[Discussion] Sanji isn't as impressiva as Luffy and Zoro after the Timeskip.

[deva pein]

My impression is that Sanji just isn't as impressive as Zoro and Luffy.
His Haki just isn't strong enough, and the only thing that is a force to be reckoned with is Hell Memories.
Zoro on the other hand hasn't shown much, but he has fought on par with Pika who is probably the strongest subordinate of Doflamingo. Sanji got his main weapon cracked in a little skirmish with Vergo. Vergo is a beast but I am not sure if he is stronger than Peeka. THey are probably on par, and while Zoro wasn't even tired, Sanji got his ****ing leg cracked.
Sanji got caught in Parasite, while he was fighting him head on (unlike Jozu who was caught off guard). This shows that Sanji's CoA haki was not good enough to defend himself.
Luffy shouldn't even be discussed because he has a pretty good Haki, and his new attacks are strong as phuck.
Luffy and Zoro are a bit above Sanji now, so it is more like this now.


Usopp: Over 9000
Luffy:100
Zoro:98
Jinbei:95
Sanji:92

Let me know what you guys think and care to explain why I might be wrong with Mangafacts

 

[RaitonOniKairRasengan]

Wow sanji isn't as strong as the captain or first mate? I never would have guessed..

 

[deva pein]

Wow sanji isn't a strong as the captain or first mate? I never would have guessed..

Well there are people who think Sanji=Zoro because it was that way pre-skip. The gap between Luffy/Zoro and Sanji has grown bigger.

 

[TheRedAndGreenBeast]

I agree with the OP but I was always under the assumption that Luffy > Zoro > Sanji even in part 1.

 

[deva pein]

I agree with the OP but I was always under the assumption that Luffy > Zoro > Sanji even in part 1.

Yeah I was too but now it seems more like Luffy>=Zoro>>Sanji>>>>>Franky

 

[TheRedAndGreenBeast]

Yeah I was too but now it seems more like Luffy>=Zoro>>Sanji>>>>>Franky

I agree. I feel like Robin should be a little stronger though. Being Crocodile's right hand and all... Not saying she's weak (she's far from it) but she should be stronger.

 

[Kirikoe]

sanji can run i the air :| how is that not impressive :|

sanji is awesome he is supposed to be just below zoro..

he hasnt exactly shown us everything either..

 

[deva pein]

sanji can run i the air :| how is that not impressive :|

sanji is awesome he is supposed to be just below zoro..

he hasnt exactly shown us everything either..

Running in the air is not impressive. Every Marine that has a little Rokushiki can do that. Moon walk isn't even relevant against Zoro because he would just throw a 1080 pound cannon towards Sanji.

 

[A v i]

What's with these Sanji hate threads?

 

[David1996]

Disappointed with Sanji really.

Btw.. Zoro<Jinbei

 

[deva pein]

Disappointed with Sanji really.

Btw.. Zoro<Jinbei

Zoro is probably stronger than Jinbei, he has become a beast after the Timeskip. He probably has the strongest CoA Haki (Oda's SBS is the source) and really deadly sword techniques. Come on, he just throws a 360 pound cannon with one sword like it is nothing.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

What's with all the Sanji threads!? O__o

Regardless,
If we put Zoro up against Doflamingo he would too have been defeated. I find out funny how you criticise Sanji for not having superior CoA to break out of an attack from a guy who clearly has semi mastery over his Haki.
Also I don't see why you're putting Jinbe behind Zoro in power levels U_U Jinbe is stronger than him.

 

[Olorin]

For the umphth time Luffy>Zoro>Sanji

That's the first law of One Piece

 

[Kenshin the god of war]

All the characters are pretty awesome but I understand what you're saying. Like before the time skip sanji was very impressive with his kicks in all. But every since the time skip, sanji compared to zoro and luffy is like man what the hell happen.?

But I'm sure he'll display some more awesomeness soon. But law that guy is a boss him and the new admiral.

 

[YellowFang]

Even though people tend to think that Zoro >= Sanji

I strongly deny that...
IMO
As for part 1,
Luffy > Zoro > Sanji

As for part 2,
Luffy >= Zoro > Sanji

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

My impression is that Sanji just isn't as impressive as Zoro and Luffy.
His Haki just isn't strong enough, and the only thing that is a force to be reckoned with is Hell Memories.
Zoro on the other hand hasn't shown much, but he has fought on par with Pika who is probably the strongest subordinate of Doflamingo. Sanji got his main weapon cracked in a little skirmish with Vergo. Vergo is a beast but I am not sure if he is stronger than Peeka. THey are probably on par, and while Zoro wasn't even tired, Sanji got his ****ing leg cracked.
Sanji got caught in Parasite, while he was fighting him head on (unlike Jozu who was caught off guard). This shows that Sanji's CoA haki was not good enough to defend himself.
Luffy shouldn't even be discussed because he has a pretty good Haki, and his new attacks are strong as phuck.
Luffy and Zoro are a bit above Sanji now, so it is more like this now.


