[Katon] Fire release with Shinta .

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Shinta arrives at the training field, throwing a small ball of fire a short distance from his students resting place. So yeah, sleeping isn't going to help you learn katon... that's what you're after, correct?
Waiting for his student to stand up, Shinta continues to speak.
Tell me about Katon, from your own words. Why do you want to learn it and how to you think you can incorporate it into your skill set?
 

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Kladara got surprised by the small fire , but nevertheless managed to dodge it by standing up and jumping on a near tree . After this , he putted his usual little smirk on his face , which means no harm at all . "Ya , you got it wrong . I was actually meditating , but your lateness made me fell asleep ." He jumped off the tree and drew out his sword ... "Oh wait , the sword isn't needed for Katon" aand he put it back . After hearing Shinta's words , or rather questions , Kladara once again got his calm look and began to speak

"Katon is an element of the basic five . It can be performed by heating your own chakra into your lungs , and releasing the heated chakra in the form of a fire . Usually fire techs can be used to short or mid range , but if your fire tech has strong enough chakra , it can be performed for long range too . Also , by molding your chakra in different forms into your lungs or stomach , the fire technique will be different , in both form and power . You can enhance an weapon by adding Katon chakra . Fire Release is common on Konohagakure , mostly the Uchiha clan . The most well known users of it are Obito Uchiha , Itachi Uchiha , Sasuke Uchiha and Madara Uchiha . The highest level of fire is called Amaterasu , which can be performed by having a Mangekyou Sharingan . Amaterasu's flames are black , and never cease burning . Katon is strong against wind , because wind adds more power to Katon , but is weak to Suiton , since it cools it . It can also be used for conjuction with Raiton . Katon chakra is a component of the following KG: Boil Release, Lava Release and Scorch Release. Blaze Release is the advanced level of it , which can also control Amaterasu flames "

"Why do I want to learn it ? Well I think it's obvious , since I am from the Uchiha clan , and I must master it , in order to honor my Uchiha skills . Currently I'm being trained on Raiton , and since I can use Katon and Raiton , I can perform powerful attacks ."

After all these , Kladara saw his sensei with a serious and confident look , like he was ready to give his life to learn and master Katon !
 

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You will actually need your sword a little later on... when you learns a higher ranked jutsu. Fire jutsu fall into one of three basic categories: Fire Streams, fire balls and Infusion with tools/weapons. There are a few outliers but we will get to them later on.
What do you think will happen in a combination of an equal ranked fire and an equal ranked earth jutsu? What about the collision between a B-rank fire ball and a c-ranked water ball?
 

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Right , I can't wait to use sword with Katon . And yeah , thanks for telling that !

If I'd be hasty , I'd say that Doton wall wins , since Earth > Water , and Water > Fire , but A>B>C logic doesn't work . I think that both jutsus will tank each other , meaning the fire will cease burning , and the Doton wall would be destroyed .

As for you 2nd Question , all matters is how well do you know to control the fire chakra . If you don't mold your chakra good , even a D-rank suiton can beat it , I think . But if both users are experienced and know how to use them , I'd think the suiton will cool the fire's flames a little bit ...
 

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So you're missing key points in my questions... Combination, implying you use a fire jutsu and your team mate uses an earth jutsu... in combination... to create a more powerful attack.

Wind is strong against Lightning which is strong against Earth which is strong against Water which is strong against Fire which is strong against wind.

Fire and Earth are considered Neutral elements, meaning the ranks system does indeed make sense, which is why it is there.

What happens when you super heat earth?

As for the second part... You are wrong on enough levels... d-rank water can't beat b-rank fire if they collide... I asked specifically is a Fire ball of B-rank collided with c-rank water... which means a neutral collision... Think what happens when you dowse a flame with water you see what rise up afterwards?

Have you had any training thus far?
 

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Ah I missed that , sorry .

If you combine both earth and fire , it becomes a mud attack I think ? Heatness melts the earth . You mold the doton chakra and transform it into mud , and enhance it with Fire balls .

Yeah , I get it now .

My only advanced training is Doton . Middle of c ranks .
 

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Mud... is earth and water... though Mud is really just formed from manipulation of your earth chakra as several earth jutsu involve mud or swamps of some sort.

