sakura > all k11

[Made in Heaven]

Its not my wish, its my opinion.

opinions can be wrong, smart one

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Powerful regeneration and powerful sommoning: thats what puts Sakura higher than Neji in my hierarchy.

Neji: A fast and graceful fighter where the slightest misstep is lethal and can lead to instant death by heart attack or become instantly helpless.

Sakura: A tank that heals from things and has powerful punches.



The difference in lethality is that Sakura's punches are absurdly powerful and can recover from screw ups, but her reflexes are far from high-tier, and basically, if you have a jutsu that can use a loop-hole in her ability, she's done, which is why I listed so many K11 having the capability to kill her, because there's just that many with that loop-hole capability.


With Neji, unless you've got god-tier speed and reflexes, cannot be dodged, and has taken out people with curse marks in 2 hits with his gentle fist and has great defenses that are virtually impossible to get past unless you have obscenely rapid attacks.

 

[Turson]

opinions can be wrong, smart one

Thats right, but that applies to everyone.

 

[Optimistic]

This is an interesting thread with a lot of well constructed arguments, and it's definitely a subject I think about often. Obviously, the answer to this question is highly subjective, and I don't believe there is a single right answer. I like reading everyone's opinion on the matter, though, and I hope this discussion goes on.​

 

[Turson]

Neji: A fast and graceful fighter where the slightest misstep is lethal and can lead to instant death by heart attack or become instantly helpless.

Sakura: A tank that heals from things and has powerful punches.



The difference in lethality is that Sakura's punches are absurdly powerful and can recover from screw ups, but her reflexes are far from high-tier, and basically, if you have a jutsu that can use a loop-hole in her ability, she's done, which is why I listed so many K11 having the capability to kill her, because there's just that many with that loop-hole capability.


With Neji, unless you've got god-tier speed and reflexes, cannot be dodged, and has taken out people with curse marks in 2 hits with his gentle fist and has great defenses that are virtually impossible to get past unless you have obscenely rapid attacks.

Of course that Neji is more graceful fighter, but does that make him stronger? Not for me. Yes, he could win against restricted Sakura. But I dont see him beating her and Katsuyu.

 

[TheTailedSage]

This thread is too funny

 

[ShadowBandit]

She's not. Neji has better speed and taijutsu skill than Sakura, and also has great defenses, and the ability to shut off chakra for nearly anyone. Tsunade would be debatable since last time in the databook, she was ranked higher in taijutsu than Neji.

Neji doesn't have better speed, and he doesn't have better taijustu. I don't know why people come off that gentle fist makes somebody a taijutsu expert, it doesn't, its just a different style. Lee's strong fist is just such as powerful. Neji's defeneses, aren't strong enough to withstand Sakura attacks, even if they were, Neji doesn't have stamina to keep them up. And the ability to shut off chakra is negatable to medics, because if it weren't healable, then the medics wouldn't have been able to save Hinata.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Neji: A fast and graceful fighter where the slightest misstep is lethal and can lead to instant death by heart attack or become instantly helpless.
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Fast? Graceful? Since when?

 

[Made in Heaven]

Neji doesn't have better speed and he doesn't have better taijustu.

THe first scan in the spoiler is really the only proof you need to know Neji's reflexes are way beyond what Sakura can handle. There about 30 spikes there, and only two land on him merely because of the Byakugan's blind spot

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Neji's defeneses, aren't strong enough to withstand Sakura attacks, even if they were, Neji doesn't have stamina to keep them up.

False and false.

Rotation has been compared to Gaara's sand in terms of defense, and is denser than susano'O, as, unlike Susano'O, it isn't hollow [I'm not claiming Rotation>susano'O here] The combined power of two rotations was enough to blow away the Juubi's arm. Rotation isn't just defensive, it is offensive as well, as it will knock back attacks. If Sakura gets within a few meters of Neji, he can blow her away with that or One Blow Body

As for Chakra levels, Neji is on the same boat as Sakura; both are good with CC, so it's irrelevant. but even so, the Hyuga most likely do have large chakra reserves. this can be supported by the fact that they use a large amount of chakra for Rotation. There's also the fact ath they are the Children of Kaguya. Uzumakis, Senjus, and Uchihas all have large/powerful Chakra, and they are all Kaguya's children, so if 3/4 of them have good chakra, it's a fair assumption to say the 4th one does as well.

