Minato would be nothing without Tobirama

[Flash]

It's good that I've successfully attracted the whole cancer to my thread now. Notice that they aren't taking a word of what I say into consideration.

What you said could've been put in better words (without bashing a character) and maybe then people would've understood what you said.

 

[minatoisagod]

i get what your saying bro but it is kinda retarded in some aspects. What would the sanin be with sarutobi or what would everyone who taught people jutsu. Minato just took things that tobirama made and did them better same thing kabuto and oro did with edo tensei it shows how they revere the techs to make them better. So saying minato would be nothing without Tobirama is retarded as hell.

 

[enditallsin]

Minato gives his respect to tobirama....that's why he doesn't brag about the fact that he has surpassed tobirama.(In terms of FTG of course) you gotta except the fact that techniques were met to be passed down, this whole war wouldn't have been anything without tobirama.

 

[Kαmi]

I wuv you!

Shh, not in public. Don't want others to get jealous of what we have.

Won't take this personal. But if you don't love to respect others' opinion, you'll just be labelled a hater

Wait you really think you're smart...

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Look yeah Tobirama is badass and all but the dude needed to learn how to use chakra from someone, does that mean he's nothing without the person who teached him? No, you know why? Cuz thinking that way is the retarded as hell

Did you guys read the entire thread? The title was just his method in drawing attention. Look at Naota Minato's post, he realized that the thread was a lot more than just the title and happened to agree. Cause I have a feeling neither of you two would be as rude if you read and comprehended the thread to its entirety. Because what he said did not come off as bashing and I actually like Minato more. The point in the thread stands just fine.

 

[Slick OmniBaba]

What you said could've been put in better words (without bashing a character) and maybe then people would've understood what you said.

I didn't bash, they just can't read and lack the attention span to pick apart a text.

i actually quite like the character

 

[Flash]

i get what your saying bro but it is kinda retarded in some aspects. What would the sanin be with sarutobi or what would everyone who taught people jutsu. Minato just took things that tobirama made and did them better same thing kabuto and oro did with edo tensei it shows how they revere the techs to make them better. So saying minato would be nothing without Tobirama is retarded as hell.

Can't put it any better. U_U

 

[Tobi98]

You still don't get it.

What haven't I got?

Minato perfected Tobirama's jutsu just like Naruto's perfected Minato's, does that mean Naruto is Minato's V2? No it doesn't

I don't even like Minato that much but this is just stupid as hell

Did you guys read the entire thread? The title was just his method in drawing attention. Look at Naota Minato's post, he realized that the thread was a lot more than just the title and happened to agree. Cause I have a feeling neither of you two would be as rude if you read and comprehended the thread to its entirety. Because what he said did not come off as bashing and I actually like Minato more. The point in the thread stands just fine.

Yeah I have, not as stupid but stupid, everyone knows Minato wouldn't be as strong without Tobirama, but Tobirama wouldn't be either with someone else, making this thread is just a waste of time

 

[Slick OmniBaba]

What haven't I got?

Minato perfected Tobirama's jutsu just like Naruto's perfected Minato's, does that mean Naruto is Minato's V2? No it doesn't

I don't even like Minato that much but this is just stupid as hell

I'm quite happy to let you sit here and be the butt of the joke. The answer is right in front of you.

 

[Tobi98]

I'm quite happy to let you sit here and be the butt of the joke. The answer is right in front of you.

I just noticed you like Feng Shen Jin... please tell me what would Nitian Erxing be without the Elder Dark One? He would be nothing too... but guess what? No one gives a **** about if they learned or invented stuff... this thread is a waste of space cuz you're trying to look all smart when it's freacking obvious

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Keep crying. Minato's good because he's good. He learned difficult tools learned by Tobirama, but you're operating on an erroneous concept that if someone learned jutsus form someone, they couldn't learn something else. If it weren't for Tobirama, Minato would just learn other jutsus or invent his own. This is a pitiful attempt to bash a character just because you're like what, mad at one or 2 fans?


He invented ransengan and chakra transfer. Deal with it.

 

[Slick OmniBaba]

I just noticed you like Feng Shen Jin... please tell me what would Nitian Erxing be without the Elder Dark One? He would be nothing too... but guess what? No one gives a **** about if they learned or invented stuff... this thread is a waste of space cuz you're trying to look all smart when it's freacking obvious

Lol what does Godtian Erxing have to do with this?

Keep crying. Minato's good because he's good. He learned difficult tools learned by Tobirama, but you're operating on an erroneous concept that if someone learned jutsus form someone, they couldn't learn something else. If it weren't for Tobirama, Minato would just learn other jutsus or invent his own. This is a pitiful attempt to bash a character just because you're like what, mad at one or 2 fans?