Lava... is super heated earth. ie Fire and Earth. If you add fire to earth it dries out and eventually becomes lava with enough heat.

So hopefully you have reached the jutsu that the Third Hokage used in the chuunin exams against Oro, where the mud dragon spat mud balls and he set them alight using a fire ball. That is an example of an earth/fire combo that creates pseudo lava.

Anyway...

With this jutsu, you will essentially spew out a small, roughly shaped fire ball:

( Katon: Komakai Kaki ) - Fire Release: Small Fire
Rank: D
Type: Offense
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: The user spews a small fireball.

You do this by channelling your fire chakra in your lungs before channeling the chakra out your mouth, using shape and elemental manipulation to create fire from your chakra, and shape it into a ball.

You do the same with the following though you can spit more than one fireball at a time.

(Katon: Ryu Kaen Bakufuu ) - Fire Release: Dragon Flame Blitz
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user inhales and then exhales, shooting small balls of fire at the opponent.

These two jutsu are the most basic forms of fireball jutsu, use these as the base for the higher ranked Fire balls we'll cover later on.

Can you think of some uses for these in battle?
 

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Mud... is earth and water... though Mud is really just formed from manipulation of your earth chakra as several earth jutsu involve mud or swamps of some sort.

Lava... is super heated earth. ie Fire and Earth. If you add fire to earth it dries out and eventually becomes lava with enough heat.

So hopefully you have reached the jutsu that the Third Hokage used in the chuunin exams against Oro, where the mud dragon spat mud balls and he set them alight using a fire ball. That is an example of an earth/fire combo that creates pseudo lava.
Yes I have learnt that jutsu , and I knew that the mud shots can be enhanced with fire balls .

Anyway...

With this jutsu, you will essentially spew out a small, roughly shaped fire ball:

( Katon: Komakai Kaki ) - Fire Release: Small Fire
Rank: D
Type: Offense
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: The user spews a small fireball.

You do this by channelling your fire chakra in your lungs before channeling the chakra out your mouth, using shape and elemental manipulation to create fire from your chakra, and shape it into a ball.

You do the same with the following though you can spit more than one fireball at a time.

(Katon: Ryu Kaen Bakufuu ) - Fire Release: Dragon Flame Blitz
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user inhales and then exhales, shooting small balls of fire at the opponent.

These two jutsu are the most basic forms of fireball jutsu, use these as the base for the higher ranked Fire balls we'll cover later on.

Can you think of some uses for these in battle?
Now , for the first one .

"Kladara firstly gathered chakra and channelled it into his lungs . By heating it a little , he then channelled it to his mouth , and by using shape and elemental manipulation , he released the gathered chakra in the form of a small fireball that is shooted to the opponent ."

The second one .

"After doing the first jutsu , Kladara again did the same process as he did with the first one . The only difference is that he used/heated more chakra to create several fire balls ."





For using them in battle , I pretty much think the best combo is to perform the stone spike jutsu and make the opponent lose his balance . Doing that you immediatly perform the process of doing these jutsus and fire fireballs to the unbalanced opponent , having a decent chance of hitting him .
 

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Don't forget, simple jutsu such as these don't need to be combo's with other elemental jutsu, they are quite easily utilised in close range combat; whether it be actual freeform or using taijutsu/kenjutsu attacks.

Now, that should covere the fireball section of your basic, basic training. For the remaining, I leave it up to my trial senpai who will introduce herself when she has time and I send the PM to her... It's Akasha by the way and she can only have one student... thought I'd include that before you or anyone else gets ideas O__O'
 

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*Arrives on training grounds*

Alright,so I'll be taking over this training from Shinta as a trail sempai of his. Once you reply to this I shall continue with training if that is fine with you. If you have any questions please ask them. >_O
 

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No questions . It's always better training with you than with that Shinta . >_<

*kicks Shinta out this training field*
Don't you dare insult my sensei >_>

Alright so for the next technique you'll need to use small ninja tools which are shurikens. I'll need you to take few shurikens from your pouch and throw them at your intended target. Whilst doing so I want you to heat up chakra within your lungs before exhaling it as to enflame the shurikens. By doing so you will be able to make shurikens burn with fire as they are going towards your target.

(Katon: Kaen Shuriken Ranbu ) - Fire Release: Blazing Shuriken Dance
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will throw several shuriken infused with fire at the enemy and then, through a mental command, ignites them to cause extra damage.

