Rinnegan is different anyway ...

This isn't about sasuke vs ftg, but nonetheless Obito had a sharingan and it didn't allow him to anticipate ftg. See above as far as not using the rinnegan abilities just because the opponent can. It's no more boring for him to use them than for madara to be using the preta path, not using practical techniques simply because they've been used before by another user is just silly. His rinnegan is diferent but it's still a rinnegan.

 

[llxFLaMe]

I see the no-prep argument alot, and while that may seem valid initially... we've never seen the "prep" hinder Minato in combat or Tobirama for that matter. Aside from that, the seals have countless uses once applied, they aren't a drawback, they're a valuable tool in their own right. Sasuke being able to take Madara in close range is the result of him being able to deal with Madara in close quarters without being dematerialized and due to having a physical speed-boost from his powerup, not simply because he's teleporting.

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Minato tried ftg on madara before he absorbed the tree and madara countered it with ease but couldn't counter sasuke after he got a boost in power from absorbing the tree... Sasuke teleportation must be more effective if even madara was trying to escape from Sasukes range

 

[kaiyokoon]

That's a crappy example, because sasuke is superior to itachi in nearly every way. Madara is the juubi's jin-if the both use CT, who do you think will come out on top? Exactly. Sasuke is better off using his rinnegan techniques that are "different".

Itachi's Susanoo is hax, it is not inferior (I was not referring to current sasuke in that analogy btw), and what would the difference in power levels of the user have to do with the effectiveness of something like the preta path?

 

[llxFLaMe]

Sasuke doesn't need to use base Rinnegan techniques it's pointless cause he won't have an advantage... Maybe if he was fighting naruto or someone else but madara would counter everyone with his own... So sasuke should just use his own Rinnegan abilities

 

[kaiyokoon]

Sasuke doesn't need to use base Rinnegan techniques it's pointless cause he won't have an advantage... Maybe if he was fighting naruto or someone else but madara would counter everyone with his own... So sasuke should just use his own Rinnegan abilities

The "it's pointless to use it because he can use it" argument is completely fallacious. By that logic Madara shouldn't use CT because Sasuke can to. Using the base Rinnegan abilities, Sasuke could've absorbed Madara's lightning instead of having to dodge it at all, how is that pointless?

edit: now that I think about it, the fact that Sasuke didn't attempt to counter CT with any of the Rinnegan's base abilities lends support to the fact that he can't, especially given that he was showing noticeable difficulty in taking care of those meteors with just susanoo.

 

[Dantee]

Good post for your first thread. THe reason Sasuke hasn't shown his other abilities is because he is just becoming accustomed to his eyes. It's silly to think Sasuke will only have 1 rinnegan ability, theres still plenty of time in the manga for Sasuke to showcase more power. Furthermore the possibility of 2nd eye is high because it's basically foreshadowed the rinnegans powers are complete when the 2nd eye is unlocked.

 

[llxFLaMe]

If he can't use basic Rinnegan abilities who cares!... I would want sasuke to develop his own Rinnegan abilities instead of using madaras abilities... Destroying the CT rocks wasn't difficult for him at all cause he sliced 1 meteorite like 100 times and cut it in half and was already on to the next one while naruto bijuu rasenshurkican just exploded ... So idk where you got that from ... All he said was that they never end meaning it was a lot of meteorites

 

[llxFLaMe]

Good post for your first thread. THe reason Sasuke hasn't shown his other abilities is because he is just becoming accustomed to his eyes. It's silly to think Sasuke will only have 1 rinnegan ability, theres still plenty of time in the manga for Sasuke to showcase more power. Furthermore the possibility of 2nd eye is high because it's basically foreshadowed the rinnegans powers are complete when the 2nd eye is unlocked.

This here^^

 

[kaiyokoon]

Good post for your first thread. THe reason Sasuke hasn't shown his other abilities is because he is just becoming accustomed to his eyes. It's silly to think Sasuke will only have 1 rinnegan ability, theres still plenty of time in the manga for Sasuke to showcase more power. Furthermore the possibility of 2nd eye is high because it's basically foreshadowed the rinnegans powers are complete when the 2nd eye is unlocked.

I agree with the first part, but disagree about the second eye for three reasons. No one in the series has every had two 9 tomoe rinnegans, Sasuke getting a second eye would mean the powerup he was given was incomplete, whereas Naruto's was not as far as we can see, and finally because of the panel where he's seen closing the new eye to conserve energy, so it seems to be taxing on him, and while it could be argued that it's taxing because its a premature power right now, it's equally likely that it's tiring to use because the eye is to Sasuke what Kakashi's sharingan was to him (borrowed power).

 

[Dantee]

I agree with the first part, but disagree about the second eye for three reasons. No one in the series has every had two 9 tomoe rinnegans, Sasuke getting a second eye would mean the powerup he was given was incomplete, whereas Naruto's was not as far as we can see, and finally because of the panel where he's seen closing the new eye to conserve energy, so it seems to be taxing on him, and while it could be argued that it's taxing because its a premature power right now, it's equally likely that it's tiring to use because the eye is to Sasuke what Kakashi's sharingan was to him (borrowed power).

No where does it state it's taxing towards Sasuke nor does it state you can't have two of the nine tomoe rinnegan. Closing his eye for a brief period to conserve chakra is only the smart thing to do. If it was taxing you would see him panting or complaning about his reserves. Neither of the two have happened. Sasukes power is meant to be special so I don't see why he can't unlock two because it's still Rinnegan. Borrowed power? Lols.

 

[kaiyokoon]

No where does it state it's taxing towards Sasuke nor does it state you can't have two of the nine tomoe rinnegan. Closing his eye for a brief period to conserve chakra is only the smart thing to do. If it was taxing you would see him panting or complaning about his reserves. Neither of the two have happened. Sasukes power is meant to be special so I don't see why he can't unlock two because it's still Rinnegan. Borrowed power? Lols.

No one in the entire series has closed their eye when using doujutsu to conserve chakra except Kakashi because it was exhausting him, with the possible exception of Itachi during the fire jutsu clash, but he was almost blind and it's possible that that was just for dramatic effect when he opened it to do amaterasu. Not saying he won't get a second, but it isn't any more likely than him just having that one.

If he can't use basic Rinnegan abilities who cares!... I would want sasuke to develop his own Rinnegan abilities instead of using madaras abilities... Destroying the CT rocks wasn't difficult for him at all cause he sliced 1 meteorite like 100 times and cut it in half and was already on to the next one while naruto bijuu rasenshurkican just exploded ... So idk where you got that from ... All he said was that they never end meaning it was a lot of meteorites

Couple things.. he said they were never-ending... he was clearly having trouble dealing with them so it's very clear where I got that from, no idea where you got the slicing it 100 times from (those are not cuts they are the cracks in the debris forming the meteor, and saying who cares is not a point of argument, it matters if the most powerful variation of the Rinnegan lacks the functions of its weaker predecessor.

 

[Mad Daz]

Sasuke doesnt have a regular rinnegan so theres no reason to assume he can use the basic abilities. However i will bet on it that sasuke will get more eye powers than what he has now.

Also i dont think he will gain another juubi eye. Noone has shown to have 2 of those, and sasuke only has half the sages power anyway.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Nice job on one of your first posts and welcome to NB. I just made a theory on Sasuke's Rinnegan tech being an advanced form of Izanagi. Check it out if you are interested.

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[JCW]

1. Goodshit
2. The way you type and wording makes me think you're someone else but on this account hmmm

But again nice B