[VS] Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo vs. Hashirama's Shinsuusenju

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Are we reading the same manga? Sasuke's PS is visible between top unsliced CT and the bottom sliced CT, right next to the rock [ ]. Yet he sliced up something hundreds if not thousands of times his size with mere shockwaves, unless the PS sword can extend that far, which I doubt. This alone implies that the shockwaves will penetrate through the SS and absolutely demolish it after a few slices.
Eh, still not seeing it, but it's probably because I've had a long day at college. I'll take your word for it though.
 

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This has gotten sad. People are obviously not considering the size inconsistency in the manga. Those CT sizes are made to look OP, but Kish didn't really consider their size in relation to other larger objects drawn in the series. Madara's CT are just a "bit" larger than Nagato's which seemed to hover over the entire leaf village. These current drawings don't seem to display the same massive size.

A piece of these planetary devastations are>=SS in size.

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Piece of planetary devastation compared to mountains.

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A mere piece of the things Sasuke bisects>= SS in size and people are saying that SS can take this.
 

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SS would beat beat the the dog shit ouuta sasuke's PS susanoo, because last time SS had a encounter with a susanoo it was being worn like armor by kurama and SS literally pounded the susanoo off till their was not a trace of susanoo left, this time since susanoo ain't attached to anything so if SS beats on PS this time around their's gonna be nothing but air left, and come to think of it hashirama's wood golem was able to stalemate madara's PS in strength(of course while hashirama was in sage mode) and damn near stood eye to eye with it.

Now in this image that same wood golem was on top of the head of hashirama's SS and this was the result of the onslaught

and the SS took a barrage of tailed beat bombs with the damn swords in them and was still not only standing but still fighting their's no way in hell sasuke's PS is beating that.
 
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This has gotten sad. People are obviously not considering the size inconsistency in the manga. Those CT sizes are made to look OP, but Kish didn't really consider their size in relation to other larger objects drawn in the series. Madara's CT are just a "bit" larger than Nagato's which seemed to hover over the entire leaf village. These current drawings don't seem to display the same massive size.
I agree. Naruto statement referred to the meteorites which Madara dropped at the beginning of his reincarnation, when he said that they are bigger and more. If you compare the size of those meteorites with the surroundings correctly, each of them have only the size of a few mountains. After several of them were crushed, the amount of rubble covered huge mountain ranges.

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Madara's PS can easily do the same. Madara's Susanoo crushed the meteor into pieces and created a shock wave which traveled across the whole landscape and sliced through a mountain range. It has the same power as Sasuke's Susanoo. If Madara's Susanoo jumped towards the meteorites and released the power of its sword right before the material, it would have the same effect. Sasuke's PS used two swords and delivered several slashes to the meteorites. If Madara's PS did that, it would have had the same effect. So stop the hype about Sasuke's PS.


Correct me if am wrong but wasn't hashi mokujin stalemating madaras Ps? It was clearly fighting on par with the Ps each time we saw panels of them. Now consider sasuke easily cutting through rocks with weigh much more than that mokujin, replace madaras ps in that situation with Sasukes own and am pretty sure sasuke would have obliterated the mokkujin taking into account the Dc of his ps slashes he displayed. So in that sense am tempted to say sasuke PS is superior.
One has nothing to do with the other. The Mokujin wasn't fighting on pair with the PS. It stalemated it for a certain time. It caught the PS arm so latter couldn't attack. It could have done the same with Sasuke's PS. Sasuke's PS isn't stronger for the only reason it jumped up and attacked a rock. It has no more power. It has the same size and swords. Madara's sword was caught by Mokuton arms earlier [ ] but Madara then used a second sword to cut all the arms together with a mountain range. Just look at this insane power. It cuts all Mokuton arms, travels through the landscape and slices mountain ranges. It would have done the same with the Mokujin. But Madara was just holding Hashirama back and enjoying the confrontation with him.

Forget the idea of Sasuke's PS being levels above Madara's PS, they are about the same level. Power is not anything.
It can't just crush the Shinsuusenju. Madara would've done the same, seeing how he slices mountain ranges. If Sasuke's PS will try to come near the Shinsuusenju, it will utilize its thousand hands simultaneously to deliver thousands of blows to it from all directions, instantly. You can't compare that to a rock that only waits to be cut down.

