Minato would be nothing without Tobirama

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Who designed the core foundation of FTG? Tobirama. What did Minato do? He added the tag to Kunai - something Tobirama's done with weapons since he killed Izuna. Aside from that? Seals, thanks to Kushina. Arguably she added more to the Jutsu than Minato ever did.

Kage Bushin, Vibration sensing, etc, all came from Tobirama himself. Minato took away one finger, so that means he completely revolutionised the Jutsu and created a new technique?

Lol, no...

What has Minato created?

The Rasengan, and even then the inspiration came from the Bijuu Dama, and even then Minato never completed it, for various reasons, like his death. Tobirama has:

1. Created a Jutsu that surpasses Time and space.
2. Created a Jutsu that surpasses life and death.
3. Created a Jutsu that quite literally allows a person to gather hundreds of years worth of experience in weeks.
4. Created a Jutsu that manipulates one's soul.

That doesn't even count the Jutsu that we haven't seen, or the ones that aren't confirmed to have been created by him, like his Suiton.

And what stopped him from making more? Death. Arguably he could've kept on going.

Tobirama does the sums, Minato adds in the units of measurement.

But I digress, Minato's whole arsenal aside from the Rasengan came from Summons, Kushina, or Tobirama.

So I can't understand this insecure fanboy nature that's risen since even before the regs were opened; every Tobirama thread I see turns into some battlefield of how Minato is better or how Minato beats Tobirama. Like Tobirama the fictional character drawing owes Minato, the fictional character drawing something.

I'm willing to forgive and try to ignore the borderline psychotic outlandish claims I've heard these fans make, like how Minato was going easy on Obito by not using sage mode, when he thought he was Madara, or how Minato having his two second sage mode means he has higher reserves than Madara and Tobirama - who didn't learn Sage mode. Or my favourite, the fact that Hashirama, Sasuke and Tobirama were defeated by Madara before he was a Jinchuriki and that Minato only lost an arm (which somehow doesn't class as defeat.) means that Minato is stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama.

Now these remarks excluded, I don't get why these people are so uptight about Tobirama one second, and then when he shows off a feat they try to connect that to Minato somehow, like they glorify Minato riding on Tobirama's coattail.

Some pretty cancerous stuff overall, the damage control might claim I'm jus a butthurted h8uurrrrrrrr, but really, I'm just saying it how it is. Minato's whole relevance is due to one man, and these fapboys chose to target that one man above all else.

Though thankfully the older members aside from one or two aren't bad at all, quite the opposite really.

Usually (and I know for a fact in this case) when a person like to random bash a non-existant character for no real reason, it means they mental deficiencies for days. You sir, are hating on a character doesn't exist to the point where you look like a loser and someone who's only friend is his stuffed animal when he does to bed. QQ more.

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No, I'm spot-on with it. You don't make a thread titled "Minato would be nothing without Tobirama" Then proceed to try to make seem that Minato owes everything to Tobirama and has no potential of his own, and then proceed to make it look like Minato's achievement are not good achievements. So yeah, it's clear as day you're ticked off by someone, and so, instead of taking problems with that individual, bash the character.


Please elaborate what the "point" was then. Because anyone reading this thread with basic context reading skills knows that this is bashing.

Do you lack the intelligence so much you need a messily Genin to spell it out for you? Did you read the op? That's the first thing to do.

Yes you are

No you aren't wrong but who the hell cares from who Minato learned his tech? You're just trying to make Tobirama look better by making Minato look worst. Only haters or wankers do these kind of threads

Le siggggggghhhhhhhh

I don't care, that wasn't the point. You are clinically stupid and this is the last post you'll get out of me.
 

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The stubbornness is real. Well you're on your own my man. I thought they would begin to have a discussion about what you mentioned without being antsy if I let them know how it is but I failed. Good luck Lol
 

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I agree,good thread OP.
 

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Le siggggggghhhhhhhh

I don't care, that wasn't the point. You are clinically stupid and this is the last post you'll get out of me.
Look you made a thread about something that aplies to every character in the show but only talked about 1 of the characters in a way to make other character look better, that's being a wanker

Then please tell me the point, cuz you're always saying we didn't get it but you never say the point
 
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The stubbornness is real. Well you're on your own my man. I thought they would begin to have a discussion about what you mentioned without being antsy if I let them know how it is but I failed. Good luck Lol

Nah I'm done too man, thanks for the help. They can scratch their heads with their autism until they get the point.
 

