Marijuana or Alcohol(millions dead from drug)

[a banned cartoon]

Weed, however I would like more knowledge on how it works/consequences of using weed. Although alcohol being illegal would be near impossible since people drink so much.

I don't think alcohol should be illegal, I'm just saying hypothetically speeding if both were illegal and the government was about to legalize one of the and we had to vote for which one. Which would you vote for. Marijuana has put cancer patients cancer in remission before when no other medicine had worked, not even chemo. Crazy huh.

 

[a banned cartoon]

Truth but what about big known states like CALI, NY, FLORIDA, ATL I wonder if these states come close to that 2 million, it will be over price in these states and I live in NY I know the price for weed will be some bulls**t

Marijuana hasn't been fully legalized I those states on the same level it has in Colorado. In Colorado you no longer need a medical license, it's now legalized on a recreational level. If California and other states would legalize it on this level they'd see an increase in their taxes as well.

 

[Da Best Ever]

True Weed is tainted by drug lords but look at what happened when they Banned alcohol in 1900(In America) Gangsters and Mobster sold it and maid millions. If we legalize weed it would honestly be less of a problem. Personally i think instead of banning drugs we should focus on fixing the problems in Addicts lives that made them turn to drugs and helping them get better

What your saying is impossible to do simply because everyone has problems and not only problems by reoccurring problems, problems that lead to depression and just general sadness in one's life. Trying to solve everyone's problems are impossible. The sadness in one's life might get them to use that drug for the first time but reoccurring problems make that person continue to use drugs and again it is impossible to rid everyone of their problems. The few people that were once addicts are the few that can be saved and no matter how hard you try that amount of saves will be relatively the same.

 

[Forest]

if you need either one of them to be in your life daily then you got issues. if you are not stupid and not abusing weed you can EASILY get away with smoking and enjoying it in your own privacy... Legalizing it right away would be too much, the price would SKYROCKET, and the quality through mass production would go way down and degrade. too many idiots would have easy access 2 it. It should be decriminalized asap Though, people should not be doing time for possession.

 

[A e r o]

I don't think alcohol should be illegal, I'm just saying hypothetically speeding if both were illegal and the government was about to legalize one of the and we had to vote for which one. Which would you vote for. Marijuana has put cancer patients cancer in remission before when no other medicine had worked, not even chemo. Crazy huh.

Yea I agree, but even hypothetically speaking, if alcohol was illegal people would still find a way to drink. Prohibition was a scary time imo.

 

[a banned cartoon]

Just 2,000,000, that's it. Do you know how much major drug dealers make off of weed alone in one year, easily over 2,000,000 so that argument still stands. I do believe once weed is legalized as a whole by the federal government it will make a lot of drug dealers go out of business from selling weed eventually.

you need to take into account that that was last years numbers when it had only been legalized for a couple of months.

 

[Element Master]

What your saying is impossible to do simply because everyone has problems and not only problems by reoccurring problems, problems that lead to depression and just general sadness in one's life. Trying to solve everyone's problems are impossible. The sadness in one's life might get them to use that drug for the first time but reoccurring problems make that person continue to use drugs and again it is impossible to rid everyone of their problems. The few people that were once addicts are the few that can be saved and no matter how hard you try that amount of saves will be relatively the same.

True, not everyone can be saved and not everyone should be saved

 

[Da Best Ever]

I don't think alcohol should be illegal, I'm just saying hypothetically speeding if both were illegal and the government was about to legalize one of the and we had to vote for which one. Which would you vote for. Marijuana has put cancer patients cancer in remission before when no other medicine had worked, not even chemo. Crazy huh.

It doesn't matter about the soothing effects it has, the problem is the " **** it " mentality, nobody wants to do anything after they smoke and its repetitive and addictive as any drug. I have an uncle that needs to smoke weed before he does anything, he can't eat without smoking weed, he can't go to sleep at night without smoking weed and he has been smoking since was 14 and he is now 30 and it is the main reason he cannot accomplish shit. Weed smokers are the biggest dreamers, that's all they do while smoking is think of things but as soon as your off that high you don't go forth with the task. America has a lack of workers and has in abundance lazy people mainly weed smokers.

 

[a banned cartoon]

What your saying is impossible to do simply because everyone has problems and not only problems by reoccurring problems, problems that lead to depression and just general sadness in one's life. Trying to solve everyone's problems are impossible. The sadness in one's life might get them to use that drug for the first time but reoccurring problems make that person continue to use drugs and again it is impossible to rid everyone of their problems. The few people that were once addicts are the few that can be saved and no matter how hard you try that amount of saves will be relatively the same.

A drug addict can only stop using if they want to. You can't force them to. They have to be ready to quit. This is coming from personal experience who goes to NA meetings, and very addict will tell you this exact same thing.

 

[Fuzzy Panda]

Definitely alcohol. It is far worse for the body system and there is clear scientific proof of its negative consequences. It also causes drunk driving and stuff which can lead to more deaths. If it were introduced now, it would 100% be illegalized (if that's a word haha), however due to culture for hundreds of years, it's hard to make it illegal.

Although I don't use marijuana, many studies have shown it to be useful medically however researchers don't want to go into further research because of the negative stigma it has. Legalizing it could also produce more gov revenue. The only issue I find with marijuana, is smoking it which can lead to cancer. Also it can lead to harder drugs and it is addictive (which most people don't know).

 

[Da Best Ever]

you need to take into account that that was last years numbers when it had only been legalized for a couple of months.