Completely missing the point.

 

[Kαmi]

Yeah I have, not as stupid but stupid, everyone knows Minato wouldn't be as strong without Tobirama, but Tobirama wouldn't either with someone else, making this thread is just a waste of time

Didn't the OP already agree with that? This thread also discusses about how fans make this denial. And that people tend to downplay the skills of Tobirama simply because Minato revamped his arsenal in a way that Tobirama was capable of. Everyone thing you're pointing out is exactly what was already said. The thread was made so that people wouldn't downplay Tobirama, so that people would constantly compare two drawings as if one owes the other. You're arguing about something that was already mentioned in the premises and playing exactly into the OP hands.

The thread is a lot more than just what is one character without the other, the OP makes it clear that no one owes anyone. What you're debating is pretty much just the title.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Who designed the core foundation of FTG? Tobirama. What did Minato do? He added the tag to Kunai - something Tobirama's done with weapons since he killed Izuna. Aside from that? Seals, thanks to Kushina. Arguably she added more to the Jutsu than Minato ever did.

Kage Bushin, Vibration sensing, etc, all came from Tobirama himself. Minato took away one finger, so that means he completely revolutionised the Jutsu and created a new technique?

Lol, no...

What has Minato created?

The Rasengan, and even then the inspiration came from the Bijuu Dama, and even then Minato never completed it, for various reasons, like his death. Tobirama has:

1. Created a Jutsu that surpasses Time and space.
2. Created a Jutsu that surpasses life and death.
3. Created a Jutsu that quite literally allows a person to gather hundreds of years worth of experience in weeks.
4. Created a Jutsu that manipulates one's soul.

That doesn't even count the Jutsu that we haven't seen, or the ones that aren't confirmed to have been created by him, like his Suiton.

And what stopped him from making more? Death. Arguably he could've kept on going.

Tobirama does the sums, Minato adds in the units of measurement.

But I digress, Minato's whole arsenal aside from the Rasengan came from Summons, Kushina, or Tobirama.

So I can't understand this insecure fanboy nature that's risen since even before the regs were opened; every Tobirama thread I see turns into some battlefield of how Minato is better or how Minato beats Tobirama. Like Tobirama the fictional character drawing owes Minato, the fictional character drawing something.

I'm willing to forgive and try to ignore the borderline psychotic outlandish claims I've heard these fans make, like how Minato was going easy on Obito by not using sage mode, when he thought he was Madara, or how Minato having his two second sage mode means he has higher reserves than Madara and Tobirama - who didn't learn Sage mode. Or my favourite, the fact that Hashirama, Sasuke and Tobirama were defeated by Madara before he was a Jinchuriki and that Minato only lost an arm (which somehow doesn't class as defeat.) means that Minato is stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama.

Now these remarks excluded, I don't get why these people are so uptight about Tobirama one second, and then when he shows off a feat they try to connect that to Minato somehow, like they glorify Minato riding on Tobirama's coattail.

Some pretty cancerous stuff overall, the damage control might claim I'm jus a butthurted h8uurrrrrrrr, but really, I'm just saying it how it is. Minato's whole relevance is due to one man, and these fapboys chose to target that one man above all else.

Though thankfully the older members aside from one or two aren't bad at all, quite the opposite really.

Where you lost people is that you targeted Minato but the same can be said for Naruto, Sasuke, Kushina, Kakashi, Itachi, and every other ninja

 

[Slick OmniBaba]

Didn't the OP already agree with that? This thread also discusses about how fans make this denial. And that people tend to downplay the skills of Tobirama simply because Minato revamped his arsenal in a way that Tobirama was capable of. Everyone thing you're pointing out is exactly what was already said. The thread was made so that people wouldn't downplay Tobirama, so that people would constantly compare two drawings as if one owes the other. You're arguing about something that was already mentioned in the premises and playing exactly into the OP hands.

The thread is a lot more than just what is one character without the other, the OP makes it clear that no one owes anyone. What you're debating is pretty much just the title.

If you have to spell it out for him, it must say something about his reading skills.

Must be dyslexic.

Where you lost people is that you targeted Minato but the same can be said for Naruto, Sasuke, Kushina, Kakashi, Itachi, and every other ninja

Last I checked they weren't real.

 

[Tobi98]

Didn't the OP already agree with that? This thread also discusses about how fans make this denial. And that people tend to downplay the skills of Tobirama simply because Minato revamped his arsenal in a way that Tobirama was capable of. Everyone thing you're pointing out is exactly what was already said. The thread was made so that people wouldn't downplay Tobirama, so that people would constantly compare two drawings as if one owes the other. You're arguing about something that was already mentioned in the premises and playing exactly into the OP hands.