Usopp: Over 9000
Luffy:100
Zoro:98
Jinbei:95
Sanji:92

Let me know what you guys think and care to explain why I might be wrong with Mangafacts

@Bold We saw Zoro fighting Pica in the place and he was panting while Pica wasn't tried. Vergo was said to be DD right hand and ie most likley the 2nd strongest. While Sanji's body was battered and bruised before hand.

Saying Sanji wasn't ditracted when he got caught is funny, because he was being distracted by the SH on the Sunny.

Zoro has done nothing that would put him over Sanji.

-Luffy 100

-Zoro 93

-Sanji 93 or 92​

 

[deva pein]

@Bold We saw Zoro fighting Pica in the place and he was panting while Pica wasn't tried. Vergo was said to be DD right hand and ie most likley the 2nd strongest. While Sanji's body was battered and bruised before hand.

Saying Sanji wasn't ditracted when he got caught is funny, because he was being distracted by the SH on the Sunny.

Zoro has done nothing that would put him over Sanji.

-Luffy 100

-Zoro 93

-Sanji 93 or 92​

That's right. He has done nothing serious yet.
He was only panting, that means nothing especially not for Zoro who has a huge endurance and stamina.
Okay Peeka might be just a little weaker than Vergo but they are not that far off. Still Sanji got his leg cracked because he didn't have sufficient haki to block a normal kick from Vergo. Vergo didn't even use armament Hardening so this just shows that Sanji's Haki is not on par with that of Luffy/Smoker and probably Zoro too because Oda stated that Zoro would be the CoA specialist.

And Sanji was not distracted by the SH at Sunny. He was concentrated at Doflamingo when he was put under Parasite. So his CoA haki is not really great and his CoO isn't either because he should have seen that coming.

 

[Zen Uchiha]

Wow sanji isn't as strong as the captain or first mate? I never would have guessed..

lmfaaoo XD

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

That's right. He has done nothing serious yet.
He was only panting, that means nothing especially not for Zoro who has a huge endurance and stamina.
Okay Peeka might be just a little weaker than Vergo but they are not that far off. Still Sanji got his leg cracked because he didn't have sufficient haki to block a normal kick from Vergo. Vergo didn't even use armament Hardening so this just shows that Sanji's Haki is not on par with that of Luffy/Smoker and probably Zoro too because Oda stated that Zoro would be the CoA specialist.

And Sanji was not distracted by the SH at Sunny. He was concentrated at Doflamingo when he was put under Parasite. So his CoA haki is not really great and his CoO isn't either because he should have seen that coming.

No you said Zoro wasn't tired he got tired for fighting with Pica for a tiny while. And no Sanji got his leg cracked so easily because he ws hurt before hand against Cesar because Nami was in his body. And you assume Vergo wasn't using haki....You're wrong sparks tend to occur when CoA clashes and that's what happen in their fight. And just because Zoro specialises in CoA doesn't mean his will be on the same level as Vergo's


Np he was distracted by the crew...His whole reason for coming was to save the crew...And the attack wasn't parasite, it's obvious Parasite can only control fodder....Unless Sanji and Jozu are fodder.​

 

[Love Cook]

So what did Zoro do what Sanji couldn't do: Nothing

What did Sanji do what Zoro could've done better: Nothing

Case closed

If Monet was a guy, Sanji would've kicked his ass just as hard
If Zoro was up against Vergo or Doflamingo he also would've gotten his ass kicked Just like Fujitora.
Zoro didn't do anything against Pika as you like to claim in the opening post. He sliced up some walls, while Pika evaded. This also raises doubts about Zoro's proficiency in CoO.

So in what way do the last three arcs put Zoro over Sanji ? At least Sanji established a lot of stuff while Zoro was on the Brownbeard bus, chasing fairies and locked in a cage for three arcs in a row. Oda always keeps him occupied with stupid stuff untill he can have his boss shining moment at the end of the arc where he slashes some one up so that he can ride his wave of fanboys to the next arc.

Luffy>>Zoro>Sanji