If you look at the size comparison of Shinsuusenju and PS-Kyuubi, don't forget that the PS coated Kyuubi's body but is in fact twice as big as Kyuubi.

But power is not the only factor as I said, or else Madara's PS would have easily cut down the Shinsuusenju.
 

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SS would beat beat the the dog shit ouuta sasuke's PS susanoo, because last time SS had a encounter with a susanoo it was being worn like armor by kurama and SS literally pounded the susanoo off till their was not a trace of susanoo left, this time since susanoo ain't attached to anything so if SS beats on PS this time around their's gonna be nothing but air left, and come to think of it hashirama's wood golem was able to stalemate madara's PS in strength(of course while hashirama was in sage mode) and damn near stood eye to eye with it.

Sasuke's current PS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>EMS Madara's. This should be freaking obvious!
 

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NO. It's the SAME. Any Susanoo has characteristics which are unique but in the end they are the same. Madara's PS has the same size the same form and the same swords. The same huge construct of Chakra..
PS is far bigger and stronger than legged Susano'o or did you just choose to forget the Five Kage fight?

Legged Susano'o was encapsulated and therefore smaller than the Jinton used here, and yet, unstabilized PS towered over it:

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I agree. Naruto statement referred to the meteorites which Madara dropped at the beginning of his reincarnation, when he said that they are bigger and more. If you compare the size of those meteorites with the surroundings correctly, each of them have only the size of a few mountains. After several of them were crushed, the amount of rubble covered huge mountain ranges.

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Madara's PS can easily do the same. Madara's Susanoo crushed the meteor into pieces and created a shock wave which traveled across the whole landscape and sliced through a mountain range. It has the same power as Sasuke's Susanoo. If Madara's Susanoo jumped towards the meteorites and released the power of its sword right before the material, it would have the same effect. Sasuke's PS used two swords and delivered several slashes to the meteorites. If Madara's PS did that, it would have had the same effect. So stop the hype about Sasuke's PS.



One has nothing to do with the other. The Mokujin wasn't fighting on pair with the PS. It stalemated it for a certain time. It caught the PS arm so latter couldn't attack. It could have done the same with Sasuke's PS. Sasuke's PS isn't stronger for the only reason it jumped up and attacked a rock. It has no more power. It has the same size and swords. Madara's sword was caught by Mokuton arms earlier [ ] but Madara then used a second sword to cut all the arms together with a mountain range. Just look at this insane power. It cuts all Mokuton arms, travels through the landscape and slices mountain ranges. It would have done the same with the Mokujin. But Madara was just holding Hashirama back and enjoying the confrontation with him.

Forget the idea of Sasuke's PS being levels above Madara's PS, they are about the same level. Power is not anything.
It can't just crush the Shinsuusenju. Madara would've done the same, seeing how he slices mountain ranges. If Sasuke's PS will try to come near the Shinsuusenju, it will utilize its thousand hands simultaneously to deliver thousands of blows to it from all directions, instantly. You can't compare that to a rock that only waits to be cut down.

If you look at the size comparison of Shinsuusenju and PS-Kyuubi, don't forget that the PS coated Kyuubi's body but is in fact twice as big as Kyuubi.

But power is not the only factor as I said, or else Madara's PS would have easily cut down the Shinsuusenju.
God Susano still slices it apart like it did with the massive CT's. Those aren't meteors either, they can only be referred to as CT's larger than meteors or regular CT's from Nagato. God Susano still slices it apart like it did with the massive CT's.
 

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Some of you seriously lack common sense. That's close to disgrace. Madara's PS has the same size and appearance as Sasuke's, apart from the face. Yet they claim that Madara's PS lacks mobility. No fucking logic here. Madara's PS is the same construct of Chakra as Sasuke's, a complete body Susanoo with legs.
 

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God Susano still slices it apart like it did with the massive CT's. Those aren't meteors either, they can only be referred to as CT's larger than meteors or regular CT's from Nagato. God Susano still slices it apart like it did with the massive CT's.
No. Madara formed it with Chibaku Tensei and then dropped them like meteorites, hence Naruto referred to the meteorites. My scan clearly shows the size comparison of these CT, mountains and Shinjuu. So stop it.
 