The thread is a lot more than just what is one character without the other, the OP makes it clear that no one owes anyone. What you're debating is pretty much just the title.

Not really I think I was one of the firsts to say it and the ony thing he said was "I bring stupid people to my thread" so yeah no

And no again, the dude is just trying to make Tobirama look better by making Minato look worst, just look at this

like they glorify Minato riding on Tobirama's coattail.
Minato's whole relevance is due to one man

And the rest of his thread is just saying that what Tobirama invented is better than what Minato invented and that everything he had was from someone else (Kushina and Tobirama)

It's quite funny cuz I actually like Tobirama more than Minato (dat fur coat swag tho) but this thread is annoying and he's trying to look super smart by making a thread as simple as this

Lol what does Godtian Erxing have to do with this?

It's an example... and yeah if you want to know I'm right

 

[Memento Mori]

Point of this thread????

 

[Slick OmniBaba]

Not really I think I was one of the firsts to say it and the ony thing he said was I bring stupid people to my thread so yeah no

And no again, the dude is just trying to make Tobirama look better by making Minato look worst, just look at this


And the rest of his thread is just saying that what Tobirama invented is better than what Minato invented and that everything he had was from someone else (Kushina and Tobirama)

It's quite funny cuz I actually like Tobirama more than Minato (that fur coat swag tho) but this thread is annoying and he's trying to look super smart by making a thread as simple as this



It's an example... and yeah if you want to know I'm right

Yes, I am trying to act super smart :/

KS hit the nail on the head, your anus releasing vermilion liquid is no fault of mine. I stated that Tobirama made Minato, in a sense what he is. Am I wrong? I never said there was anything wrong with that, what I in fact said was that the fanboys are what is wrong.

Thus, Godtian erxing isn't relevant.

I couldn't care what Jutsu Minato uses

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Lol what does Godtian Erxing have to do with this?



Completely missing the point.

No, I'm spot-on with it. You don't make a thread titled "Minato would be nothing without Tobirama" Then proceed to try to make seem that Minato owes everything to Tobirama and has no potential of his own, and then proceed to make it look like Minato's achievement are not good achievements. So yeah, it's clear as day you're ticked off by someone, and so, instead of taking problems with that individual, bash the character.


Please elaborate what the "point" was then. Because anyone reading this thread with basic context reading skills knows that this is bashing.

 

[Kαmi]

Not really I think I was one of the firsts to say it and the ony thing he said was "I bring stupid people to my thread" so yeah no

And no again, the dude is just trying to make Tobirama look better by making Minato look worst, just look at this


And the rest of his thread is just saying that what Tobirama invented is better than what Minato invented and that everything he had was from someone else (Kushina and Tobirama)

It's quite funny cuz I actually like Tobirama more than Minato (that fur coat swag tho) but this thread is annoying and he's trying to look super smart by making a thread as simple as this



It's an example... and yeah if you want to know I'm right

That's known as bait. Compliments with the intentional misleading title. As I said before, the OP already admitted that Minato would have found another way but that comparison was made to show that although Minato invented things, Tobirama did as well and it further proved the point that Minato isn't a v2 of Tobirama because Tobirama is much more than just FTG. You fell for it hooked, line and sinker.

Oh and Onmibaba, I only chose to spell it out so he wouldn't get things twisted in another thread. He's still new so he's got a couple tricks he can pick up on.

 

[Tobi98]

Yes, I am trying to act super smart :/

KS hit the nail on the head, your anus releasing vermilion liquid is no fault of mine. I stated that Tobirama made Minato, in a sense what he is. Am I wrong? I never said there was anything wrong with that, what I in fact said was that the fanboys are what is wrong.

Thus, Godtian erxing isn't relevant.

Yes you are

No you aren't wrong but who the hell cares from who Minato learned his tech? You're just trying to make Tobirama look better by making Minato look worst. Only haters or wankers do these kind of threads

That's known as bait. Compliments with the intentional misleading title. As I said before, the OP already admitted that Minato would have found another way but that comparison was made to show that although Minato invented things, Tobirama did as well and it further proved the point that Minato isn't a v2 of Tobirama because Tobirama is much more than just FTG. You fell for it hooked, line and sinker.

Oh and Onmibaba, I only chose to spell it out so he wouldn't get things twisted in another thread. He's still new so he's got a couple tricks he can pick up on.

I know it is a bait, but it annoys me that he thinks this thread is good

And don't tell me he isn't trying to make Tobirama look better by making Minato look worst, cuz he clearly is, this type of threads are made by Sasuke and Naruto wankers (saying obvious things that aply to every character but just talk about 1 character)