To even suggest that 1 state can make more money than a drug lord at selling drugs is blasphemy. One shipment of marijuana or any drug makes millions and there are so many tons of drugs going in the U.S. its ridiculous. Even American drugs dealers make millions while the bigger drug dealers from other countries make even more money. The fact that the state is selling drugs limits the amount of buyers they will have simply because people don't trust that shit and want to get it the same way they have been getting it for years tax free.

 

[Element Master]

Definitely alcohol. It is far worse for the body system and there is clear scientific proof of its negative consequences. It also causes drunk driving and stuff which can lead to more deaths. If it were introduced now, it would 100% be illegalized (if that's a word haha), however due to culture for hundreds of years, it's hard to make it illegal.

Although I don't use marijuana, many studies have shown it to be useful medically however researchers don't want to go into further research because of the negative stigma it has. Legalizing it could also produce more gov revenue. The only issue I find with marijuana, is smoking it which can lead to cancer. Also it can lead to harder drugs and it is addictive (which most people don't know).

I don't think Marijuana is a gate way drug because if someone gets hooked on marijuana and abuses it they would have done the same on other drugs, its just that marijuana is the easiest to get. Smoking does lead to Cancer but marijuana doesn't have as many chemical as cigarettes and their are other ways to use it besides smoking it

 

[a banned cartoon]

if you need either one of them to be in your life daily then you got issues. if you are not stupid and not abusing weed you can EASILY get away with smoking and enjoying it in your own privacy... Legalizing it right away would be too much, the price would SKYROCKET, and the quality through mass production would go way down and degrade. too many idiots would have easy access 2 it. It should be decriminalized asap Though, people should not be doing time for possession.

What about cancer patients. There has been plenty of cancer patient who have tried ever medicine out there even chemo, and not only til they used marijuana their cancer went into remission. It's a proven fact that THC stunts a tumors growth, and even has the possibility to shrink it. Here's a video about a little girl who's parent tried every medical treatment out there, and finally decided to use marijuana as a lat resort. Six days after using marijuana her cancer went into remission after years of battling it. Here's a link to the video. Watch it so you can be informed and learn something, and not stay ignorant to the medical benefits. Do terms say she the healthiest child on chemo.

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[a banned cartoon]

I don't think Marijuana is a gate way drug because if someone gets hooked on marijuana and abuses it they would have done the same on other drugs, its just that marijuana is the easiest to get. Smoking does lead to Cancer but marijuana doesn't have as many chemical as cigarettes and their are other ways to use it besides smoking it

I have to disagree with that from first hand experience. A lot of my friends started with marijuana, and said to themselves well everyone said this was bad, but look it not, so than the other things people say are bad can't be that bad, but it all depends on the individual as well. It was a gateway drug for me.

 

[a banned cartoon]

However correct you may be in pointing out the effects of drinking alcohol, the image of marijuana is far worse than that of alcohol. Alcohol can be used on any occasion and is accepted in all circles. You can drink alcohol at weddings, baby showers, any type of party and so on. The image of marijuana is people making the " exchange " money from hand, weed to hand. That image of selling on the streets and major criminals and drug lords selling it made marijuana's acceptability low and makes it somewhat frowned upon in some circles. However, now the demand for marijuana is ridiculously high, so it is forcing the government to legalize it in the future because it is virtually impossible to stop.

A lot of drug lords like Pablo Escobar, Amado Fuentes and the Ochoa Brothers stopped selling weed in the 70's and 80's because Americans figured out how to grow it themselves. But during the time they were selling weed they were also selling cocain and those drug lords were big time murderers as well so again the image of marijuana is very tainted just from being sold on the streets. I myself do not smoke anything or drank alcohol or liquor but almost everyone in my family and a lot of people in general I know partake in such a thing, I have nothing against weed but I don't do it mainly because a lot of weed smokers get that " **** it " mentality after smoking and decide not to handle their business and because a lot of people started smoking just to fit in and because I have a lot of things to accomplish in life and because I am not a follower I just don't do it.

Since marijuana has been legalized recreationally in Colorado, homicide rate have gone down by 66% in 2013, and are only getting better.

 

[Element Master]

I have to disagree with that from first hand experience. A lot of my friends started with marijuana, and said to themselves well everyone said this was bad, but look it not, so than the other things people say are bad can't be that bad, but it all depends on the individual as well. It was a gateway drug for me.

This, everyone reacts marijuana differently, it's not a magic Gate into Drug land for everyone (idk how i react i haven't done it)

 

[Poptart]

This year 3.3million people have died from alcohol abuse in 2012 alone.

holy batman.

 

[Element Master]

Since marijuana has been legalized recreationally in Colorado, homicide rate have gone down by 66% in 2013, and are only getting better.

i doubt their was that manly homicides in colorado to begin with though, it's a pretty nice place

 

[a banned cartoon]

To even suggest that 1 state can make more money than a drug lord at selling drugs is blasphemy. One shipment of marijuana or any drug makes millions and there are so many tons of drugs going in the U.S. its ridiculous. Even American drugs dealers make millions while the bigger drug dealers from other countries make even more money. The fact that the state is selling drugs limits the amount of buyers they will have simply because people don't trust that shit and want to get it the same way they have been getting it for years tax free.

But if marihuana was legalized recreationally everywhere, drug lords would loose over 50% of there sales. Which also means lees murders. Even if they only lost 1% of sales and it still decreased the murder rate that a great thing.

 

[Element Master]

This year 3.3million people have died from alcohol abuse in 2012 alone.

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XD this year and 2012 are different years