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Some of you seriously lack common sense. That's close to disgrace. Madara's PS has the same size and appearance as Sasuke's, apart from the face. Yet they claim that Madara's PS lacks mobility. No fucking logic here. Madara's PS is the same construct of Chakra as Sasuke's, a complete body Susanoo with legs.
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Sasuke is visible between the sliced up CT and the unsliced CT on top of the panel. Yet he is terrifyingly small, while he was smurfing the regular meteors Madara was bringing down before with an unstabilised PS. Stabilising PS would make it bigger, yet it is still midget like in front of the massive CT's, which he sliced up without much difficulty. Are you saying the size difference between the stabilised PS and the SS are that big? If not, then you surely don't believe the SS has durability feats beyond the CT's/Mountains. A few swipes of the sword and the SS is lacking any hands, and given Sasuke's PS kenjutsu feats displayed in this scan, it is of little difficulty.

No. Madara formed it with Chibaku Tensei and then dropped them like meteorites, hence Naruto referred to the meteorites. My scan clearly shows the size comparison of these CT, mountains and Shinjuu. So stop it.
Yes, but it is incorrect terminology since meteors are only referred to as meteors when coming from space. I don't see any special calculations/scaling. Scaling doesn't work in the manga either, or do you think he draws pixel by pixel?
 
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As I said, the stabilized PS has twice the size of 100% Kyuubi. The PS isn't as large as the SS with its thousand arms, but has at least the size of SS body. But my point was that Madara's PS has the same offensive power like Sasuke's. People are too confused. One of these meteorites has the size of a few mountains at most. Madara's PS easily slices through that as well.
 

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While i believe sasuke's susanoo wins. The size of those CTs are being highly overated,the shards are mountain range sized?,the CTs are several mountain range big?really? and even if they are bigger than the budha,the budha is far more durable than rocks,size dosent equate durability.

The budha isnt just gonna look at the susanoo cut it either,it will counterattack with its arms too.

Sasuke's susanoo wins but with mid diff
 

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Sasuke's PS = Madara's PS, as my post above established..

There is no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lmao

And my post clearly established that you're dead wrong, and that SS is a bug compared to the full meteors. Also, funny that you're using that scaling from that image, so let me throw it back at you, from that perspective, it also equals the holy tree stump, which is clearly bigger than mountains. Manga already showed us just how big it is compared to mountains when it made contact with the ground meaning no perspective problems, this is how big they are.

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How hard is it for you people to accept that Naruto and Sasuke are leagues above Hashirama?! Heck, it's a manga fact!


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And my post clearly established that you're dead wrong, and that SS is a bug compared to the full meteors. Also, funny that you're using that scaling from that image, so let me throw it back at you, from that perspective, it also equals the holy tree stump, which is clearly bigger than mountains. Manga already showed us just how big it is compared to mountains when it made contact with the ground meaning no perspective problems, this is how big they are.

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How hard is it for you people to accept that Naruto and Sasuke are leagues above Hashirama?! Heck, it's a manga fact!


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No! You will never win against Da Best Ever! Ever!



Eva!

OT: Sasuke destroys him with no difficulty honestly.
 

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As I said, the stabilized PS has twice the size of 100% Kyuubi. The PS isn't as large as the SS with its thousand arms, but has at least the size of SS body. But my point was that Madara's PS has the same offensive power like Sasuke's. People are too confused. One of these meteorites has the size of a few mountains at most. Madara's PS easily slices through that as well.
I disagree yet again.
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Notice the mountains in front of the CT's FRAGMENTS falling piece by piece. It is clearly incomparable, your scans scaling is already disproven by having looked at the bottom of the same page alone. PS is the small red line, yet it cut something so massive. SS is smaller than the CT and gets done the same way.

Shinju is being underrated here. Turtle island [ ] Shinju's hirudora on turtle island [ ]. Shinju massive size without a comparison [ ]. Stop comparing it to a mountain, it's ludicrous. Even Nagato's CT is massive [ ], and it is smaller than Madara's CT as confirmed by Naruto himself.
 
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