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Do you lack the intelligence so much you need a messily Genin to spell it out for you? Did you read the op? That's the first thing to do.



Le siggggggghhhhhhhh

I don't care, that wasn't the point. You are clinically stupid and this is the last post you'll get out of me.


Stop. I'm positive I understand what this thread is about. The point is, I'm gracious enough to let you defend yourself. Otherwise, you're just going to go down as an idiot basher. Little comments like

What has Minato created?

The Rasengan, and even then the inspiration came from the Bijuu Dama, and even then Minato never completed it, for various reasons, like his death.


Show you're not simply trying to make Tobirama to be a genius for making such a useful jutsu that other genius ninjas use instead of inventing their own (Minato with FTG), which I would not have a problem with if that's all it was, but rather, you've been trying to portray that Minato was dependent on Tobirama. Please, by all means, tell me this wasn't what you were thinking when you made the title with this thread and attempted to derail Minato's ingenuity with ransengan.
 

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Are you kidding me? In this manga almost everyone has a borrowed power and something... Minato didn't even borrow anything, I mean he used Tobirama's jutsus even better than Tobirama himself.
 

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Jimmies have been rustled.


Well goodness, people are responding angrily when some person makes a thread portraying a ninja they like as dependent on another and attempt to degrade his intelligence feats. That's so unreasonable!
 

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Pretty sure posts like this is what inspired the OP to make this stupid thread in the first place.

Who cares ? You and I know this thread is pointless... the two things that connects Minato and Tobirama is : FTG (where Minato is better) and the titel Hokage ( where Mianto was not a Uchiha hater) nothing more....this moron is mad :mad:_@:
this thread is just a try to bash Mianto cuz he is BADASS
 
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Or it may be sensitive morons like you that are unable to read. Well they too fall under that category.

Just look at his and their attempts to deepthroat a drawing.
 

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Who cares ? You and I know this thread is pointless... the two things that connects Minato and Tobirama is : FTG (where Minato is better) and the titel Hokage ( where Mianto was not a Uchiha hater) nothing more....this moron is mad :mad:_@:
this thread is just a try to bash Mianto cuz he is BADASS
About Minato being a better Hokage... not true, Tobirama was the one who built the whole system, he might have been a little opressive but he was better than Minato (Minato didn't spend much time as a Hokage tho)
 

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Tobirama is a better ninja, but he is not stronger. Minato would still have Rasengan, sub-par sage mode and shunshin, he'd probably still be above average
 

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About Minato being a better Hokage... not true, Tobirama was the one who built the whole system, he might have been a little opressive but he was better than Minato (Minato didn't spend much time as a Hokage tho)

lol Kishi/Minato said he would bring peace with the Uchihas's soooo.....and noo the system was not just tobirama's work.
Hashirama and Madara have made the groundwork.
 

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lol Kishi/Minato said he would bring peace with the Uchihas's soooo.....and noo the system was not just tobirama's work.
Hashirama and Madara have made the groundwork.
But he didn't did he?

Yeah Hashirama and Madara had the idea but the one that actually made it work was Tobirama, I do believe that if Minato had stayed alive for more time he might've become a better Hokage than Tobirama
 

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But he didn't did he?

Yeah Hashirama and Madara had the idea but the one that actually made it work was Tobirama, I do believe that if Minato had stayed alive for more time he might've become a better Hokage than Tobirama

He said it, thats the point , he said it next to the all Hokages that failed.
He would never react like a racist. Minato defended Konoha from Kurama/Obito and died, how died Tobirama ?
 

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He said it, thats the point , he said it next to the all Hokages that failed.
He would never react like a racist. Minato defended Konoha from Kurama/Obito and died, how died Tobirama ?
But he didn't do it

Tobirama sacrificed himself for the Leaf
 

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Or it may be sensitive morons like you that are unable to read. Well they too fall under that category.

Just look at his and their attempts to deepthroat a drawing.


You better not have been referring to me. I'm not the one who responded to a couple of retards by attacking a character by making my own thread like this.

Now these remarks excluded, I don't get why these people are so uptight about Tobirama one second, and then when he shows off a feat they try to connect that to Minato somehow, like they glorify Minato riding on Tobirama's coattail.

Some pretty cancerous stuff overall, the damage control might claim I'm jus a butthurted h8uurrrrrrrr, but really, I'm just saying it how it is. Minato's whole relevance is due to one man, and these fapboys chose to target that one man above all else.

Though thankfully the older members aside from one or two aren't bad at all, quite the opposite really.
 
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