What can you tell me when it comes to advantages and disadvantages of this technique?
 
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At least I'm complimenting you xD




Taking three shurikens from his ninja pouch , Kladara then threw them in the direction of his target . Doing so , he quickly channelled chakra onto his lungs , heated it and when he fired three small fireballs , which they would cover each shuriken . Now the shuriekns were enhanced with flames and thus doing more damage .

Advantages or Disadvantages .

The advantage of this technique is that it's very simple to use , as all you need is to throw shurikens and lanuch small fireballs . Low chakra cost and the mid range is also a good advantage . The disadvantage is that it's sometimes simple to dodge , by either rising a doton pillar to protect you , or simply use Water jutsu to cool down the flames and then counter the shurikens with other shurikens .
 

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At least I'm complimenting you xD




Taking three shurikens from his ninja pouch , Kladara then threw them in the direction of his target . Doing so , he quickly channelled chakra onto his lungs , heated it and when he fired three small fireballs , which they would cover each shuriken . Now the shuriekns were enhanced with flames and thus doing more damage .

Advantages or Disadvantages .

The advantage of this technique is that it's very simple to use , as all you need is to throw shurikens and lanuch small fireballs . Low chakra cost and the mid range is also a good advantage . The disadvantage is that it's sometimes simple to dodge , by either rising a doton pillar to protect you , or simply use Water jutsu to cool down the flames and then counter the shurikens with other shurikens .
Alright..

The next technique @_@ The hand seals... Damn... So much hand seals for such a basic technique so to speak.

What I need you to do tho is to firstly gather katon (heated) chakra within your lungs whilst performing the required sequence of hand seals. Snake which is followed by Ram, then Monkey which is followed by Tiger. As you perform the hand seals you'll make an inhale before making an exhale as to release the chakra. As you are releasing the chakra you'll use nature manipulation as to create a flammable gas.

( Katon: Kasumi Enbu no Jutsu ) - Fire Release: Mist Blaze Dance Technique
Rank: D
Type: Offense/Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: After performing the necessary hand seals Snake → Ram → Monkey → Tiger, the user is able to create and blow a flammable gas from their lungs. Once it comes in contact with fire or sparks, the gas ignites into a large fireball.

What is characteristic when it comes to this technique? And in which way can you get most out of this technique?

One thing that is must when it comes to my training is to note nature as well as shape manipulation. What can you tell me about nature manipulation and what can you tell me about shape manipulation?
 

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While gathering Katon chakra into his lungs , Kladara was weaving through handseals which are Ram > Monkey > Tiger . Successfully doing this , he inhaled a little and then exhaled , releasing the gathered chakra . Using nature manipulation , he created a flammable gas , lanuched to the target .

The characteristic of this tech is that once it comes to contact with a fire or spark , the gas turns into a big fireball . You can also throw the shurikens and use the previous jutsu I learned I think . Also to avoid the gas , I might be wrong but I've always thought that you need to use any Wind jutsu . Am I right ?

Shape manipulation is an advanced form of chakra control . It allows the user to change form of chakra , movement etc. which results making different jutsus , in aspect of size , range etc.

Nature manipulation is also an advanced form of chakra control . It allows the user to mold the chakra in different forms , making different jutsus . This is mostly used to find out what affinity someone has .
 

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Let me note one thing this jutsu is usable only when it comes in contact with fire which means unless it doesn't it would just be left as a flammable gas.

The characteristic of this tech is that once it comes to contact with a fire or spark , the gas turns into a big fireball . You can also throw the shurikens and use the previous jutsu I learned I think . Also to avoid the gas , I might be wrong but I've always thought that you need to use any Wind jutsu . Am I right ?
You can take a match and just turn the flammable gas without even using a jutsu for that.
No you don't need to use wind jutsu. Wind jutsu will disperse the gas and of course that is one way of countering. But you can even use water? Water will just make gas heavier and thus make it unusable.

Shape manipulation is an advanced form of chakra control . It allows the user to change form of chakra , movement etc. which results making different jutsus , in aspect of size , range etc.
Nature manipulation is also an advanced form of chakra control . It allows the user to mold the chakra in different forms , making different jutsus . This is mostly used to find out what affinity someone has .
Alright so both Shape and Nature manipulation are types of molding chakra as to give chakra specific characteristics. Nature manipulation refers to type of molding chakra in which you give chakra a desired set of characteristics or properties. Whereas Shape manipulation refers to type of molding chakra in which you give chakra desired form.