And the ability to shut off chakra is negatable to medics, because if it weren't healable, then the medics wouldn't have been able to save Hinata.

Wrong again. the medics were only healing her organs. Closed chakra points open up with time by themselves

 

[ShadowBandit]

THe first scan in the spoiler is really the only proof you need to know Neji's reflexes are way beyond what Sakura can handle. There about 30 spikes there, and only two land on him merely because of the Byakugan's blind spot

False and false.

Rotation has been compared to Gaara's sand in terms of defense, and is denser than susano'O, as, unlike Susano'O, it isn't hollow [I'm not claiming Rotation>susano'O here] The combined power of two rotations was enough to blow away the Juubi's arm. Rotation isn't just defensive, it is offensive as well, as it will knock back attacks. If Sakura gets within a few meters of Neji, he can blow her away with that or One Blow Body

As for Chakra levels, Neji is on the same boat as Sakura; both are good with CC, so it's irrelevant. but even so, the Hyuga most likely do have large chakra reserves. this can be supported by the fact that they use a large amount of chakra for Rotation. There's also the fact ath they are the Children of Kaguya. Uzumakis, Senjus, and Uchihas all have large/powerful Chakra, and they are all Kaguya's children, so if 3/4 of them have good chakra, it's a fair assumption to say the 4th one does as well.



Wrong again. the medics were only healing her organs. Closed chakra points open up with time by themselves

Wow that evidence is way off, you just used evidence from part 1 to try to prove your point....so horribly off... and your evidence has too much conjecture.....

Such as your assumption that Hyuga have large chakra pools....never beens stated or even alluded too

Neji part 1 reflexes somehow pertain to part 2???, Neji reflexes in part 2 have been shown to be lesser or maybe the same as Sakura's reflexs, evidence is when Neji was seen fighting the zeztus.

And you don't understand body blow, it doesn't have any distance or any incredible knock back effect, it was just a very small burst to get a zetzu that was surrounding neji body off completely, it has the same effect as a quick electric shock almost. But its not a move that can stop Sakura's fist. All it is a small burst of chakra out of his points completely around his body, it won't stop Sakura focused punch.

And rotation, was compared to Gaara's sand by Tenten in Part 1, her evidence is miniscule.....and holding back an attack from the juubi that was still running wild as stated it didn't have focused power, that took the combined effort of Neji and the Hyuga clan leader, and it was fodder punch as shown, it wasn't a focused devastating attack. Neji's rotation alone won't be able to hold out against Sakura punches. As stated by black zeztu, even with a better tool its the ninja that used it, Sakura offensive have shown to be more devastating then anything Neji could block.

That last part is also false, gentle fist attacks the chakra nervous system, the organs get damage because of the chakra blockage in the vicinity, this was stated in the databook. If they were just healing Hinata's organs, that be foolish, they'd have to heal the chakra points to stop the damaging from continuing.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Wow that evidence is way off, you just used evidence from part 1 to try to prove your point....so horribly off... and your evidence has too much conjecture.....

Neji part 1 reflexes somehow pertain to part 2???, Neji reflexes in part 2 have been shown to be lesser or maybe the same as Sakura's reflexs, evidence is when Neji was seen fighting the zeztus.

I'm sorry, i had no idea part 1 Naruto is a completely different series than part 2 Naruto. If you're gonna debate, don't bullshit yourself through it. Part one abilities and skills are just as valid as anything that has happened in part 2.

Such as your assumption that Hyuga have large chakra pools....never beens stated or even alluded too

Like I said, hyugas have good CC, so it's irrelevant whether they do or not. Again, I repeat, if they're willing to use up so much chakra for heavenly spin, and the fact that they're Kaguya's and the 2nd sage's children, its obvious they do have a lot of chakra, as the uzumaki, senju, and Uchiha do, so it's logical to say they do too. Not to mention Neji used up ALOT of chakra when fighting kidomaru.