Onto the next technique:

So for this jutsu I'll need you to once again gather heated chakra within your lungs before making an exhale as to release the said chakra. Whilst releasing this chakra you'll use nature manipulation as well as shape manipulation as to form a fire stream.

What I wrote you to do is one way of using this technique. You can also use it as to release a fire ball from your month or by focusing your chakra onto your lets say fists release it from there by movement.

( Katon no Jutsu ) - Fire Release Technique
Rank: D
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: 20
Description: The user will release a small but powerful flame of fire at their opponent from either their limbs (through movement) or exhaling it. It can produce fire balls or fire streams or simply aid in taijutsu.

Now what I have to ask you is what is difference between a projectile and a stream? And what are characteristics of each?
 

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Thanks for the info .

Once again heating his chakra onto his lungs , Kladara channelled his chakra onto his mouth and when releasing , he used Nature/Shape manipulation and turned it into a fireball . Another way is to release this chakra via limbs/fist , btu requires movement .

Hmm , I'm not sure about this ... >_> Projectiles are when you lanuch several fire balls (As we are in a Katon training) at your oppoennt , while the stream is when you release the gathered chakra in a way that you add more chakra to it to become more durable I think ? As it still is connected to your chakra , while the projectiles might be small fireballs , and they just go straight to your opponent . Though the fire stream has more chance of hitting the oppoenent , especially when it is large .

(sorry for small details , i will try and add more later on .)


@Shinta , so you stalk here too ... -__-
 

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Once again heating his chakra onto his lungs , Kladara channelled his chakra onto his mouth and when releasing , he used Nature/Shape manipulation and turned it into a fireball . Another way is to release this chakra via limbs/fist , btu requires movement .
I asked you for stream but fine,this technique can be used in few ways anyways.

Hmm , I'm not sure about this ... >_> Projectiles are when you lanuch several fire balls (As we are in a Katon training) at your oppoennt , while the stream is when you release the gathered chakra in a way that you add more chakra to it to become more durable I think ? As it still is connected to your chakra , while the projectiles might be small fireballs , and they just go straight to your opponent . Though the fire stream has more chance of hitting the oppoenent , especially when it is large .
Anyhow there is quite a difference between projectiles and streams.

Projectiles

Projectiles are techniques that are released from your body,from your mouth,your feet,your fists and so on. Projectiles are blasted off/launched from your body towards the intended target. When it comes to projectiles you gather and release a defined amount of chakra. What is characteristic when it comes to projectiles is that once they leave your body they are no longer tied to your chakra which means that once you release them you can send another technique to follow them (Let's say you send a fire ball towards your opponent and as soon as you release that fire ball from your mouth you send a wind tornado as to make a fire tornado which makes more damage as well as effects bigger area). But not being tied to your own charka comes with an disadvantage. Direction in which they are moving can not be changed unless the technique you use says otherwise. That disadvantage with which they come makes it easier in a way for opponent to counter them. There is one more characteristic attribute to projectiles and that is sending few of them at the intended target. But the bigger the number of projectiles there is the smaller their power as well as size are. But sending more projectiles can make countering of a technique harder. You can send one towards your target's legs and one towards his head. He will have to use a technique that effects a bigger area as to defend from yours.

1 B ranked projectiles is equal to 2 C ranks which is equal to 4 D ranked.​

Streams

So streams are completely different from projectiles. Unlike projectiles they are constantly released from ones body which means a person has to constantly fuel his stream with chakra as to keep it active. Because streams are constantly tied to ones chakra they make it unable for one to perform another technique whilst he or she is streaming it unless of course they have a clone or an ally or anything that can perform a technique. But because they are tided to ones chakra they are let's say more controllable. Person can decide when he or she is gonna stop streaming his technique and in that way stop it. Person can also change direction in which he is releasing the stream. Unlike projectiles when it comes to creation of streams there is less shape manipulation involved and thus they usually cover larger areas.​

That is a brief explanation of both,once you read this and tell me if there are any questions we may proceed onto C ranks.
 
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