And you don't understand body blow, it doesn't have any distance or any incredible knock back effect, it was just a very small burst to get a zetzu that was surrounding neji body off completely, it has the same effect as a quick electric shock almost. But its not a move that can stop Sakura's fist. All it is a small burst of chakra out of his points completely around his body, it won't stop Sakura focused punch

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Meh, even if that's the case, he still has rotation.

And rotation, was compared to Gaara's sand by Tenten in Part 1, her evidence is miniscule.....

Not at all, kishi had her say it, and from what we've seen its true.

What attacks have made it through gaara's sand? Well, chidori and kimimaru's bones for one.

The only thing that's made it through rotation has been the juubi's attacks. Let that sink in

and holding back an attack from the juubi that was still running wild as stated it didn't have focused power, that took the combined effort of Neji and the Hyuga clan leader

and it was fodder punch as shown, it wasn't a focused devastating attack

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A mere finger flick was enough to toss aside a bijuu bomb. I truly can't believe you're trying to underestimate the juubi

Neji's rotation alone won't be able to hold out against Sakura punches. As stated by black zeztu, even with a better tool its the ninja that used it, Sakura offensive have shown to be more devastating then anything Neji could block.

In any case, my point, that you missed, was that if Hiashi and Neji can blow away something as large as the juubi's hand with two rotations, then one rotation is more than enough to blow away Sakura.

 

[Jimihendrix]

Everyone's underestimating Choji hard.

He squashes her like the bug she is.

 

[Made in Heaven]

True, Sakura losing to choji Ino, unless katsuyu is around to help her that is

 

[TheEvilOne]

Everyone's underestimating Choji hard.

He squashes her like the bug she is.

Sakura blitzes and oneshots Choji's fat ass. If he goes BM, she jumps to his face and shannaros the living shit out of his eyeballs.

 

[Jimihendrix]

Sakura blitzes and oneshots Choji's fat ass. If he goes BM, she jumps to his face and shannaros the living shit out of his eyeballs.

and and what grounds do you have to say she's "jumping" all the way up to Choji's eyeballs, who, mind you, is as tall as teh Gedo.

Please, Choji in BM literally steps on her seeing that Sakura is by no means a fast character. And Choji is guaranteed stronger than her, and guaranteed more durable [not referring to the regeneration]

 

[Made in Heaven]

That'd work too. Yeaaah, I kinda see what you mean now. Choji probably wouldn't beat Sakura. But it would be a high difficulty win for Sakura since choki can fly (this is assuming no katsuyu btw)

 

[Jimihendrix]

Sakura blitzes and oneshots Choji's fat ass. If he goes BM, she jumps to his face and shannaros the living shit out of his eyeballs.

righhht, just like she "blitzed" madara

exactly how fast is sakura jumping in a linear manner that will prevent Choji from swatting her down like the bug she is?

Choji doesn't get enough recognition around here, and it's sad. Because with killing intent + his BM he merks easily. #mangafax

 

[Made in Heaven]

righhht, just like she "blitzed" madara

exactly how fast is sakura jumping in a linear manner that will prevent Choji from swatting her down like the bug she is?

I have to agree with this, Sakura can only jump in linear way, and shed never get passed choji's knees with her jumps.

 

[TheEvilOne]

righhht, just like she "blitzed" madara

exactly how fast is sakura jumping in a linear manner that will prevent Choji from swatting her down like the bug she is?

I hope you aren't suggesting Choji is as fast as Juubi Madara or his reaction time is comparable to his. Sakura was shown to blitz Sasori's puppets, including the 3rd Kazekage. Choji is slow with 0 speed feats. He isn't going to react to someone as fast as Sakura. Period.

CC, stop trolling/hating already. I know you agree with me.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Yeah you're right but still, I don't think it'd be easy